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12-11-2010, 11:39 PM | #11 | ||
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I know what you mean about the sacrifice of giving up Gluten. It was so hard to live like that when I did it. I was actually getting depressed because I couldn't eat my normal foods. And forget about eating out, that is near impossible. You can't trust eating out because they might contaminate your food. I just couldn't deal with it all, while trying to get onto meds, and deal with the fact that I have this debilitating condition. I work full time too and have a family to take care of. It was alot of work trying to eat gluten free....and when I needed a break, I couldn't even go out to eat. I don't mean to discourage you, if you feel you need to try it then you should do it. Maybe it would really help you. I do think that you need to give it at least 6 months. I may do it again next spring, after I take my planned vacation to England. But it does take planning to do it. Anyhow, just wanted to say I know how you feel. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | malawigirl08 (12-14-2010) |
12-12-2010, 01:19 AM | #12 | |||
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12-12-2010, 02:55 AM | #13 | |||
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And let's not put the cart before the horse. At this point, we're talking about a gluten free trial - not a permanent change. Cross that bridge when you come to it - if you even do. Quote:
If, on the other hand, there is no difference, you'll have lost nothing and done no harm, and have some peace of mind and positive feelings for giving it a shot and finding out. Quote:
http://gicare.com/Diets/Gluten-Free.aspx You've also got the advantage/benefit of support here, and hopefully, the rest of your support network (family, friends, medicos...) Doc FWIW, I have some experience going through some difficult diets/lifestyle changes. I've done the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (extremely difficult for most people to do correctly) and I've done dairy free (dairy, like gluten, can be in a lot of things you wouldn't expect). I've decaffeinated several times for different reasons, gone chocolate free (as difficult for me as wheat is for you) and I haven't had alcohol in 8 years (No abuse issues - just not wise with the meds I was taking at the time.) A couple weeks ago I had a glucose tolerance test, and was prepared to do whatever would be necessary if I were discovered to be diabetic.
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12-12-2010, 11:30 AM | #14 | |||
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An example...french fries...why would anyone suspect them to contain flour? Yet, often they are sprinkled with flour to keep them from sticking to each other. Candy bars sometimes contain flour in the fact that often they lay them on sheets coated with flour so they don't stick. Unnecessary, but very true. There are gluten free meds, but you do have to research which ones to use. The gluten free diet is easy once you know what you are doing. YOU MUST read labels, religously...every time you buy the product you must read the label. As Rose_Thorn says, it's not always easy, and we do tend to mourn foods we can't have..yet that mourning time will pass. For some of us, there is no turning back, we must be gluten free, we do not have a choice. If you are one of us, continuing to eat gluten will only make you sicker and sicker. Dr. Smith...remember, just because you do not react does not mean gluten isn't doing damage in your system if you do need to be gluten free. Some people do not have symptoms, yet still must be gluten free. Being gluten free is not a fad, it is not a diet, it's a lifestyle.
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12-12-2010, 01:47 PM | #15 | |||
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So, to carry this to the extreme, would not the paleolithic diet be what is best for us?
Given we have not been evolved all that long, since the invention of agriculture, would it mean that much of what agriculture offers is not really 'good' except for stuff like 'permaculture' which would normally be found naturally in the environment, such as raspberries, strawberries, grapes, apples, pears, mushrooms, asparagus, etc? Basically, if you can find it growing wild? (I think of the Plains Indians and bison and other foraged food?) For protein, bison, deer, elk, caribou, fowl and fish and of course, eggs. I assume domesticated would be as good as wild if it had access to free range. I am not sure milk is as offensive as it is touted to be, given, animals were likely domesticated before farming. (I think of the Sami in the far north....they do milk reindeer, but do no agriculture as such.) This would be brutal for me!! But if it made me feel good, I would probably endure it. I imagine we would be healthier if we wore woolens and furs too. (I am itching already....I suppose cotton and alpaca will cure that.) We are so far away from the environment in which we evolved. I imagine we could have adapted some to agricultural food in 10,000 years ....however, in the last 150 years, we have diverged incredibly from our natural environment. Add plastics (and even man made chemicals that are edible ) in the last 50 years....it's amazing our lifespan has lengthened....then again, those mammoth hunts were kind of tough........
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"Thanks for this!" says: | malawigirl08 (12-14-2010) |
12-12-2010, 01:54 PM | #16 | |||
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Some say based on genetics and blood type (studies are showing this too),
type O's, do best on meat and gathered stuff like the Paleo diet type A's, tolerate grains better type B's, handle dairy the best and game meats (not chicken however), This is the Eat Right 4 your Type diet. A good book to read if interested is Your Body Knows Best. http://books.google.com/books?id=4Wy...page&q&f=false It is a fascinating read, by an experienced dietician. Amazon has used ones for very low prices.
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12-12-2010, 06:14 PM | #17 | |||
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I don't know how much I believe in what he says. There are things he says I can have that I can't, and thinks he says I can't have that I can!
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12-12-2010, 11:46 PM | #18 | ||
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The only thing I want to point out in my defense is......If I knew for sure, I would make the life style change, that's why I was hoping there was a test for gluten sensitivity, but since there is not; your point is well taken, nothing lost if it doesn't prove to be my problem, and if it is the cause for these symptoms.......I hit gold! Yes, you are right I would continue the gluten free lifestyle to eliminate these symptoms. Thank you for your honesty and motivation on this, I really do appreciate it. It is time I put this plan in action. |
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12-12-2010, 11:52 PM | #19 | ||
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I appreciate all your input and knowledge on this subject. I am going to buckle down and just do it! As was pointed out from so many of you experts, what do I have to lose? except maybe some weight and I may have much to gain, like relief of symptoms and a healthier lifestyle. I am ashamed of myself for being so lazy and foolish on this subject. The truth is, I am a carb. addict, that is why I will need to purchase gluten free bread, etc.........so I can somewhat get my fix! |
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12-13-2010, 06:33 AM | #20 | |||
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The only way to truly know if gluten is an issue for you when all testing comes back negative, is going gluten free and letting your body tell you. When going gluten free, if you stick to whole foods and such, staying away from gluten free processed foods, you will lose weight. Gluten free processed foods are full of empty calories, the flours have way too much sugar in them, just to make them something we grudgingly will eat. Some people do fine with the gluten free processed foods though, my dad and sister are ok with them..I can't touch them. Good luck with whatever you decide, and feel free to email me any time with questions!
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