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02-26-2013, 09:38 AM | #21 | ||
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i'm an atheist. i think copernicus, galileo, darwin were "scientists". they used scientific logic to go against religious dogma. it's amazing how if you hired someone to fix your car you'd want to know if they knew how to fix your car but if they said they could cure your parkinson's with no real proof you'd believe them. i do believe faith can heal some people, best of luck. and for some reason, i'm not impressed by what a chiropractor says, even with a "DR." in front of his name who makes a living tauting what is in my opinion psycho-babbLe. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Thelma (02-26-2013) |
02-26-2013, 10:40 AM | #22 | ||
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To follow your own logic here Soccertese, in comparing car mechanics to healers, I don't know one neurologist who has healed anyone of pd, yet many people have overweening, almost religious-like faith in them to actually come up with a cure.
Dr Joe Dispenza has much involvement in neuroscience and has experience in taking charge of his own healing after breaking his back in three places after a devastating accident. Here's some of dr joe's 'psychobabble' http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=0XcCo...CoDlVf-s&gl=GB. Very useful in anger management. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | MeAndPD (02-26-2013) |
02-26-2013, 11:31 AM | #23 | ||
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proof ain't that hard to come by. |
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02-26-2013, 11:56 AM | #24 | ||
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Yes, I agree. But when Bianca first presented herself symptom free to her neurologist, his response was not to get excited and start asking penetrating questions. He simply took the Chi Center leaflets and put them on the coffee table in the waiting room. A subsequent doc who saw her about a year later and discharged her was a bit more in awe of the situation. But the medical establishment certainly isn't queuing up to interview her or pour over files. And it is the scientific community who is at fault here, not the recovered patient. Bianca has just documented her recovery in a book. That's as far as she can take it. It is up to the med research community to unearth and explain the mechanisms and try to replicate them. It would be an appropriate project for the MJFF because the pharma industry certainly won't fund something they can't patent.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | lindylanka (02-27-2013), MeAndPD (02-26-2013) |
02-26-2013, 12:02 PM | #25 | ||
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So I have to throw out there the book written by the neuro from Harvard, Dr. Eben Alexander, who essentially was brain dead in a coma for days, no brain activity as his brain was "floating in pus"....yet he had an incredible experience which is detailed in his book.
Like ST here, and those in the medical establishment, Dr. Alexander has tried to come up with scientific explanations for how he could have experienced what he did during a time his brain was not functioning, but he cannot. Hence the title of his book "Proof of Heaven". I'm not pushing any agenda here, but this fits in nicely with the whole faith-healing idea. And while we're at it, has anyone here gone to see a medical intuitive? A very dear friend of mine did and it was pretty amazing what she was told about her body by this intuitive she had never met before and who had not reviewed any of her medical records. I like proof as much as the next guy, but sometimes we just don't have explanations for everything. Modern medicine is not coming up with much to help us, so why would we not look at alternatives? And if something out of the box helped someone with PD and made their life better, who am I to poo-poo that? The less misery PD inflicts on someone, anyone, the better |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | MeAndPD (02-26-2013) |
02-26-2013, 12:58 PM | #26 | ||
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lot's of pd research on tai chi, accupuncture, herbs and exercise out there in scientific journals, all researching non-patentable treatments and none mentioning "cure". millions of pd'ers searching for a better therapy before sinemet and she finds a "cure"? hard to believe if there was something there she couldn't get one researcher interested, but then who would buy the book? where would the mystery be? so anyone can buy her book and get cured? has anyone else been verifiably "cured" using her techniques? why aren't you "cured" if you are such a strong believer. if you are cured, wouldn't be hard to get your GP or neuro to sign a notorized statement or something verifying you have significantly improved without pd meds? why do all these cured pd'ers always seem to do it alone? if something was working for me i'd try to let as many pd friends in on the "secret" asap, thats what this board is all about, conveying first person experiences? has she contacted the MJFF? or any pd philanthropist? lot of rich pd''ers out there. There are pd trials run by researchers that are funded by small donations or one philanthropy. they may not produce journal quality data but they are usually stepping stones to larger trials. |
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02-26-2013, 01:09 PM | #27 | ||
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Neither Bianca nor I have ever claimed to have a 'cure'. She says she has recovered as verified by her neurologist. I do not lay claim to have been 'cured' or to have recovered. I take exception to your attempt to imply a lack of integrity on my part. You are being offensive.
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02-26-2013, 01:11 PM | #28 | ||
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i'd sit in a tree and yell "i'm an idiot" if i had proof that it helped 10 people who simply followed the same procedure, witnessed unbiasedly by a nurse or other dependable person and could also verify they weren't taking other drugs.. how hard is that? hey, nothing to keep you from starting a trial here, is there? i'm sure practitoners could be found who would donate their time. |
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02-26-2013, 01:18 PM | #29 | ||
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are you trying the techniques outlined in her book and if so, how are they working? if not, why not? sorry if i offended you. |
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02-26-2013, 01:31 PM | #30 | ||
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"Little did I know that soon I would be completely healed from Parkinson’s Disease through the beautiful body/mind practice of Zhineng Qigong (identified by some as “Chinese Yoga”)." http://www.biancaschichat.com/ |
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