I'm not sure if honey would be considered "sugar", but that link I gave you might tell you.

I make the kids use Equal when they have it . . . but I'm a mean mom.

Cherie

So oral yeast is actually more common than I was thinking?

The doctor asked if I had been on an antibiotic recently, which I have not.

You speak of imbalances... maybe my major quitting smoking imbalance caused this? Sigh.

No, I don't think oral thrush is that common for people with a good immune system. "Lady" yeast infections are quite common, from using antibiotics. Eating a diet with plain yogurt is good for that, but we don't do much dairy in this house.

I was introduced to thrush when my eldest was a baby. She had a lot of allergies, sinus and ear infections . . . so lots of antibiotics. I was not aware that antibiotics could cause ORAL thrush, but I suppose that makes sense because it can cause "lady" yeast infections.

I am a smoker, and have tried to quit several times. I know that smoking is RECOMMENDED for those who have Ulcerative Colitis, which I have. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.

Cherie

Oddly, I've been on a lot of antibiotics the last couple years, and I have never had a lady yeast infection that I've been aware of.

When I was much younger I did however!

Are those of us with MS living with "good" immune systems though?

I also get canker sores sometimes Laura. I take 500mg of lysine daily and it keeps them in check. Acidic foods do tend to aggravate them in me.

Don't worry about the imbalance from quitting, it will even itself out in time as your body adjusts to its healthier state.

Well I see oral thrush and I worry about what other crap could be going on in my body. I'm already willing to bet my neuro is going to go into further testing for Lupus now knowing my mother has it apparently.

I did the candida cleanse diet actually in January 08/Feb 08... just prior to my MS diagnosis.

Now eating a low fat diet seems like cake compared to the candida diet. Goodness.

I have oil of oregano here actually in capsules from before when I was doing that cleanse... but I recall the nutritionist telling me that you don't touch the oil of oregano until you've done the diet for 2 weeks, or you can actually end up very sick from killing off the bad yeast.

I think that diet is over-kill, Laura . . . but just take from it what you find helpful, i.e. try the easy stuff, then see how it pans out for you.

Cherie

"Simple Home Candida Test:

Try this simple test to see if you have candida. First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth, get a clear glass. Fill with water and work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour. If you have a candida yeast infection, you will see strings (like legs) traveling down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or "cloudy" saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will seem to be suspended in the water.

If there are no strings and the saliva is still floating after at least one hour, you are probably candida yeast free.

If you have a bunch of threads or cloudiness, and especially if it develops quickly, you can be pretty darn sure you have a serious case of candida infecting you. A few threads or light cloudiness indicate not as serious an infestation.

NOTICE--Unfortunately you can still have candida yeast, the spit test is not 100%. The best way to test for candida yeast is find a doc who has a Bradford Variable Projection Microscope and have a live blood analysis done or get a stool test done. Many chiropractors use the Bradford High Resolution Microscope."

http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?...lay&thread=303

I don't know if smoking affects it in any way, except that I know that the burning is more intense when dragging on a cigarette, when the cause of the burning is thrush.

Cherie

Yeah, I did that spit test in the past, and that's why I did the diet because it came back 'positive' (so to speak) for yeast overgrowth. Which honestly didn't surprise me at the time, considering how poorly I ate.

Well fun. Apparently tricyclic antidepressants can also result in oral yeast. I guess due to the drying effect of them on the mouth. I certainly suffered through dry mouth from Amitriptyline for entirely too long, that is for sure. UGH.

It makes sense... I'm eating a higher carb diet as well (eating low fat, but definitely a lot of carbs in the diet) so I guess a combination of a lot of things...

It's going to be a tough next few days trying to deal with/sleep with this pain. It's so unpleasant it's not funny.