[dshue]

I chimed in on the thread re; massage, and how beneficial it was for me, giving me some relief, albeit for only hour or so.

I didn't want to go to a spa, and it took awhile through one of my doctors to find a theraputic massage setting. Alas, it was part of a chiropractic practice.

For me, chiropractors are quacks. I've no respect for their endeavors (dentists mock their MCAT scores). But after seeing the massage therapist for a few weeks, which I was paying for, I was informed I needed to see one of the chiropractors for insurance purposes.

So I had a consultation, where I started to go in to detail about the horrors of my nervous system, but the guy had no idea what I was talking about. Before this, the first red flag was that all the doctors were called by their first name, as in 'Dr. Ken'. Seriously.

He wanted to 'just take a look at me' as part of the consultation, which was right before my scheduled massage. Sure, but I said don't do anything, as there was a danger here.

Like an idiot, I laid on my stomach on his table - why, I still don't know - and he did one of his cracking/pulling moves, causing instant, intense pain. My angry 'What are you doing?' stopped any further chiropractic benefits acruing, and I was left with burning, a conflagration in the base of my spine.

That was four weeks ago. The pain has gone down maybe a notch since then, and now I've had to add a healthy dose of methadone every day to the pile of daily pills.

My question (pardon the rambling) is, has anyone had anything like this, feckless chiropractors causing a flare (I hope it's just a flare), and if so, for how long?

OK, thanks.

-- Dennis

[SBOWLING]

I disagree with your comment about Chiropractors being quacks. Your experience was not a good one. However, there are bad doctors in any line of medicine.

I have full body RSD/CRPS 9 years now. My chiropractor was the first doctor to say RSD. I have been seeing him 3 sometimes 5 days a week (5 if I'm flaired). I don't use narcotics on a regular basis. He is an activator doctor and doesn't use his hands to adjust me. One of the RSD experts in Philly said the best thing I do for myself is see a chiropractor.

My dentist see's a chiropractor as does my pain managment doctor. Your experience was not good that doesn't mean they are all bad. Like I said earlier there are bad doctors in any line of medicine.

I hope you find relief soon,
Sherrie

[bassman]

I have to agree with Sherrie. Like you, I always felt that Chiropractors were quacks. To hear someone claim that they can fix internal organ diseases by adjusting your frame is simply unconceivable.

Then, my wife had a legitimate need to see one – she had a spine that was out of alignment – and she went to a Chiropractor recommended by our Internist. This Chiropractor is wonderful. She practices a gentle method of chiropractic treatment. That is, no cracking and yanking.

I went to see her when I had some shoulder pain and she spent quite a bit of time discussing my over-all condition. Not only did she know more about RSD than many “real” doctors I have run into, but she also went out of her way to do some more research so she could know how to treat me.

After several visits, she finally told me that there was nothing more that she could do. I appreciate her honesty and for stating up front that there are limits to what a Chiropractor can do. How refreshing to find a doctor who knows his/her limits and will admit to them.

Don’t give up on the entire field of chiropracty

Mike

[mrsD]

I think that if one is going to choose a chiropractor, it is best to find one that other doctors, and other medical professionals use.

That is what I did when I dislocated my knee. I went to a young woman with a great reputation, and only had 4 visits which not only fixed my acute knee pain but also helped a spot at T12.
The knee needed other work, because of swelling so I went to an orthopedic sports med who checked with MRI the ligaments and for cysts. But the realigning of the knee was a dramatic improvement!

My doctor will not allow neck manipulations at all. So I just told the chiro this and she said "fine".

I think there are good ones and not so good ones. You have to be choosy IMO.

[Chemar]

my son's Tourette Syndrome has benefited greatly from chiropracty, and after my husband's car accident, chiro with specialized massage really helped relieve much pain. He does have disc herniations and so the chiro was exceptionally careful in any of those areas

I had a shifted atlas vertebra and suffered bad headaches and neck/back pain and careful chiropractic care resolved it for me

we use NUCCA certified chiros only (www.nucca.org)

I agree that, as in ALL branches of medical/health practice, there are good and not so good docs

sorry you got a bad one and hope your pain eases......

but IMHO it's a bit extreme to call a recognized branch of healthcare, that many can attest to helping them, "evil" or "quack"

[Jomar]

I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience.

Some places with a large group of PT's & DC's tend to cross refer I think.

There are really good DC's out there but you have to ask around and check them out to be sure of their expertise and skill levels.
Some have that special touch and are very helpful.

I hope your pain resolves without any extra problems.

[hopeful]

Hi Sherrie,
I am from right outside Phila and have been thinking about a chiroprator. Is your in Phila? Do you mind sharing their name?
Hopeful

Originally Posted by SBOWLING

I disagree with your comment about Chiropractors being quacks. Your experience was not a good one. However, there are bad doctors in any line of medicine.

I have full body RSD/CRPS 9 years now. My chiropractor was the first doctor to say RSD. I have been seeing him 3 sometimes 5 days a week (5 if I'm flaired). I don't use narcotics on a regular basis. He is an activator doctor and doesn't use his hands to adjust me. One of the RSD experts in Philly said the best thing I do for myself is see a chiropractor.

My dentist see's a chiropractor as does my pain managment doctor. Your experience was not good that doesn't mean they are all bad. Like I said earlier there are bad doctors in any line of medicine.

I hope you find relief soon,
Sherrie

[Abbie]

If it weren't for my Chiropractor I would no longer be here... he helps to keep the pain low.

My Chiropractor is also Board Eligible in Neurology. He prefered Chiropractic over the big bucks of Neurology... he loves what he does and is constantly taking courses to stay up to date in both fields.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Just know that not all Chiropractors are quacks.


Abbie

[SBOWLING]

Hi Hopeful,

Sorry I live outside of Cincinnati OH. I traveled to Philly for a couple of years for treatments by Dr. Schwartzman.
Take care,
Sherrie

[hopeful]

HI, I am currently getting the ketamine treatments. Suppose to have my last one in Nov insurance decided to refuse payment now. Did you get a lot of relief from them? I have gotten some but it seems to come back pretty quickly.
Hopeful:

Originally Posted by SBOWLING

Hi Hopeful,

Sorry I live outside of Cincinnati OH. I traveled to Philly for a couple of years for treatments by Dr. Schwartzman.
Take care,
Sherrie