Nope, it was that lawn fertilizer that so many people use, and it wasn't bacteria. I guess its fungus and algae. Maybe mold?

I am confusing that with the info on pesticides that create antibiotic resistant types of microbes.

We stay far away from all that stuff for our yard, but being at a low point, I am sure that we absorb a lot of what the neighbors use into our soil and possibly due to that we might have more mold spores, and maybe dangerous microbes around.

Well pesticides are designed to kill insects, that eat crops or plants, And breed resistance in these insects. Antibiotics are for bacteria.

Here is an explanation of what pesticides are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide

Antibiotics are used in living animals and humans to kill pathogens inside the body. They are highly specific and if overused in animal husbandry or in people they lend to the target bacteria mutating and becoming resistant to them.

Yes, but pesticides and antibiotics are contributing to stronger mutated forms of bacteria.

I was confusing the lawn fertilizers that grow different types of microbes and calling it all bacteria when I was thinking "microbes".My brain is jumbled with information from an awesome class I just took on the microbiome. Very exciting stuff!



"Microbes"- NIH
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/micr...s/default.aspx

Microbes are tiny organisms—too tiny to see without a microscope, yet they are abundant on Earth. They live everywhere—in air, soil, rock, and water. Some live happily in searing heat, while others thrive in freezing cold. Some microbes need oxygen to live, but others do not. These microscopic organisms are found in plants and animals as well as in the human body.

Some microbes cause disease in humans, plants, and animals. Others are essential for a healthy life, and we could not exist without them. Indeed, the relationship between microbes and humans is delicate and complex.

Most microbes belong to one of four major groups: bacteria, viruses, fungi, or protozoa. A common word for microbes that cause disease is "germs." Some people refer to disease-causing microbes as "bugs." "I've got the flu bug," for example, is a phrase you may hear during the wintertime to describe an influenza virus infection.

Since the 19th century, we have known microbes cause infectious diseases. Near the end of the 20th century, researchers began to learn that microbes also contribute to many chronic diseases and conditions. Mounting scientific evidence strongly links microbes to some forms of cancer, coronary artery disease, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, and chronic lung diseases.

Lawn fertilizers consist of Nitrogen, Phosphate and Potassium compounds that plants use to grow. In this case grass.
You will see on fertilizer labels 3 numbers... 12-12-12 (example--these numbers vary depending on the target use).
That is the strength of left to right Nitrogen, phosphate, and potassium. There are fertilizers that have pesticides mixed into them..
to kill weeds and insects that live below the soil. A common name for this type of fertilizer is "weed and feed".

Nitrogen is used to make green growth by plants. Phosphate is typically used for flowers and blooms. Potassium is used to make strong root systems.

The algae that we are discussing on this thread is predominately stimulated by phosphates.

When you quote a source from the net on NT you need to put in the link where you found it. A short quote + link is spelled out in our guidelines. The explanation and link of this copyright rule is in my siggie for convenience.

The microbiome is the new research in human medicine to help explain how the beneficial organisms in our GI tract and elsewhere...yes, they are everywhere, can be damaged by drugs and antibiotics and then the health of the person is shifted into a disease state.
It is exciting and may provide treatments to help many many people. But this microbiome does NOT include the blue green algae we are discussing on this thread. This algae cannot live and reproduce inside us, and when it dies, it releases toxins that our bodies are not equipped to deal with...these toxins attack cells of the nervous system, lining of the GI tract, skin and other organs like the liver and kidneys.

Hi Healthgirl. Do you live in an area where your neighbor's use Roundup? There are lots of dangerous side effects from this pesticide according to things I've read.

Round-up has been recently implicated in causing cancer. It is used to remove weeds and poison ivy and unwanted vegetation.

It is so toxic that you cannot grow anything on the ground after using it for months! It poisons the soil. (for at least 3 months, or longer).

https://www.organicconsumers.org/old...yphocancer.php

I have also seen a seminar on YouTube, discussing Round Up as a trigger for Autism.

Roundup is not included in regular lawn fertilizers. It is a stand alone product typically and applied in specific situations.

Thanks Mrs. D,
I edited the post and added the link. I thought it was ok that I put quotes and the source next to it.
Now I know I must put the link as well.

I live in a neighborhood that is filled with people who use what ever legal stuff you can purchase at Lowe's. Yes, I do know that some people around her use spray round up for weeds.
I know almost everyone uses the big bags of lawn fertilizer and pesticides and some people have their lawns maintained with what ever the professional landscapers use and then put the little caution flags out on the perimeters.
I'm sure this is the case in most neighborhoods though.

The good news is that my husbands legs and foot are completely back to normal. My daughter had a great weekend- no headaches, rashes, nervy type symptom complaints. Yesterday was a beautiful sunny day and they all were feeling great.

The bad news is that out of no where- I can't move my neck again. I haven't felt this bad since February.
The muscles are spasming and my nerves throughout my shoulders, neck, head and face are completely wigging out. I feel like my head, face, and neck are being squeezed. The brain fog is back and the pain is excruciating. I am having to take pain meds at the rate I did at the onset of this thing.

I don't understand this. I was able to move my neck again, drive, use my arms, and I was happy.
I can't figure out what happened to cause this. Last week I was doing better than I had been - since this started.
I went to bed, had a good nights sleep and then woke up like this on Saturday. It rapidly got worse every hour of the day and here I am Monday.

I thought we were onto something and going to find a solution to this madness. I was feeling quite positive that this mystery was going to be uncovered and solved. We are going on vacation and glad to be away from here for a while.



The only thing I can think of is that by the time I went to the doctor for my first symptoms, it was October 2013. It took me a month or two to go so it really started Aug- Sept. My severe nerve pain started last year in August and I wound up in the emergency room in Sept. Here I am in August again and having what could be a relapse.

so the link is August.