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Old 08-19-2013, 09:44 AM #1
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For those interested further:

Drawing Blood
by Keith Wailoo associate professor in the dept. Of Social
Medicine and the Dept. of History Univ. of North Carolina
at Chapel Hill. (at the time of the book's writing) 1997.

I am now on chapter 4: pernicious anemia and Dr. Mayo
is still doing splenectomies for this problem too.( and the
Majority of his patients are still dying.

What this history reveals is also the attitudes of doctors,
Which patients are not privy to. In that regard it is very
Horrifying and revealing. I really don't think much has
Changed today except that Big pharma has taken hold
of many doctors to the patients' detriment. But that is
just my opinion and experience.

Amazon has this book in its used section for very
little cost.
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It is very helpful to read older posts here. Some posters
move on but contribute helpful things. We have so many
Posts on this subject it is worth looking at them.
Dr. William Worrell Mayo died in 1911. Dr. William James Mayo died in 1939 and Dr. Charles Horace Mayo died in 1939.

Spleenectomies are still done today. Here is a site: Scroll down to "Hemolytic Anemia".

http://www.mayoclinic.org/anemia/treatment.html

Here is a history of the Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/history/

I can't say that the Mayo Clinic was "established" for the purpose of doing spleen removals for a fraudulent diagnosis of spleen anemia.
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Very interesting, as I've been prone to use this in the past. Going to take a look at some suggested links and research some of own
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I am only relating what is stated in
The book I referenced. I did not write
The history myself. The bibliography in
This book is 80 pages long! You are welcome to
buy or borrow the book for your own purposes and
Read further.

The splenectomies were done for the erroneous belief
In splenic anemia. These surgeries are still done for
Some uncommon other reasons today but back then
Were done for common anemias.
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I am only relating what is stated in
The book I referenced. I did not write
The history myself. The bibliography in
This book is 80 pages long! You are welcome to
buy or borrow the book for your own purposes and
Read further.

The splenectomies were done for the erroneous belief
In splenic anemia. These surgeries are still done for
Some uncommon other reasons today but back then
Were done for common anemias.
Drawing Blood, the book, appears to be
On google books. I can't link on this iPhone
But I think you can find it easily .
I used splenic anemia William mayo history
As a keyword phrase.
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I only see Dr. William Mayo's name mentioned once on page 49 of that book. This was under "The Rise and Fall of Speenic Anemia". There were many physicians before and after him. By the 1930's spleenic anemia was seldom mentioned.

http://books.google.com/books?id=XAu...0blood&f=false

Scroll down to #2.
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Do you know if there were several Dr. Mayo's? I seem to recall that when I went there, one of the doctors who DX'd me in the late 80's was a Doc. Mayo. Now I am curious. ginnie
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Ginnie, we are talking about history
Back in the early 1900's.

In my edition of this book, page 60
Has a lot of detail, and surprising to
Me many subsequent pages. I am
Still in chapter 4 which is the pernicious
Anemia history, and Mayo was removing
Spleens for that too. I am reading another book
Called The Forest and trading back and forth.

We have no TV here. So I tend to read a lot.

The bibliography details many medical
Papers at that time of the continuing
Arguments between radical surgeries (at
Mayo) and other doctors who believed
These surgeries were fatal and unnecessary .

One needs to really read in context because the rise in
Abdominal surgeries was the real problem at that time
And lead to unnecessary suffering and death.
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Ginnie, we are talking about history
Back in the early 1900's.

In my edition of this book, page 60
Has a lot of detail, and surprising to
Me many subsequent pages. I am
Still in chapter 4 which is the pernicious
Anemia history, and Mayo was removing
Spleens for that too. I am reading another book
Called The Forest and trading back and forth.

We have no TV here. So I tend to read a lot.

The bibliography details many medical
Papers at that time of the continuing
Arguments between radical surgeries (at
Mayo) and other doctors who believed
These surgeries were fatal and unnecessary .

One needs to really read in context because the rise in
Abdominal surgeries was the real problem at that time
And lead to unnecessary suffering and death.
There was a psychiatrist at a mental hospital in North Jersey that believed mental illness was caused by infection. This was the early twentieth century. He began by removing teeth, then proceeded to more involved abdominal surgeries. He had a 30% death rate, and of course he did not have a single cure, but was allowed to continue for 30 years. It was truly a barbaric time.
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The 19th C. was really an explosive time of learning & new knowledge in medicine as well as other fields, due in part to the industrial revolution. Sadly, many of the advances in surgery (in any century) have come out of wars & battlefield surgery. I'm thinking of Civil War surgery in this case. [WARNING: Graphic descriptions and photos may be unsettling to some.]

This whole topic (19th C. medical history) is fascinating, but it's also kind of OT. Should it be moved to another thread/forum?

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