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February 07-30-2015 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1158696)
Ticks are out of control here. I get deer ticks (a.k.a. Lyme ticks) in my backyard in suburban Madison. My poor dog had the first one of the season dug into his back, earlier this spring. My vet was surprised that the deer ticks had come out that early...

I am worried about Lyme disease too. My dog had a tick in her eyelid. The vet took it out with a TickTwister by Zenpet. They sell them at the vet for $5.00. It took 2 seconds to get it out. They said the er drs use them for people. They said it usually takes 24-48 hours for a tick to spread lyme disease. I carry the TickTwister in my handbag next to my lip gloss.

mrsD 07-30-2015 07:15 AM

Thanks, February... that was an eye opener link!

I've commented here often about life style and PN... since many PN causes come from the environment. So I sometimes see that people coming here are doing something (food/exercise/ etc) in excess in some way. Stopping or shifting therefore, that excess, sometimes affords relief and a glimpse of the trigger. Unfortunately, most people here ignore me when I mention this.
Their belief that they are doing "healthy" things, can be very strong.

Combined with the loss of bowel Oxalobacter organisms from overuse of antibiotics, the oxalate issue while significant, takes on a really new destructive definition. I have seen the oxalate diet mentioned with a condition called vulvodynia.

Here is a link with more about the actual tissues that are affected by high oxalates...with some illustrations.

http://www.westonaprice.org/health-t...nic-disorders/

Eskiemom 07-30-2015 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by February (Post 1158739)
I'm not sure if I am able to post yet but will try. This article explains why foods with high oxalates, in particular green smoothies, may not be good for everyone.
http://www.townsendletter.com/Jan2015/green0115.html

This is great..Thank you for sharing.

Makes me give pause -- between these foods, grains/gluten, glycemic -- there is almost nothing left to eat.

I only drink about a 1/2 cup of a smoothie - but I put in frozen organic berries, chard, spinich, beet greens or kale, ice, plain kefir and a bit of juice for liquid. Sometimes a frozen banana too. They are rarely "green" - but still.

Kitt 07-30-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by February (Post 1158741)
I am worried about Lyme disease too. My dog had a tick in her eyelid. The vet took it out with a TickTwister by Zenpet. They sell them at the vet for $5.00. It took 2 seconds to get it out. They said the er drs use them for people. They said it usually takes 24-48 hours for a tick to spread lyme disease. I carry the TickTwister in my handbag next to my lip gloss.


Not all deer ticks carry Lyme Disease. And that is correct that they have to feed for about 18- 24 hours or so in order for a person to get it or a dog. They are usually very hard to find. Here is a site:

http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/transmission/

madisongrrl 07-30-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitt (Post 1158758)
And that is correct that they have to feed for about 18- 24 hours or so in order for a person to get it or a dog.

http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/transmission/

This original thought about transmission time was based on what was seen in veterinary/animal studies and didn't take into consideration how many times the tick had previously fed. Clinically some doctors are seeing Lyme disease from ticks that fed 8 hours or potentially less on the patient.

I think I fell into the less than 24 hour camp in 2005. My lyme tests were negative (I had 4) but I had all the standard clinical symptoms minus the rash. My conventional HMO doctors treated me with with antibiotics anyway. I don't think this would happen in 2015.

kiwi33 07-31-2015 12:35 AM

Thanks February - that link looks good to me.

Neuroproblem 07-31-2015 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1158769)
This original thought about transmission time was based on what was seen in veterinary/animal studies and didn't take into consideration how many times the tick had previously fed. Clinically some doctors are seeing Lyme disease from ticks that fed 8 hours or potentially less on the patient.

I think I fell into the less than 24 hour camp in 2005. My lyme tests were negative (I had 4) but I had all the standard clinical symptoms minus the rash. My conventional HMO doctors treated me with with antibiotics anyway. I don't think this would happen in 2015.

They nymphs, which are very hard to see sometimes can also transmit the disease as well. Your dog can be protected with a vaccine which was made for dogs.

February 07-31-2015 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=mrsD;1158743]Thanks, February... that was an eye opener link!

I've commented here often about life style and PN... since many PN causes come from the environment. So I sometimes see that people coming here are doing something (food/exercise/ etc) in excess in some way. Stopping or shifting therefore, that excess, sometimes affords relief and a glimpse of the trigger. Unfortunately, most people here ignore me when I mention this.
Their belief that they are doing "healthy" things, can be very strong.

Combined with the loss of bowel Oxalobacter organisms from overuse of antibiotics, the oxalate issue while significant, takes on a really new destructive definition. I have seen the oxalate diet mentioned with a condition called vulvodynia.

Here is a link with more about the actual tissues that are affected by high oxalates...with some illustrations.

It's trial and error with so much to learn and so few lessons on how to be sick or get well. I have been trenching through all the variables that impact essential vitamins and minerals that our bodies started out with, including disease process, medications, dosage and types of supplements to compensate and regulate, foods, exercise, therapies, bla, bla, bla... and while not feeling well. I used to feel like the pictures you posted but I feel human again, so it's worth it. We have smart phones, houses, cars and stupid refrigerators and medicine cabinets.

February 07-31-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eskiemom (Post 1158745)
This is great..Thank you for sharing.

Makes me give pause -- between these foods, grains/gluten, glycemic -- there is almost nothing left to eat.

I only drink about a 1/2 cup of a smoothie - but I put in frozen organic berries, chard, spinich, beet greens or kale, ice, plain kefir and a bit of juice for liquid. Sometimes a frozen banana too. They are rarely "green" - but still.

It's still only a possibility. If you think it's worth a try, start with the 3 steps so it's not overwhelming.

I used Now Brand powder form.

There are lots of great recipe blogs, and also pinterest, with the same food limitations.

Wiix 07-31-2015 10:13 AM

Excuse my ignorance but what is PN?


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