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Old 12-10-2007, 09:09 PM #41
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M feet are often cold also but if you touch them they are as warm as can be. I think it is my nerves just playing tricks. I love the juvenile delinquent analogy. My nerves are juvenile deliquents , too!

The only thing I have found is to sleep with socks on. I usually choose a pair of my husbands because they are larger and don't feel tight. It works great to help me sleep

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I am in my 50's and had normal to huge veins until the PN hit....I can go from a normal sized vein to a teeny tiny vein in seconds....some vasospastic phenomenon. A nurse will tell me my veins are great and by the time she comes back with her IV tray....they have shrunk to thread size, the nurse is pale, and I get stuck 5 times and then anesthesia is called to put in the IV....(even if I hydrate). My thesis is all that blood pools in my butt or something.

Cold feet can be good---like for you in the dating scene, when your unemployed boyfriend wants to move in with you, OR for you parents, when your not so responsible son wants to borrow YOUR cell phone because his fell in the toilet. (yeah right) OR when you think about turning the cars keys over. Or when an in-law is planning to use the guest room-indefintely.

I tell my kids, listen to your cold feet.

People with sensory neuropathy have messed up signals from the feet to the brain...or from other parts of the body to the brain...the brain usually works, altho some days, it may seem we are not so smart.

Some days those signals say hot, burning, ouch!! Other days they say, cold, achey, groan.

I shivered thru my biopsy...the doc asked me if I was cold...'nope' nervous, 'nope' I said 'you just gave me a shot of epi and have autonomic neuropathy....voila---I shiver...no rhyme or reason...but I will hang my hat on the epi.'

I have this thing, cute winter socks and hats, and yes, I wear them indoors. A stylish little gnome!
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Hi, just wanted to share what I found out about cold hands and feet.

In the stores around here, they sell this item called HOTHANDS hand warmers.

You open up the pack and you put it inside your gloves and it makes them nice and toasty for 10 hours. Here's what the package looks like (I haven't opened it up yet): It does say on the back, to be careful if you can't feel hot things. So I wouldn't put this directly on the skin, but on top of the socks?? well, why not??



So my thinking is: "if you can put them in your gloves, why not just slip them on top of your socks, put on a loose pair of shoes, (or even in the house, put them inside your slippers)??? Around here, they cost 50 cents a pack, and each pack containes two separate hand warmers. I can't wait to try them out.

Worth a try, right??

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CAUTION!!!!Ok I say this strongly and it may not happen to you but my mom bought me toe warmers there the same as your talking for the hands but you put them on the bottom of you sock. Anyhow my feet go numb like even in a cold doc office I feel like blocks of ice. The other day they were and the power went out so I put them on. Well they get super hot and my feet were numb so I couldn't feel it till it was too late. I'm very sensitive and my feet felt burnt. So just be careful of that.
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Daniella:

Did you put them inside your socks, or on the outside??

I would never put anything next to my skin. Because you don't know how hot these things may get. But if you wear thick socks and just place these over the socks and wrap them around the socks (people find the most amazing ways to put these things on.

Take this way for example.

Say you have cold feet. YOu put on a nice thick pair of socks. You place the tow warmers over them. Then you get a really bigger pair of stocks and place these over the whole thing. Now I realize you can't go outside like this, but for inside the house, if the thing does it's stuff, your skin is protected and you get nice and toasty.

Now I have no idea if this will work.

Last year, in January (and before I took the Methyl B-12), my feet got so cold, I would use those microwaveable aromatic beaded things that, once they are nice and warm, you can wrap it around your shoulder, or place it on the floor and put your feet on it. Saved my life last winter.

Now I have no idea if I will have cold feet this winter because I have been doing the Methyl B-12 things.

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Congratulations Mel....cute name...I like it... it isn't Lars Larsson, or Olaf Olofsson! I get to say that as all my ancestors are named that on one side....

On those 'hot thingies' you put in gloves....they do work, but as u said, not to put anything hot or cold, chemical or electrical on bare skin. I have those things here at home...it is tough to put them in shoes as they throw off your gait.

I am off to make gingerbread men...and women. We are snowed in to the max....we were on the ice/snow border and we got snow, thank God---it is really coming down, schools are closed and making cookies on a day like today is tradition.

Labradors, (dogs) love this kind of weather.....they cry to go out and flail around in the flakes, chase like crazy. I would say we have 6 inches so far, today....and it is still coming. My dogs (3 of them) have an acre fenced in by invisible fencing so they run around like crazy, when they look like Yetis they beg to come in! They get tired, come in all wet, eat a chew, then go to the patio door and whine to go out again. I mop up and it starts all over.

I keep getting my socks wet....so it is a cold feet day. That is OK, I have lots of socks that must have been made by Mrs. Olof Olofsson (AKA Anna Andersdotter), or some other aptly named little gnome...so I keep switching socks. I am now warming them up ahead of time on my heating pad!!! My, my, I am good!!! I think I am getting this cold feet thing down. Ya hey dair....Happy Holidays!

Oh and Wiix....consider me the Erma Bombeck of PN....I am glad you enjoy my humor....I am sure there are those who think I need haldol. I do cry as much as I laugh...only I tend to bawl in private...(oh my, even that had a double entendre). Sorry, I can't help it. I need a comedy show....(boy would I need the make-up---I could keep quite a few of them make-up artists employed.)
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Well, yes, if your feet are numb then you certainly don't put ANY heat souce on them. That's why I say , warm water soak then dry them and massage them with Cocoa Butter to get the circulation improved, an wiggle your toes while you do it. I think some of this FRIGIDITY may just be from your feet not Moving and being stimulated. TRY the Natural way Before you try all these Other extremes. It May help a lot.

It sort of reminds me of something else I figured out. You know how sometimes above your eyes are all puffy and flop down OVER your upper eyelids?? I thought about WHY this happens and if you think about it, does this area MOVE?? No, it doesn't so a gentle, upward and outward massage with a moisturizer a few minutes a day will actually remove some of this puffiness. I have been doing this now for about a year and it has actually improved the situation about 50%. Plus the fact I lost about 30 pounds in the past 6 or 8 months has also improved the situation.

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I'm sure others will be along to answer too. My feet get very cold, yet I can't say freezing. Three years ago when I was working at a convience/gas station and on my feet for my entire shift, my feet burned. In the last 2 years, they rarely burn, they ache, sometimes are numb, and they both have a certain area that swells.

Now Kev has diabetic neuropathy and his feet are always cold, ice cold to the touch. He always says he thinks it is caused by poor circulation. So, I would imagine, you will get many answers.
When I was in my early 40's I was close to 260 pounds. I had 2 stress fractures, one in both feet, JUST from standing. Hurt like a son of a gun too. I had xrays to see what was going on. I HAD to lose weight. I got them just standing at the sink doing dishes and couldn't walk for a few weeks. Well, I could but it was Very difficult and painful until they healed.
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My gingerbread men are gingerbread bears....gender neutral. (The cookie cutter looked like a man at first...I did not have my glasses on.)

The gingerbread roof collapsed despite being built to meet the LA building codes...it is OK, we are cementing back together with some powdered sugar.

It is important to have a good diet and the ideal weight (I preach this all the time)...so THAT is why I am making gingerbread blobs when I want to lose 10 pounds....some things defy logic. As you see, I do not practice what I preach....I only ate 3 bears.

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My feet often feel cold although they are warm to the touch. I sleep with socks on, and that helps. My toes usually feel better when I am walking.
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You live in Boulder....what is not perfect??? I visit there, and it is gorgeous, no matter what time of year....hate your traffic tho. 300 days of sunshine...I am soo jealous. Of course, every one is so nice to me when I visit, as I live near one of Boulder's 'sister cities'....the 'Boulder of the Midwest'. See, you are cool if you live in one of these cities. (I am from the sticks near the city, but I pass, as I used to live in the city.)

More folks from here by me, move to there by you.

For some reason, I can not wear socks to bed...but my naughty dogs jump up when I am asleep and lay on my feet....so my feet are seldom cold at night. It is always a 'three dog night' at my house.

Did you guys now that how many dogs you sleep with is the old arctic way of judging the cold.....one dog..not too bad, two dogs, must be below freezing, three dogs, zero to 20 degrees, and you need the whole pack if it is below zero---you take whatever you can get....even socks in the bed.
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