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Old 10-09-2006, 04:28 PM #1
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Default Need some opinions guys.

Yesterday i went to work and I had not slept again, but it was worse because I actually had to attend an all day lecture in the city. So I had not slept,felt jittery,shaky,extreme fatigue,cold,poor concentration,whole body hurt from lack of sleep. I was fighting to stay awake. I swung around corner at a tea break to the chemist,and my BP was 167/98. Even though on my meds. When the cuff was inflating, ususally it inflates up to 165, and then starts to deflate. Yesterday it inflated past 250 and started deflating?? I am wondering why it did that. I also want to know from others who have BP challenges, does insomnia and fatigue make your BP rise up, even though I am on meds and it's fairly well controlled.

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Isn't there something the doctor can prescribe for you so you can get some sleep? Like Ambien, or Lunesta, or maybe xanax (that's what Alan takes before bedtime).

I mean, you gotta sleep, especially if you work during the day!!! Imsomnia sucks big time!!!!!!

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Default Hi Mel

Does Alan have insomnia? Does he need the xanax everynight? What happens if he does not take it? Does he have BP issues if he doesn't sleep?


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I have found the new Ambien CR helps me sleep the night through. Have never had too much trouble getting to sleep but but staying asleep was something else. Ambien CR has remedied that problem. Note: I don't have a chronic sleep problem but it's nice to know there is something that helps when it's needed. If staying asleep is a problem this med is certainly worth trying.
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Default Sleep Disturbance

I have a chronic sleep disturbance and have for years. I don't sleep at all. I find that Ambien CR puts me to sleep immediately and I sleep well for the time I do sleep. I usually sleep about 5 hours with one pill. Then I have to get up put gel in my eyes and mouth and then I take 1/2 of a regular Ambien. I sleep about another 4 hours with that. I've been doing this for over a year. I wake up easy in the morning and don't feel drugged.

I was told by a wise old doctor that the body cannot do without sleep. The sleep period is the time that it heals. This time is particularly important when you have a chronic illness. Speak to your doctor about your problem. It is important to your health and sanity.

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Default For Dan and Silverlady

Thank you for posting. May I ask you Silverlady why you don't sleep at night? Do you actually know the reason? I went to chemist today to get some over the counter sleeing tablets,and chemist told me to try Melatonin. It's some homeopathic formula to dissolve under tongue. My doctor is away on holiday leave for 3 weeks. So I have to wait 3 more weeks to see him so I can get Ambien or something that's needing a prescription.

The chemist also said 2 months is more than enough time for a person on a Tryciclic to return to their normal sleep patterns,and I should not be experiencing this withdrawel from Tryciclic anymore. Do you guys agree that I should have returned to normal sleep by now??
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Lightbulb Dear Aussie...

I think we broached this subject once before?

Anyway, all of your listed side effects can be due to the beta blocker
you are taking. Cold extremities, insomnia, fatigue (slower heart rate gives poor aerobic capacity), poor concentration and depression.

Here is a website--
http://www.druginfonet.com/index.php...a_Blockers.htm
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Aussie--If your antidepressant was helping with sleep, was it stopped for another reason? Because the impression I have from your first post is that you were doing fine until then. If so, would it be reasonable to request to go back on it? Getting a good's night's sleep is so important to our health, that insomnia really should be taken seriously. If you have a hard time falling asleep, staying asleep, or wake up early---these are all a bit different.

But in general, most people get help from Ambien, and Ambien CR if they wake in the middle of night helps others. Some people benefit from meds which deepen sleep---a little bit of Elavil, or Trazodone, and some people do benefit from Melatonin--though most of them are probably not pn-ners.
Also, if people are worried about being tired the next day, a daytime dose of Provigil, which improves wakefulness, can take the intense anxiety out of worrying about falling asleep, and make the need for sedatives less.

I myself have had a wicked week with sleep, and hope it eases by the time I have my next drs appointment, next week. After taking one dose of oxycontin 20mg for pain at night, I developed myoclonus as it wore off. For the entire week since then I've been waking in the middle in the night with restless, jerky legs. Sometimes my leg kicks on its own, sometimes it's just so restless I have to get up. Last night I didn't get more than an hour of clear sleep in a row without awakening restless. I've never heard of this kind of problem after taking a paiin-killer, yet that seems to be what started it. I'm just praying it eases off, like a withdrawal syndrome. I've take Klonopin and Ativan without much success.
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LizaJane ironically I also experience leg jerks with Oxycontin. And hypnotic jerks too. I always thought it was very strange as well. It does go away, so hang in there.

It is true I was doing very well with my Tryciclic,and when I stopped it I started having problems like,rebound anxiety,panic, & insomnia. I stopped taking it because I developed problems with my jaw. I would be talking to someone or yawning or chewing,and my jaw would slam shut abruptly,and my upper and lower teeth would collide, and grind. This would go on all day. My neuro said it was probably a side-effect of this medication, and I was worried that it would get worse.

Yesterday my chemist told me that I should no longer experience insomnia,as a result of the tryciclic,and something else is going on. So I got a bit worried. I have tried to tackle this insomnia on my own,and to try to ride it out, but it's causing my body alot of physical stress and making me more ill. I have an appoinment tomorrow with another doctor that I have seen in past who hopefully will prescribe something that will help me.

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