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allentgamer 09-25-2009 12:50 AM

You all are soooo cool! We are so much in the same boat LOL. I read everyone's posts and could have written almost every line when it comes to pain, paranoid feelings, anxieties, etc LOL!!

I bet it is the same when you all read these too. :grouphug:

One of the things I cant stress enough is dont mess around with your pain medication dosages. Like taking less without talking with your doctor. The withdrawals are not fun, and I wouldnt want anyone to go through any discomfort they dont have to. It took me 3 months before I even felt anything I could call normal, and the first month was something that I could only compare to a type of hellish near death experience. So please make sure you talk to your docs, they can work with you making it withdrawal free if that is your goal.

I think everyone will find their own path to dealing with this pain we call RSD, and medication has it's place. So again im not trying to talk anyone out of their pain meds. What happened to me was something God had planned for me. He knew I could handle it, otherwise it would have been different.....I think LOL. I do know I came out of this stronger than I was before, and with a sense of purpose like never before.

With something to share with my RSD family. He knows where we are, and he is right there with you. Did you read what I said...He IS right there with you. He didnt heal me, he gave me a peace in knowing he is right here making a way.

One of the things that work for me, imahotep uses, and it works so well. I call it pain distraction LOL
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I think everyone who his sick and disabled needs to find passtimes to occupy himself. Even things that can be done on bad days if possible. The internet is a lifesaver for me but I also have a sedentary hobby which can provide enjoyment everyday. My current research is fascinating stuff and keeps me occupied for hours on end.
Plus there is this one nagging thing we all share....

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I need to work again, cause I need to find purpose in my life. I know that I have so much to offer I'm just not sure how to go about getting started. Any suggestions would be welcome.
I have a suggestion :)

Since we all are on the same page, and it seems we all have some good talent. Plus we all know our limitations LOL! We should look at putting together an online biz.
Most groups come together to organize some type of awarness group. Well thats all cool and everything, but we could use our disabilities as a real marketing tool. All we need to do is find what biz. :p

CZZ74 09-25-2009 05:33 AM

MsL, this so interesting
 
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Originally Posted by Mslday (Post 570455)
Allen I really admire what you have done too, it must have been very difficult for you to come off the drugs you had been on. You should be very proud of yourself and I'm sure your family is too.

I think there's a lot to be said about this approach. There is a study posted on the RSDSA.org site about this very situation where they found that pain patients who had been on high doses of opiates had significant reductions in their pain levels after they detoxed.
Author: Baron MJ, McDonald PW
Title: Significant pain reduction in chronic pain patients after detoxification from high-dose opioids
Source: J Opioid Manage. 2006;2:5:277-281.


Because of my allergies to many medications I'm on very little. My first line of defence is my Lidocaine infusions; they seem to keep me relatively stable. All I seem to be able to handle orally is daily ibuprofen, 400 mg 3 times a day with food and Tylenols 3.as needed. I hesitate to take a Tylenol 3 but do so if my pain flairs above 5. Failing that if the pain is getting out of control my last line of defence is to take an oxycontin but 5 mg will knock me out so I have to go to bed but it usualy helps calm things down. Breathing and heat application are also big time pain relievers for me.

When I was first diagnosed with this I was put on all the usual drug cocktails and I didn't know if I was coming or going. I have a very close friend who is a physician and when he first learned about my diagnosis he rightfully cautioned me against taking most of the drugs that were being prescribed in such a shot gun approach. I should have listened to him but I always hoped there would be something out there to help me. I’ve never found anything to help with the deep bone pain I experience. Mind you the pamidronate infusion I had did make that subside for a while, only problem was that it caused an explosive motor sound in my head that caused hearing damage and tinnitus, they tell me it’s only been reported in 1 other patient in the world.

Today I went to buy my cane. I realize that the longer I put this off the worse it will be for me because I’ve really thrown out my hip and my back with my bad gait favouring my left foot/leg. I’ve always hesitated to use a cane because I fear being labelled disabled. There we go…it’s that fear thing again. At least I managed to find a fairly snazzy little number that will compliment many outfits :wink:

I’m not having a pity party. No, I know it could and can be much worse and while many of you struggle to just get out of bed each day I can’t tell you enough how much I admire your spirit, enduring courage and kind hearts. I just need to re-frame my thinking about this.



Hi CZ, I can so relate to this comment you made cause I do that too, all the time. I always suck it up to make things as normal as possible and hate to complain. I always end up paying for it big time. My husband and I are living in different cities right now because of his work and I totally crashed emotionally and physically when he first left. I didn't realize how much I over compensate and hide my pain until I was left on my own to just be me and have my own time.

Now that I have my cane I feel a bit relieved in a way. It feels like I’ve been afraid to admit my RSD diagnosis, been in a form of denial I guess.


I hope you are all doing ok tonight.

MsL

MsL, this is so interesting, Im glad you are using your cane, alot can happen to the other side of your body by postponement. MsL, your current situaltion affords me the opportunity to ask some questions about mine, I hope you dont mine.
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It feels like I’ve been afraid to admit my RSD diagnosis, been in a form of denial I guess.
This was reversed a bit for me and with my wheelchair, I have to use the wheel chair to go anywhere that requires walking or standing for over 20 minutes or I can not go. My husband would keep saying do you really need your chair?/ over and over , eventually I just didnt go anywhere, My world with my husband has become very small. Different story with my sisters.
We went through this with the cane too,"do you really have to use that". The reason Im sharing all of this is because you too choose to work to be as normal as possible around your husband. I realize your situaltion may be completely different. But my question is have you found you have less pain now that you have the opportunity or situation to be alone and not need to do that? The reason I ask is because after a few days of trying to be normal when my husband is home I often think I wish could just live alone. I feel my acting normal creates so much additional pain for me that its almost intolerabe - Actually I know it does as I'm in bed the whole time my husband is gone recovering. Unless he is gone for two weeks, then by the second week my pain is better because i go at my own speed. SO basically I guess Im trying to find out, is the grass greenier in terms of pain on the other side? thank you so much. cz

CZZ74 09-25-2009 05:38 AM

Brillant Idea Allen
 
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Originally Posted by allentgamer (Post 570533)
You all are soooo cool! We are so much in the same boat LOL. I read everyone's posts and could have written almost every line when it comes to pain, paranoid feelings, anxieties, etc LOL!!

I bet it is the same when you all read these too. :grouphug:

One of the things I cant stress enough is dont mess around with your pain medication dosages. Like taking less without talking with your doctor. The withdrawals are not fun, and I wouldnt want anyone to go through any discomfort they dont have to. It took me 3 months before I even felt anything I could call normal, and the first month was something that I could only compare to a type of hellish near death experience. So please make sure you talk to your docs, they can work with you making it withdrawal free if that is your goal.

I think everyone will find their own path to dealing with this pain we call RSD, and medication has it's place. So again im not trying to talk anyone out of their pain meds. What happened to me was something God had planned for me. He knew I could handle it, otherwise it would have been different.....I think LOL. I do know I came out of this stronger than I was before, and with a sense of purpose like never before.

With something to share with my RSD family. He knows where we are, and he is right there with you. Did you read what I said...He IS right there with you. He didnt heal me, he gave me a peace in knowing he is right here making a way.

One of the things that work for me, imahotep uses, and it works so well. I call it pain distraction LOL
Plus there is this one nagging thing we all share....

I have a suggestion :)

Since we all are on the same page, and it seems we all have some good talent. Plus we all know our limitations LOL! We should look at putting together an online biz.
Most groups come together to organize some type of awarness group. Well thats all cool and everything, but we could use our disabilities as a real marketing tool. All we need to do is find what biz. :p

Quote:

We should look at putting together an online biz.
Allen this is brillant! I'm thinking:) cz

AintSoBad 09-25-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CZZ74 (Post 570569)
MsL, this is so interesting, Im glad you are using your cane, alot can happen to the other side of your body by postponement. MsL, your current situaltion affords me the opportunity to ask some questions about mine, I hope you dont mine.

This was reversed a bit for me and with my wheelchair, I have to use the wheel chair to go anywhere that requires walking or standing for over 20 minutes or I can not go. My husband would keep saying do you really need your chair?/ over and over , eventually I just didnt go anywhere, My world with my husband has become very small. Different story with my sisters.
We went through this with the cane too,"do you really have to use that". The reason Im sharing all of this is because you too choose to work to be as normal as possible around your husband. I realize your situaltion may be completely different. But my question is have you found you have less pain now that you have the opportunity or situation to be alone and not need to do that? The reason I ask is because after a few days of trying to be normal when my husband is home I often think I wish could just live alone. I feel my acting normal creates so much additional pain for me that its almost intolerabe - Actually I know it does as I'm in bed the whole time my husband is gone recovering. Unless he is gone for two weeks, then by the second week my pain is better because i go at my own speed. SO basically I guess Im trying to find out, is the grass greenier in terms of pain on the other side? thank you so much. cz


I just want to say one thing about this, and, I'm sure it's not your situation. It just brought this memory to mind.
Both of my wives knew, but the 2nd, actually had it in her to tell me, very calmly, but for certain in fighting words, "I Can Control You, With Your Pain".

I'm so happy about my divorce.(My sin, was I couldn't love someone who treated me that way). I'm not happy that I might need to give her my entire life, and what I inherited, from my parents entire lives. We all worked together, and Pfffft. It's gone!
(again, Allen knows.)

pete

hopeful 09-25-2009 06:02 PM

Hi Everyone,
You'll probably laugh at this but there are still days that I swear I am going to beat this RSD and be all better one day. I've had other minor illnesses and have always rebounded. My neurologist told me I have to accept the fact that RSD is here to stay. My daughter and many of the friends on this site have told me I need to talk to someone about it. I have been searching but can't find anyone who is familiar with RSD and takes ins. The one Dr who my neurologist reccommended is a physciatrist and wants $450 a session and his office told me he really just sees you one time for an evaluation (medication prescribed) and then it is $125 for 15 mins. for follow-ups. Not what I'm looking for. I am going to keep searching.
I will say that the RSD seems to be getting much worse. I do still work and to tell you the truth I have to. I live in fear now of losing my ability to work. I don't know how we would be able to keep everything we have worked for or even pay our bills.
I do feel like it is headed that way. Well enough complaining. Every now and then I go through these really down times then I pick myself back up again and trudge on.
Hope everyone has a good (low pain) weekend.
Hopeful

Mslday 09-25-2009 09:18 PM

Hi Cz,

It sounds like your husband may have a hard time accepting the diagnosis of your RSD and how it’s affecting your life. It sounds like he’s concerned for you and, probably quite scared too. I don’t know if that’s your situation but men often don’t know how to express those emotions.

I think we often forget just how difficult it can be for our spouses to have to watch us go through what we do, it makes them feel helpless. I'm very fortunate that my hubby supports me as he does and that he encourages me to maintain as normal a life as possible, he also is very understanding and encourages me to rest when it’s clear I’m doing too much.. I think that's healthy for me. After speaking with Dr. Rohr in Germany for 2 hours he has a very deep understanding of what exactly RSD means for me, for him and for our future. There are times when we are walking hand in hand and my pain starts to slow me down, I know he feels my pain and it hurts him too, just in a different way. We do need to talk about it from time to time. I was afraid to tell him I decided to get the cane but when I did he just told me that he hoped I would feel better soon and that it would help relieve the pain.

Since he’s been gone I find it is very hard to do many of the things around the house that he would just do without me even having to ask him. I married a man who happens to have an A type personality, he is focused driven and very active. I miss him very very much.

Any pressure to live as normal as possible really comes from me trying to keep up with him and the fear that if I don’t he will leave me. That fear by the way is totally unfounded and merely a deep rooted insecurity of mine left over from a very dysfunctional family and childhood. I came out of that as a people pleaser; which was very evident during a recent visit of a very close friend who brought her 90 year old mother and husband. The visit was very challenging for me and my pain shot through the roof. There were some very difficult family dynamics between them and they were putting me right square in the middle. It was stressful needless to say. At the end of the visit we were chatting about just how difficult it was for me to entertain now. And my friend said you don’t have to do all that stuff just for us! I replied by stating it’s the way I am, if someone comes to my house I feel obliged to make them feel comfortable, feed them, make everything perfect. I’m the same way with my husband, so in a way I have a bit of a break right now. I can't imagine what it must be like for those of you that have children to care for.

Is my pain any better now that he is away than when he is here? No not really, it still boils down to daily management of my activities and stress. I can be my own worse enemy.

The bottom line is that I put this stress on myself and I pretend things are normal with everyone I meet. Until now I’ve had an invisible disability!

If my friends who know what I’ve been through ask me about my foot & or health, I always underplay the realities of what it’s like to live with this. I always show the bright side because I don’t want people to worry or feel bad.

The grass isn’t greener on the other side; the RSD pain still has a mind of its own. It’s just up to me how I manifest my emotions around all that.

I hope you can talk to your husband about how his coming home affects your pain levels so you can take the pressure of yourself. I’m not so good at this but I am getting better. I’m learning how to say NO and not feel quilty about it. When I can do that it feels great.


I hope your doing well tonight.

MsL

Mslday 09-25-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 570808)
Hi Everyone,
You'll probably laugh at this but there are still days that I swear I am going to beat this RSD and be all better one day. I've had other minor illnesses and have always rebounded. My neurologist told me I have to accept the fact that RSD is here to stay. My daughter and many of the friends on this site have told me I need to talk to someone about it. I have been searching but can't find anyone who is familiar with RSD and takes ins. The one Dr who my neurologist reccommended is a physciatrist and wants $450 a session and his office told me he really just sees you one time for an evaluation (medication prescribed) and then it is $125 for 15 mins. for follow-ups. Not what I'm looking for. I am going to keep searching.
I will say that the RSD seems to be getting much worse. I do still work and to tell you the truth I have to. I live in fear now of losing my ability to work. I don't know how we would be able to keep everything we have worked for or even pay our bills.
I do feel like it is headed that way. Well enough complaining. Every now and then I go through these really down times then I pick myself back up again and trudge on.
Hope everyone has a good (low pain) weekend.
Hopeful

Hi Hopeful.

I love your optimism and honesty because there are days that I feel the same way exactly.

I'm not in therapy either for the exact same reason it's just too bloody expensive. I'd love to find a professional to talk to about this but it's not covered under my insurance here.

Thanks for sharing.

MsL

Mslday 09-25-2009 09:32 PM

Great Suggestion Allen
 
Quote:

I have a suggestion

Since we all are on the same page, and it seems we all have some good talent. Plus we all know our limitations LOL! We should look at putting together an online biz.
Most groups come together to organize some type of awarness group. Well thats all cool and everything, but we could use our disabilities as a real marketing tool. All we need to do is find what biz.
Have any ideas about a the type of business that could work for people like us? I'll put my thinking cap on too.

MsL

CZZ74 09-25-2009 10:29 PM

Pete, thank you
 
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Originally Posted by AintSoBad (Post 570735)
I just want to say one thing about this, and, I'm sure it's not your situation. It just brought this memory to mind.
Both of my wives knew, but the 2nd, actually had it in her to tell me, very calmly, but for certain in fighting words, "I Can Control You, With Your Pain".

I'm so happy about my divorce.(My sin, was I couldn't love someone who treated me that way). I'm not happy that I might need to give her my entire life, and what I inherited, from my parents entire lives. We all worked together, and Pfffft. It's gone!
(again, Allen knows.)

pete

Pete, thank you for sharing this very personal and powerful part of your life. I appreciate it.

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I'm not happy that I might need to give her my entire life, and what I inherited, from my parents entire lives. We all worked together, and Pfffft. It's gone!
I hope this is correct where you are, but spouses get nothing given to you by your parents, nothing.If you had it before your marriage and/or if it was gifted to you during your marriage, they have no right to it. that is the law in lforida. I really hope that applies to where you are. thank you again Pete, cz

allentgamer 09-26-2009 05:22 AM

Hopeful I do the same thing, and that was one of the things that I had a hard time dealing with because of the reality. It always came back to that dumb RSD making it difficult for me to do normal everyday things, how in the world was I going to function at a working pace?

Wasnt going to happen. One thing you did find though......the cheapest therapy in the world! A bunch of people that understand, and will listen, offer their shoulders, and be there anytime you need. :grouphug:

Wow CZ that is interesting, I think that is the law here in California too. I sure hope that is an angle you can take Pete. You are one of the strong ones here, and it is from over coming, but it would be nice to see you get some things that are rightfully yours back.

I do have some ideas on a online biz. Since we are all fairly versed in medical gadgets, we could sell all things RSD/chronic pain and everything that fits with that model. We could use the fact that we are all disabled with RSD as a marketing tool. We could tell our stories to the news about each of us, and how we came to start this biz.

It would do a few things right off the bat.
1. Create awareness of our business
2. Creater awareness of RSD/chronic pain
3.Give us all something to do LOL!

But im open for suggestions too, heck with all the brains in here you never know what we might come up with!


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