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Gabapentin and Lyrica are not metabolized appreciably by the
liver.

However, the BuTrans has a definite DO NOT DRINK in its
directions.

Baclofen? Highly impairing.

People may fall, hit their heads or some other body part and
serious injury may result...or death.

Gabapentin and Lyrica are also very sedating. What you get is FOUR drugs, messing with your reflexes and balance, and then
the alcohol on top of it. A mixture with severe potential for a nasty accident.
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I drank a LOT before the PN started and then drank even more which was idiotic considering it was alcoholic PN.

It wasnt just for the pain killing though, I only now realize that i have been very depressed all my life and the booze was a way of masking it. Also my father died from alcoholic related cause.

about 6 months post PN my mother was diagnosed with lung cancer and I was the only carer and thats when it kicked in the worst. Mercifully it was only several months but I started to drink a bottle of scotch every second day and that was just at home, I was also taking up to 450 mg of lyrica and this went on for another year.

Alcohol was the best pain killer by far when it kicked in but the next day was agony so more alcohol, pretty bad circle and will never go back there

These days I have a pint of guineas on a special occasion. The human body is remarkable in its tolerance to abuse , just look at keith richards from the Rolling Stones, nuff said
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You know, Baclofen is being used now in alcohol cessation
treatments. It is supposed to stop cravings:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16490478
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The human body is remarkable in its tolerance to abuse , just look at keith richards from the Rolling Stones, nuff said
Yeah, but that reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons when The Mayo Clinic diagnosed Mr. Burns with every disease known to man in a state of homeostasis that cancelled each other out, keeping him alive at 108.

Maybe it's the same with Keith Richards and all the drugs he's done.

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More on Keith Richards:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ppearance.html

There are people who smoke like chimneys, drink enormously and do cocaine and don't die young. It is all in the genetics.
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There are people who smoke like chimneys, drink enormously and do cocaine and don't die young. It is all in the genetics.
...or.... Only the good die young.
(Any idea how hard it is to find anything on that old proverb since Billy Joel, Def Leppard, Queen, Iron Maiden, etc.?)

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Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable says that the phrase goes back to the Greek gnomic poets. The Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs attributes the similar phrase 'Whom the gods love die young' to Menander, a Greek comic playwright who flourished at the end of the 4th century BC/BCE.

The idea behind the saying seems to be that the world is a wicked place in which only evildoers can expect to thrive and survive. Those who have no talent for evil will die young, killed off by the wicked.
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question26563.html
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Well, let's just say this:

Keith Richards looks like he is half dead already.
He is about my age and I don't look like that for sure.

I don't think he will be around much longer. So "young" can be a relative term where he is concerned.

With all that cocaine, I hope he has good cardiologists!
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Well, let's just say this:

Keith Richards .... is about my age and I don't look like that for sure.
YEESH! I SHOULD HOPE NOT!

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I don't even have any age spots on my hands, like women get commonly. And I don't have much wrinkling (Don't smoke)
Face is getting a bit saggy now though--gravity

My doctor has commented on the lack of skin changes. Guess it is all those antioxidants? LOL

Edit to add--I just turned on to CNN and discovered this tragic fact:
Whitney Houston has passed away...a beautiful woman with a
rare gift. So sad! One of the world's most beautiful voices!
Seems appropriate for this discussion.
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Edit to add--I just turned on to CNN and discovered this tragic fact:
Whitney Houston has passed away...a beautiful woman with a
rare gift. So sad! One of the world's most beautiful voices!
Seems appropriate for this discussion.
At one time. The obit I just read said that her voice was pretty much trashed by drug abuse.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501368_1...ds-films-dies/
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