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Old 01-14-2014, 05:52 PM #11
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Well, cats do that anyway. Weezie sings high pitched songs for us to get up in the morning. She starts around 5am... weeeeoooooo! eeeeeooooo eee uuuu!
eeeiiiiiioooooo!

The two of them play mostly with each other, at night. We call it rumble now, since both are large. When Maya was smaller Weezie was careful about hurting her. Now it is slam bam wrestling.
If Maya has one of her plastic spring toys, she bams into walls and everything!

Then when they get elderly there is the old cat howling in the night thing. And if they catch a mouse(which is not often) ...much howling with that too. Back when I used curlers in my hair (remember those?)...we had a black cat--Charlie cat--- who would steal them from the bucket I kept them in in the bathroom and carry them around the house howling.
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And also there are socks, which sometimes stand in for mice or prey, and need to be dragged all over with lots of howling too. LOL

You know Lara we discovered that Weezie really likes having her kibble upstairs at night. It reduced the vocalizing quite a bit. Not completely, but quite a bit. When she was a tiny kitten we started the upstairs little flat dish, and she expects it now... keeping some food near you, in a spot where you won't trip over it, might silence your kitty. Also the springs (cat toys) are highly favored here, and keep Maya busy quite a bit. When the kitty bats it they really MOVE and they can be carried about and snagged with a nail. All good skills for mousing.
Just search plastic springs cat toy in Google.

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This is a photo of them... these wide types are better than others.
Maya loves these!
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Sorry I call her "kitty" as a generic word. She's actually 14 but acts like a kitten. The vet couldn't believe she was that age. She's a tree climbing hunter who has a penchant for chasing the dogs who are walking their owners past the fence. She never catches birds thank goodness, but if she lived on a farm she'd be in her element catching mice that's for sure.

Funny story when I saw the doctor about my poisoned thumb and he suggested that if I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the loo then I should take one of my antibiotics, just to keep up the 6 hourly thing. I responded that I don't need to get up but my cat wakes me up on the dot of 1.30am so that she can go to the loo. He just gave me a wry smile.

Thanks for leaving that site again. I'd seen it once or twice before but I hadn't saved it. Cheap toys too and some great ideas and reviews. Thanks again.
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LOL. Your cat , Lara goes to the loo with you????

Both of ours do this with me too. Weez used to go with
Me as a kitten. From the moment we brought her home she
Had to be with me. She slept with me every night and got up
with me too. I thought it was just her! Our other cats didn't do
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Well yes, she follows me. She doesn't use the toilet of course!

She'll use her kitty litter if it's set up or else she goes outside and then she'll come back in only to do the same thing an hour later.

Her routine follows mine, apart from wanting to be awake half the night. If I go to bed, she'll go to bed. If I go outside, she'll go outside. She's always watching me with half closed eyes or an half closed eye! It all seems a little creepy sometimes.
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I think it's neat how cats can recognize different car sounds. She'll come out of her nest in the garden and be waiting at the door before I get around the corner. There is a LOT of traffic here too, but she knows when I'm almost home.

She's quite obsessed with me in fact. She became very depressed when our other cat was killed by a dog over the back fence at a place we lived some years back. She was the most beautiful little Himalayan/Persian cross with the sweetest temperament I've ever come across. So then after she came through the depression she replaced her with me. Me being the submissive one and she the dominate one. lol I don't remember the last time I had a full night's sleep. I haven't slept through since I had children and here I am with a cat that has the same behaviour. She'll outlive me that's for sure. So tiring.
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Maybe she needs a kitten to occupy her?

Bombay cats have this intense devotion too.
Weez has that devotion thing and the fur and
body type of Bombays.

You could try some prey type play with
Her. Also put a small article of your clothing
in her sleeping spot.

But I think a feline friend may be the solution.
Our late Tippy became clingy on me after old
Sheba died -- 20 yrs they were together.
Tippy died soon after that of a stroke..and I
think it was a grief reaction.

edit to add: Maya also will follow me to the loo. If I get up from a chair I'll say... mama is going pee pee, and she will then follow me and use the litter box I keep in that
bathroom!

Playing games with your cat before you retire for sleep, may help because she may be frustrated and not have an outlet for prey and hunting. I have several games for Maya where she follows a string, uses her springs, I shoot the discs and we do a bitebite thing with a stick under a towel. Once she bites the towel for a few minutes she goes and takes a NAP. We have not kept a cat inside 100% before...but since Houdini disappeared (very painful for US)...I decided to keep this feral inside. At first it was pretty easy as she is a fraidy cat. But now she is trying to escape. So I am going to have to do something. Maybe the training on a leash will work? Houdini was feral too...and our first. She disappeared after a month of my usual training outside. Someone may have let her in and kept her (our Vet thinks this happened)...but I don't think I could stand another loss like this.
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I had one of the world's only retrievers that never figured out what a ball was for.
We also (must be lucky) had one of the only cats who never figured out what mice were for. She'd play with a catnip filled toy, but if there were a real mouse in the kitchen (1st fixer-upper house) she'd just sit there and watch it run around. Mice could run right up to her and she'd just sit there and watch them—never made a move. Talk about yer stupid pets...

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Cats need to be taught by their mothers. And a second thing, is that some cats really respect the home and the humans more than you think.

Our late Oreo was an amazing hunter! She caught everything. Once they were inside however, she often lost the nerve, and we had to deal with it if they were still alive...we have 2 nets for this purpose, which are lying fallow now.
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Something about the "prey" being inside means it belongs to the humans now???

We gave Maya a dead mouse Weezie had caught outside (Weez does not eat them). Maya was on the screened in back porch and boy did she react to that mouse. Growling, carrying it around, licking it, etc. After about a half hour hubby took it away... as she lost interest. She sure reacted to that! Maya also likes feathers. Sometimes we find an exploded bird--- hawk handiwork-- near the bird feeder, and we bring the nicest ones in. Maya had 2 of these feathers for over a week. She LOVED them.

I think cats that come from highly indoor or domesticated lines, are less smart about prey. The ones we've adopted from stray mothers, or these 2 ferals...are very very different.

So I don't think it is exactly being dense or stupid...I think it might be blunted instincts because of heredity or lack of experience. Weez has become a moderate hunter outside, but does not eat her catch. She brings it home for us to admire.
She really liked the pigmy shrews upNorth.... they are fast and a challenge!
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Speaking of catnip, you both probably know already that there is a catnip gene? Just as only some people have the "asparagus" genetic traits, only some cats have the catnip gene.
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This cat has the catnip gene. She really gets "high" from it. I used to have a plant but now I just have the toys. I keep it around to try to make her less hyperactive. It does relax her, but not enough. lol

My experience with the cats I've known in my lifetime is the same, mrsD. My Himalayan and my Himalayan/Persian didn't chase living creatures. They loved to play, but were not at all interested in hunting. All the others who came from the pound were abandoned and kittens of stray cats I figure. This cat will actually alert us to things in the house. Giant Huntsmen especially. lol

mrsD, it's really hard to keep a cat inside all the time. Hard work. Once they get a sniff of what's out there and zoom. Sadly that's what happened to our little Isis, the Himalayan/Persian too.

There are those harness leads. I've seen them for dogs. That might work well if you're starting young.

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Catnip! LOL

Weez is addicted to this... she begs for it. She even opened a pop top container last month. So we bought a new "organic" one in a small screw top jar. I can say, go to your bag....(her paper bag from the store where we put some into it)...and she will leave the room way ahead of me and sit on it waiting for the Catnip!

Maya on the other hand is not hot for it yet, even though she is now adult. The first time we had Catnip, she scrinched up her whole face in the funniest grimace and ran away into another room. Never have I seen a face expression like THAT ....LOL

So thanks for that info, Lara...she must lack the gene. She comes from a very different far away gene pool...too. She is from upNorth, which is hundreds of miles away. I think down here most the cats may be distantly related to each other by now.
So we adopted from up there...and certainly Maya is very different in many other ways too...behavior wise. She has quite big feet still, and flips them when she walks, like a lion does.
She is also very vocal... she has some sounds we have never heard before. She throws her voice like a ventroliquist and it echos in a strange way sometimes. Her upset voice is eh! eh! eh!... When we came home from a vet visit-- she ran around everywhere making the eh eh eh sound. I was worried she was having a vaccine reaction...(Tippy used to have those reactions and would become like that too when we got home from rabies shots). But this time Maya was just venting, I guess. Maya makes the eh eh eh sounds to tell us about Weezie needing help or to come in. (Maya stays on the screened porch when Weeze goes outside sometimes. We only let Weezie out in daylight because of the coyote warnings we have now.)

So my experience with other past kitties, really only helped in a minor way, with Maya growing up. I had to learn Maya-speak! LOL
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I trained our kitty to sit and stay. I did it to prevent spills at feeding time, when she would rush my hand and bump it, causing me to spill food all over. It only took a few days of repeating it. Now I just say "sit" or ask "What does a good kitty do?" and she sits down to be fed. It also comes in handy because we have to give her medication twice a day.
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