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Old 12-14-2013, 10:34 AM #31
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Biofreeze is not a cure to an underlying condition. I have read where the act of rubbing in Biofreeze gel helps. It comes in colorless now too. It is like ice according to their site except you can walk around and do your normal activities. Using an ice pack makes that not very feasible.
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I agree, i think fish oil is very important. And the zyflamend is $30 for 120 pills that is 2 months which is $15 for a months supply so I don't think that is expensive, that is taking 2 pills a day.

For me, I would pay $50 for it as my improvement is that great with it. I rode a plane yesterday and never had to use my fan, that is quite simply a miracle for me. I sat in the airport almost 8 hours with no burning whatsoever. Miracle. The zyflamend is a saving grace for me. My trip in the airport down BEFORE I had gotten the zyflamend was awful. I had to use my portable fan at my feet on the plane. Results are the proof for me.

I am so happy. Last night after coming home to cold and snow I took a bath to warm up...I didn't even use my fan afterwards. Even my husband said it was amazing the difference.
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Never under estimate the power of fish oil (krill oil). It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. Most people in US don't consume enough Omega-3s in their diet.

I'd start that first, as it is maybe all you need. The Zyflamend
is rather pricey for what you get.

I've always used the gel form of Biofreeze. I think that gel is a
transdermal type and carries the menthol and Ilex herb antioxidant into the tissue better. I believe they have reformulated it and now have other antioxidant herbs added as well. I haven't used the new one yet.
I do take Omega 3 Fish oil. I also have Biofreeze and both gel and roll on. So you take Krill oil? Is it suppose to be better or cheaper?
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I know MrsD likes krill but my own research swayed my opinion that there are some negatives with krill and after almost a year of reading and asking people and talking to many nutrition experts at various stores I chose fish oil instead, though I do believe where it comes from is very important.

It is a subject that has many variables and everyone has a different opinion on fish vs krill.
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I moved to Krill oil for personal reasons. It is a highly solubilized type of EPA and DHA... so less is needed because of its better absorption. It also has an antioxidant naturally in it (astaxanthin).

I use 2 MegaReds a day.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...-oil/index.htm

And this is a new paper:
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Eur J Nutr. 2013 Jun;52(4):1315-25. doi: 10.1007/s00394-012-0441-2. Epub 2012 Aug 25.
Krill oil versus fish oil in modulation of inflammation and lipid metabolism in mice transgenic for TNF-α.
Vigerust NF, Bjørndal B, Bohov P, Brattelid T, Svardal A, Berge RK.
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Institute of Medicine, University of Bergen, Bergen, Norway. Natalya.Vigerust@med.uib.no
Abstract
PURPOSE:

Biological effects of marine oils, fish oil (FO) and krill oil (KO), are mostly attributed to the high content of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFAs), predominantly eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). The study was aimed to investigate the influence of FO and KO on lipid homeostasis and inflammation in an animal model of persistent low-grade exposure to human tumor necrosis factor α (hTNF-α) and to evaluate whether these effects depend on the structural forms of EPA and DHA [triacylglycerols (TAG) vs. phospholipids].
METHODS:

Male C57BL/6 hTNF-α mice were fed for 6 weeks a high-fat control diet (24.50 % total fats, w/w) or high-fat diets containing either FO or KO at similar doses of n-3 PUFAs (EPA: 5.23 vs. 5.39 wt%, DHA: 2.82 vs. 2.36 wt% of total fatty acids).
RESULTS:

We found that KO, containing bioactive n-3 PUFAs in the form of phospholipids, was capable of modulating lipid metabolism by lowering plasma levels of TAG and cholesterol and stimulating the mitochondrial and peroxisomal fatty acid β-oxidation, as well as improving the overall carnitine turnover. Though the administration of FO was not as effective as KO in the lowering of plasma TAG, FO significantly improved the levels of all cholesterol classes in plasma. Except from the increase in the levels of IL-17 in FO-fed mice and a trend to decrease in MCP-1 levels in KO-fed animals, the levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines were not substantially different between treatment groups.
CONCLUSION:

Our findings demonstrate that FO and KO are comparable dietary sources of n-3 PUFAs. However, when quantitatively similar doses of n-3 PUFAs are administered, KO seems to have a greater potential to promote lipid catabolism. The effect of dietary oils on the levels of inflammatory markers in hTNF-α transgenic mice fed a high-fat diet needs further investigations.

PMID:
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from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22923017

and this is interesting too:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23876229
Phospholipids is what Krill oil has.

Fish oil or Krill oil...it is a personal choice. But both help with inflammation.
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I know MrsD likes krill but my own research swayed my opinion that there are some negatives with krill and after almost a year of reading and asking people and talking to many nutrition experts at various stores I chose fish oil instead, though I do believe where it comes from is very important.

It is a subject that has many variables and everyone has a different opinion on fish vs krill.
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I moved to Krill oil for personal reasons. It is a highly solubilized type of EPA and DHA... so less is needed because of its better absorption. It also has an antioxidant naturally in it (astaxanthin).

I use 2 MegaReds a day.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...-oil/index.htm

And this is a new paper:

from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22923017

and this is interesting too:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23876229
Phospholipids is what Krill oil has.

Fish oil or Krill oil...it is a personal choice. But both help with inflammation.
I will have to read all your links. I just use Kirkland brand Omega 3's Fish oil.
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Post Zyflamed & Dried Cherries

I sent for Zyflamed, and both my husband and I took 2 a day for about a week. It upset our stomachs, and caused a great deal of bloat and gas....very uncomfortable. I wish I could send the rest of it to someone who would use it. It's a big bottle with about 120 capsules left.

I tried the dried cherries, and really like them. I have them in my oatmeal in the morning.
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If you are not use to oregano it even says on the instructions to start off slowww with only 1 pill a day.

I use to take oregano pure form years ago so I knew I could tolerate it. But everyone is different.

Sorry you can't take it, as it's been a miracle for me and I just started my son on it yesterday for his knee, old basketball injury causing pain again.
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If you are not use to oregano it even says on the instructions to start off slowww with only 1 pill a day.

I use to take oregano pure form years ago so I knew I could tolerate it. But everyone is different.

Sorry you can't take it, as it's been a miracle for me and I just started my son on it yesterday for his knee, old basketball injury causing pain again.


As was recommended; I started by taking only one a day. Didn't notice any problem.
Shortly afterwards was preparing for Colonoscopy so had gone off; but will start up again today.


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Never under estimate the power of fish oil (krill oil). It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory. Most people in US don't consume enough Omega-3s in their diet.
Flaxseed is also a good source of omega-3's. They also contain lignans and fiber.
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