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Old 12-27-2011, 06:44 PM #81
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Hi Granacki,
I was wondering how you are doing since this posting. Can't tell what date it was. your neuropathy sounds much like mine. I tried many different modums and none were effective. In July my condition had progressed so that I could hardly walk and my balance was really bad. I went on a diet eliminating sugars even tho I am not diabetic, but they were high just the same in the pre-diabetic category. My diet also cut out most if not all processed foods. My sugar dropped drastically in 6 weeks and I continue to have a lab test periodically to keep it down. My balance returned in a couple of months, my walk improved consistently. I followed the book "There is a Cure for Arthritis" a book written back in the 50s. I also implemented a regular exercise program and lots of walking. This all has done me more good than anything. I continue to improve and can see the improvement. I also take the supplements that Mrs. D recommended and have taken them for over a year. I am a firm believer that what we put in our mouth is the first most important treatment we can do. It starts there. Hope to hear you're doing well.

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So glad to hear some anti-MAG responses out there!

Here's what I know so far about anti-MAG. Glentaj is exactly right. It's an elevated IgM protein in the blood that produces anti-bodies that attack the Myelin sheath. I've been told it is mostly sensory, but can develop into a motor-neuropathy. The doctors don't know why a person's blood all of a sudden starts producing too much IgM, or why everyone with the excess protein doesn't get neuropathy. (Rina-- this is a special blood test not in your usual workup). The same elevated protein is also associated with scary cancers like multiple myeloma (bones) and Waldenstrom's macroglobulinemia (blood cancer) so they do tests for those too. I guess I should consider myself lucky since after months of tests at the University of Chicago all the really hideous things were ruled out and I was left just the way I came in -- with numb, tingling, and burning feet, and no cure or treatment.

For me, it started with numbness on the bottom of my left foot and in my toes, and was exacerbated when I walked a lot. (I like to walk miles along the lakefront). I assumed it was a mechanical issue and I went to orthopedic doctors first, who diagnosed it as metarsalgia (basically inflammation from fallen metarsal arches). I argued with a string of orthotists whose expensive orthotics had no effect. Then, anxious to do something more proactive, I wrongly had surgery for a modified bunionectomy and the insertion of screws in my foot to keep the bones from moving around too much. Of course the incisions killed off even more nerves that never came back. Then I tried a podiatrist who specialized in neuropathy who wanted to do more surgery to release what he said was tarsal tunnel (a nerve compression). All along I kept asking these doctors if I should see a neurologist and they said, no, not necessary. Finally after a chiropractor, acupuncture, and chinese herbs, I found my own neurologist and got my diagnosis. I go back tomorrow for a 6 month visit.

From what I hear from CIDP sufferers, another auto-immune neuropathy, that condition sounds far more debilitating. The only positive about CIDP is that it does seem to respond to some treatments. Steroids have no effect on most anti-MAG, nor do they seem to recommend the IV plasma exchange treatement. The only treatment that shows some benefit is Rituxan but since it's so toxic, they wait until you're in really bad shape before trying it.

What little information I have seen says anti-MAG shows "little progression over long periods." With a heightened awareness of every new twitch and buzz and sting moving slowly up my feet for the past three years, and now above my ankles, I'm trying to grasp what slowly progressive means. I'm also trying to imagine how I can walk if the muscles still work but I can't feel any sensations below my knees. I've always had extremely high energy levels, do lots of different things including run my own business and take care of a family, and am pretty fit and otherwise healthy for being almost 60. This anti-MAG isn't really slowing my hyperactivity down too much but it does make walking uncomfortable. I'm just wondering how much longer do I have before it gets really bad, and how bad will it really get?
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:55 AM #82
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I have the same problem and went thru a simlar long program trying to identify. they start with the worst..

three years now and progressing slowly/ I did the rituxan therapy with little effect. not sure how bad this will get. I spend 1 1/2 days in the gym/ at this point all sensory no motor but I can barely type and balance is bad

be interested to share notes
i have been diagnosed with anti MAG recently after years of trying to figure out what the problem is... they thought i had reynodes syndrome but i suppose that was a mis-diagnosis... now that the anti MAG is confirmed i await some kind of treatment but from what i heard nothing really works all that well. chemo therapy is an option....
Rituxan is not available in Canada ... but maybe someday...
so far i have lost most of the feeling in my feet (apart from some tingling and occasional pain) balance is definitely getting worse... especially in darkness...several times i have fallen down the stairs as i mis-step and lose it ... fortunately only fallen from lower steps ...

Doctors do not know how i acquired this ... it may be because of early radiation many years before ... ??or possible street drug use back in the seventies? possible frost bite back in the seventies?
anyone experience a similar thing?

thanks to all on this site...

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Old 01-11-2012, 06:29 PM #83
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Hi -
Just another comment... Rituximab does show improvement for PN - I've experienced it, however it's tough to get it funded if not for a cancer treatment (which was my case - in Canada, anyway). I am on a 'maintenance schedule' now, recieving a dose every three months for two years. My neurologist feels I should be 95% recovered by then. Mynumbness is still unchanged but my motor skills and reflexes are much better.
Hope this helps!
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Hi LisaMac
i was led to believe Rituximab was not available in Canada.. where (if you don't mind my asking ) in Canada are you...i am in Southern Ontario and see a neurologist at MacMaster University Hospital..i would definitely like to keep in touch with you to follow your treatments.
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Granacki, this post is to you and any others out there with AntiMAG IgM.

In 2007, Granack posted a question seeking out others with AntiMAG neuropathy, but did not mention whether it was IgM, IgG or other related. Now, it is 2012. From you and from any other's with AntiMAG IgM, I am wondering how you are doing, how your symptoms have or have not progressed, and what treatments you have had.

My husband's symptoms began in 2001 at age 68. In 2005 was diagnosed with CIDP variant - AntiMAG IgM polyneuropathy and 2 years later with a benign form of NHL or paraproteinemia / Waldenstrom's (exact diagnosis was never completely clear but bone biopsy allowed him to get Rituxan) He had 2 years of steady IVIG treatment followed by 2 full rounds of single dose (not double) Rituxan. Neither helped much.

His disability remained fairly steady from 2007 to 2011 - difficulty walking, fatigue, numbness (toes to knees & hands), ataxia, no pain, proprioceptor nerve damage, sensory nerve damage, and likely later axional damage. He has required use of a powerchair most of the time but can manage walking short distances with a rollator. Cognitive functions are intact.

Now, however, he seems to be developing neurogenic bladder retention problems. We fear it might be related to his neurological problems. Our University of Washington neurologist predicted possible (in a certain % of patients) problems with the diaphragm but not bladder/bowel issues.

Now soon to be 79, we would like to compile information that has never been available to us about long term impact of AntiMAG IgM. We hope that it will serve as a guide to others with this disease, helping them plan their lives and activities more effectively.

To this end, we appreciate updates here from all AntiMAG IgM people regarding their ages, gender, symptom onset and progression, treatments and contact with other AntiMAG IgM people who might want to add their information here.

As much as we appreciate support and contact from people affected with other forms of CIDP, etc., we would prefer to reserve this post to people specifically diagnosed with, or who wonder about having AntiMAG IgM.

Thanks to you all!
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Hi Lisa -Your story is similar to mine. I was diagnosed in March of 2009 with WM. Had 8 rounds with Rituxan. No help. I am now dealing with severe PN that is moving up my legs into the back of my thighs. My onco/hema says there is no way it is related to my IgM issue as the levels are too low (537 at this time). What I research says differently. I have an appointment with my family doctor in 2 weeks to discuss what step to take next. My Oncologist says I need to go to a university hospital to have this PN looked at to see what is causing it. I too am 48 and a female.
I am thinking a second opinion is needed as far as IgM issue. I may go to the University of Washington in Seattle for a workup. It all gets so confusing when you are outside the box with diseases.
Just wanted to let you know there is someone else in your similar situation. Diane
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Granacki, this post is to you and any others out there with AntiMAG IgM.

In 2007, Granack posted a question seeking out others with AntiMAG neuropathy, but did not mention whether it was IgM, IgG or other related. Now, it is 2012. From you and from any other's with AntiMAG IgM, I am wondering how you are doing, how your symptoms have or have not progressed, and what treatments you have had.

My husband's symptoms began in 2001 at age 68. In 2005 was diagnosed with CIDP variant - AntiMAG IgM polyneuropathy and 2 years later with a benign form of NHL or paraproteinemia / Waldenstrom's (exact diagnosis was never completely clear but bone biopsy allowed him to get Rituxan) He had 2 years of steady IVIG treatment followed by 2 full rounds of single dose (not double) Rituxan. Neither helped much.

His disability remained fairly steady from 2007 to 2011 - difficulty walking, fatigue, numbness (toes to knees & hands), ataxia, no pain, proprioceptor nerve damage, sensory nerve damage, and likely later axional damage. He has required use of a powerchair most of the time but can manage walking short distances with a rollator. Cognitive functions are intact.

Now, however, he seems to be developing neurogenic bladder retention problems. We fear it might be related to his neurological problems. Our University of Washington neurologist predicted possible (in a certain % of patients) problems with the diaphragm but not bladder/bowel issues.

Now soon to be 79, we would like to compile information that has never been available to us about long term impact of AntiMAG IgM. We hope that it will serve as a guide to others with this disease, helping them plan their lives and activities more effectively.

To this end, we appreciate updates here from all AntiMAG IgM people regarding their ages, gender, symptom onset and progression, treatments and contact with other AntiMAG IgM people who might want to add their information here.

As much as we appreciate support and contact from people affected with other forms of CIDP, etc., we would prefer to reserve this post to people specifically diagnosed with, or who wonder about having AntiMAG IgM.

Thanks to you all!
My Husband was dx with AntiMag IgM at age 64 in 2010. This was 3 years after having a severe case of shingles on his R flank area. His PMD thought his R leg weakness and numbness in his foot was a post herpetic nerve issue. There never was any pain. After 3 years he got up one morning and fell down he had no feeling in R foot and ataxia. We immediately went to a neurologist and after MRI and lots of lab work. The dx was made when everything was negative except Antimag IGM titers. We were referred to Mt Sinai in New York to see Dr Simpson a neurologist specializing in neuropathies. He took one look at my husband reviewed the lab work and electrophysiology tests done on his legs and arms and said your only choice of treatment is Rituxin. In July 2011 he had 4 single weekly doses of Rituxan. We just went for his 8 month visit post therapy for another electrophysio test. There has been no improvement BUT no progression of his symptoms. We are now going to go back to Mt Sinai and review a plan of care based on these facts. I would like to keep you informed on progress. My husband is 66 still drives and works part time 3 days a week. Everyone says the shingles had nothing to do with triggering the autoimmune response in his body but who really knows. We had to pay for the Rituxan ourselves but I work at a hospital and was able to get the medication at their cost STILL very expensive. This was not covered by insurance because the FDA does not approve this drug for this dx. I will keep you informed of our next step. Good luck to your husband also.
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Hi-
New to this site...I have peripheral neuropathy...almost 2 years...had a brief episode about 2 years before that that resolved...my neurologist says "that's wierd, very rare..." EMG shows mixed, elevated RF, sed rate, pretty much everything else neg...until neurologist tells me on the next round of bloodwork...go ahead and add whatever you want on there...so I do my homework...deductive reasoning, take a guess and go for anti-mag...comes back positive. Review the medical literature....not a lot out there...the lab test says anything between 1 and 999 is positive. Mine's a 139...but I've read (and seen on here) about numbers in the thousands...does the number really make a difference? Also, where are good places to go for care? I'm in New Mexico, bad for care for this...should I go back to Boston, Johns Hopkins...I don't know what to do...Thanks, peripheral neuropathy is the PITTS!
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I'm a 75 year old male and have had Anti-MAG demyelinating polyneuropathy for probably eight or nine years. It began with a numbness in my feet. I became aware of it trying to walk on beaches while hunting. My balance was poor. I began losing weight, mainly muscle. It was at this point that I was diagnosed with neuropathy. My neurologist put me on Cytoxin, which seemed to arrest it for awhile. Lately my balance problem returned with a vengeance.
I just returned from a visit to a neurologist at Virginia Mason, who told me after some tests that my neuropathy is quite bad. I walk now with the aid of a cane. He told me of a controlled study for Rituximab that concluded it is an effective treatment in patients with A-MAG-DP and suggested I consider it. Any benefits only last a year and, as one posting mentioned, it is so expensive I'm not sure my insurance will go for it. I'm trying to make up my mind whether to give it a try. Sometimes I have pain but for the most part the neuropathy's effect has been on strength and mobility.
I also have been seeing neurologists at Virginia Mason in Seattle. I've had anti-MAG neuropathy for over 10 years and finished a round of Rituxan back in Dec. 2011. I've not had any benefitso far, so may be one of the "non-responders". I have serious ataxia & hand tremors, so I am limited in what I can do (and have frequent falls). How are you managing?
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Does anyone here have other autoimmune diseases or blood disorders? I've lived with pain and weird neurological symptoms for many years. Was dx'd with Fibromyalgia until almost 2 years ago. I had a super high ANA, and positive SSA.They now think I have Sjogren's and maybe Lupus, but don't seem very anxious to confirm anything. The Neuro that tested for anti-MAG thought I had SFN, but the NVC and skin biopsy were neg.

I already take prednisone and plaquenil, etc., for symptom relief, but all my symptoms keep getting worse anyway. I seem to be getting weaker, especially shoulders and arms, but left leg too. Also think I am having some kind of tremors, and I feel sick all over just about every day.

My Rheumy suspected Hemochromatosis last year and sent me to a hematologist/oncologist. Didn't Dx me with it, but I go for annual labs in a week. I'm getting anxious to go because I keep thinking that to feel this bad I must have cancer.

I just really wish I knew more about what to expect. Seems we all have different histories, symptoms, but maybe we can still help each other.
Has anyone improved? If so, how? Anyone with other auto-antibodies? Anyone get cancer?
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I've been meaning to post something here for some time now, but have been waiting for something positive to share. As of yet, I have nothing productive to report as regards to anti-mag igm neuropathy, which is my present diagnosis. I have a strong medical background as well as integrative knowledge. I've been to a couple of international symposiums on autoimmune diseases and demyelinating neuropathies. My perception and/or experience tells me that IGIV, prednisone, and rituximab have little chance of helping anti-mag patients. On the alternative side of things, the perception that the immune system is based in the gut, would lead one to hope that supplements such as probiotics, glutamine, DGL, aloe, green tea, etc. might help. One might also suppose that avoiding those foods, dyes, herbs, etc. that sensitize your immune system such as gluten, dairy, ... might be advisable. Alcohol is a neurotoxin of sorts- limitation advisable? Alpha-lipoic -neuroprotective. Co-Q-10- potentially neuroregenerative? Fats in diet and omega-3 to provide raw material for myelin? I thought that by now I'd happen upon something helpful- been trying real hard for almost a year. I feel that my progression is fast- seems on a daily basis I lose more feeling and balance in feet and legs. Fingers constantly tingling with handwriting affected. Am presently pursuing mind-body connection - some really interesting books on the subject. Have not seen anyone mention pursuing treatment with a functional medicine physician- looks for a cause and reason for what's happening- not just hanging a label on what you've got and handing you a drug or prescription. Have to have a genetic predisposition for this to have happened- I believe it's the trigger that sets it off that is key to understanding it all. When and if I finally stumble upon that elusive unknown that might help one or more of us, I'll be sure and let you know. My best to all of you- I know EXACTLY what it feels like- both physically and emotionally.
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