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Old 09-05-2011, 03:28 PM #1
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Hi all, I joined the forums a while back and managed to post hello, but I've not really had time to post since then.
Our Dr had diagnosed my hubby with peripheral neuropathy some months ago and has referred him to the Neurosurgeon.
He has been waiting to see the neurosurgeon for 4 months and things are getting much worse.
He started getting pins and needles in his left foot, which then progressed to both feet. Then the pins and needles were replaced by pain again in the left foot, progressing to the right foot. He describes the pain like walking on pins or razor blades. He can't put his feet on the cold floor as it's to intense, but it's the same if his feet get warm they feel like they are on fire.
A few weeks ago his feet and ankles started swelling, even when he is resting they swell.
He is also getting what he describes at electric shocks in his legs and they have also started in his arms. He said the pain from them is very strong and I have seen him in tears from this pain.
Can anyone tell me if this is all typical of PN symptoms as our Dr told us last week that it may not be PN, it could be a rare condition?
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Can you provide more information? AGE, when this started, what medications have been used? Smoking? etc?

There are many many causes of PN... and without some detective background, it will be difficult to say.

Some spinal damage may be at fault. Slow onset diabetes, use of drugs (some very common) can cause PN. Low thyroid, some bacterial infections, exposure to toxins/metals or solvents. Autoimmune reactions esp after a vaccine. Many Many causes.
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Thank you for the quick response Mrs D
My hubby is 44. We think his symptoms started around xmas time last year.
He is a recovering alcoholic and has been abstinent for 14 months. This is why we are unsure of when the symptoms first started, as they may have been masked by the alcohol and his initial recovery.
Our Dr did think that it was alcoholic PN.
Mark has had blood tests (a few over the last couple of years). At one point his liver function was affected, but it now normal. He was also tested for B12 deficiency, thyroid etc and all came back ok.
He is also being treated for depression and psychosis. His depression seems to be getting worse again, which I put down to his constant pain and feeling his every day life has ended, as there is very little he can do any more.
His current meds are:
Mirtazapine for depression.
Quetiapine for psychosis.
Pregabalin for PN.
Tramadol to help with pain.

Hope this helps.
Can I please ask, is it normal to get this very painful electric shocks with PN?
Thank you once again
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Hope this helps.
Can I please ask, is it normal to get this very painful electric shocks with PN?
Thank you once again
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I have had the painful electric shocks quite often, more often the milder ones. Has he had an EMG lately? My electrical shocks are horrible for the first few weeks after an EMG. It seems to stir things up.
They did settle down somewhat when I went up to 1800 mg of neurontin.
I have hereditary neuropathy, CMT.
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I have had the painful electric shocks quite often, more often the milder ones. Has he had an EMG lately? My electrical shocks are horrible for the first few weeks after an EMG. It seems to stir things up.
They did settle down somewhat when I went up to 1800 mg of neurontin.
I have hereditary neuropathy, CMT.
I would agree that after EMG or even exam with tuning forks etc my nerves were stirred up. I also suffer from painful electric shocks.
The frustrating part for him will be the snails pace of the NHS, the stress from sitting on waiting lists can also add to the symptoms. I wish him well.
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The Quetiapine (Seroquel) is capable of altering blood sugar and raising it. I'd get that checked out ASAP.

I would also get the actual test result from the B12 test. Doctors are still using the old outdated lab ranges, and his "ok" may in fact be low.

Once people who were heavy drinkers, stop, and restore nutrition, any PN present typically can resolve. Benfotiamine (or regular thiamine) may also be helpful for him.

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post653193-4.html

It is possible that all the sedative medications he is taking, are producing a "sedated, or depressed" constellation of side effects. Please keep that in mind.
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Yes these are typical PN symptoms. I'm sorry you and your husband are in this position. Sounds like you need to go after a cause aggressively. It's too bad that most doctors know little about this. The alcohol sounds quite possible. There are several books out on neuropathy, regarding what has helped some folks.

Also see my two documents here:
https://sites.google.com/site/basicpoke/Home/neuropathy

I scanned these from a book in the Numb Foot series, don't have the name at this moment. Supplements that have helped me are evening primrose oil, alpha-lipoic acid, and magnesium.

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Yes these are typical PN symptoms. I'm sorry you and your husband are in this position. Sounds like you need to go after a cause aggressively. It's too bad that most doctors know little about this. The alcohol sounds quite possible. There are several books out on neuropathy, regarding what has helped some folks.

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Thank you Electron, I will have a read up on this tomorrow.
Although we have explain to the Dr how much pain Mark is in, he can not get us into see the specialist any sooner. Mark's appointment should have been 30th Sept and has now been put back to 14th Oct. My poor man had tears in his eyes when he read that.
There is not a resident neurologist at our local hospital, so it seems as though we get second best
Mark said he would have his feet off if it would get rid of the pain as it's so bad.
It breaks my heart so see him suffering day in day out, and I don't think it is doing our children much good either. They are 12 & 14, therefore they can see how much he is suffering.

Sorry for going on and on, just needed to vent a little.

Thank you for your kindness xx
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Thank you Electron, I will have a read up on this tomorrow.
Although we have explain to the Dr how much pain Mark is in, he can not get us into see the specialist any sooner. Mark's appointment should have been 30th Sept and has now been put back to 14th Oct. My poor man had tears in his eyes when he read that.
There is not a resident neurologist at our local hospital, so it seems as though we get second best
Mark said he would have his feet off if it would get rid of the pain as it's so bad.
It breaks my heart so see him suffering day in day out, and I don't think it is doing our children much good either. They are 12 & 14, therefore they can see how much he is suffering.

Sorry for going on and on, just needed to vent a little.

Thank you for your kindness xx
Smoking affects men more than women, in the area of the legs.

I think getting a doppler/ultrasound of the legs is a good idea.
Your doctors may think he is too young... but really when pain is this bad it may reveal blocked blood vessels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periphe...scular_disease
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