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Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS) |
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Check out the youtube link in my first post. It shows how many common tasks are taught.
The Barbara Handelman "clicker train your own service dog" DVD set is about $100 new...you might find it used online... but Barbara is mostly in a wheelchair, and she trains SDs. Being in a chair restricts some things, but not most as far as training. Barbara is on a couple of the forums I PM'd to you - and is more than happy to answer questions. Last edited by daylilyfan; 07-27-2010 at 10:36 AM. Reason: corrected spelling of Handelman |
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It's truly a pleasure to meet you, because the timing couldn't have been better. After years of me getting progressively worse, we knew that and a service dog could make a substantial difference in my daily life, but we didn't know where to start. After talking with my butcher about how labs make great service animals, he told me that he thought my vet of 20 years might be working with some "cell dogs program." I called her up and learned that while our state prison has a program outside St. Louis, MO, we don't have one here in central MO. The vet said she'd get back with me. Last Monday (one week later) I got a call from the vet asking me to call the director of the animal shelter ASAP because there was a meeting scheduled between the prison and the animal shelter. Evidently our prison has been making dogs adoptable, but here they hadn't gone any further. I learned that a satellite program was now being started and that I'm to be their first test case. Yesterday the prison called me up and asked for all our information so they could do a background check. Today at 1 we're meeting at the prison. They've evidently found a 4 month male black lab puppy. Since I've only had cats all my life, I've never been more excited and scared in my whole life. Any information you can share about what I need to do or need to learn would be appreciated more than you'd possibly know. The only thing we'd learned up till now was various shows we'd seen on TV about these service cell dogs programs and how they change not only the lives of the disabled, but also the prisoners and prison guards as well. Such a win-win situation. What organizations or web sites should I visit so I can learn anything and everything about what lies ahead? Because of my disability being rather severe, I'm right now just feeling overwhelmed by it all. It's not just my needs that I care about, but more importantly the way this could help others that has me so excited. Of course I've also got a rather extensive list of questions about how far and what a service dog might be able to help me with, as well as what I'll need to do so I can provide a great life for this dog, but I really don't know where to turn right now. Thanks a million, Bob. Quote:
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Just yesterday my PT told me again to get a service animal. she said a monkey might be better for my needs and to look into it, but at least get a service dog.
my problem is i used to train dogs (shutzhund training)(police dog training,obedience, tracking, protection), and now being bed bound 24 hours a day i have difficulty getting my caregivers dog outside during the day when she is gone so i think i am stuck with purchasing a serviceanimal rather than training. have any of you seen a service monkey at work or know anyone with a monkey? i would also like to know your opinions between a monkey and a dog as far as owning them. what i am trying to say is speak freely about reasons to not get amonkey over a dog. as you can see, i have little knowledge of service monkeys.. daylilyfan, thanks so much for starting this thread. the timing of it is perfect ![]() mike
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Hoping you feel better, ALASKA MIKE ARACHNOIDITIS,CRPStype2/CAUSALGIA since 2004 |
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i did google service monkeys and there are monkey schools to help the disabled but i havent looked in depth on the websites.
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My few experiences with monkeys in the past is they can be quite independent a.k.a. nasty and a bit mean. I'd be more trusting of a dog but heck maybe monkeys can be good service animals, I just never heard of them and assumed they may be hard to train, but why not?
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I only have a minute - but should have more time tomorrow to answer everyone's questions.
First, about the 4 month lab pup - I would not want to get the first dog trained. Even in progams, the percent of failure is 9 dogs fail per one dog placed. You want a dog that has had people with experience working with it. In the next day or so, I'll PM you with some forums that you can join. THere will be someone near you to give you guidance on getting a SD. Can't you get one from the prison who has a training program in place? Also, although most SD are Labs, or Goldens, there are some lines of really nutty high strung Labs. The pups temperment is #1 in priority. About getting a monkey - currently the laws say service animal. But the administration currently in office wants to make some sweeping changes. First on their list is to change the law from service animal to service dog. So, be aware that if they get their way, that dogs will be the only animal allowed. I wonder if the admins would allow me to post links to service dog forums publicly. I know it's a no-no to post links to other forums, but NeuroTalk really has nothing service dog related so it would not conflict. I'd love to post more right now. But, I have to get my symptom report done for SS so I can get it mailed tomorrow. oh - you can train a SD to go on puppy pads. There are people who live alone and have a SD and cannot take them out, and live in apartments or places where they cannot have a doggie door. Also, many people train their dogs to go on puppy pads when traveling, as dog relief areas at airports can be a LONG way for a disabled person to go. If I don't know answers, I can find out. I am thrilled that there is interest here, because a dog can really help you out. IF your interested, make a list of what you have problems doing. Such as, if you can't get up if seated, or need assistance getting in to a wheelchair, you need a good sized dog. If you don't need help with that, a much smaller dog will do. The smaller the dog, the less expensive to feed, vet care, groom, even collars cost less, and the lifetime of a smaller dog is longer than a big dog. I promise - I will be back! |
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Hi! While realizing that this subject is very serious and service animals can be of great benefit to those that have them, I just had to giggle.
After one of my many surgeries, my daughter (she lives in S. Ca) told me that she was so glad that grandma (my mother) was with me so that she could be my "helper monkey". Of course it stuck and grand ma has remained the "helper monkey" ever since then. Just thought you might appreciate the sentiment. Lisa |
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Mike, I just got an email telling me of this update - it is now official. Service animals regulations have changed. Dogs and with some rules, mini horses are the only animals that will be allowed as Service animals. This now excludes monkeys, and other animals. I even know of one woman who uses a small pygmy goat as a pack animal - has it house trained and everything.
Now, this means you could still use a monkey, but you could not take it out in public like you could a dog, and you would not be able to take tax deduction, get from meds, have allowance made in houseing etc. http://www.ada.gov/regs2010/ADAregs2010.htm "On Friday, July 23, 2010, Attorney General Eric Holder signed final regulations revising the Department’s ADA regulations...." "Service animal means any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not service animals for the purposes of this definition. The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the handler's disability. Examples of work or tasks include, but are not limited to, assisting individuals who are blind or have low vision with navigation and other tasks, alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to the presence of people or sounds, providing non-violent protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, assisting an individual during a seizure, alerting individuals to the presence of allergens, retrieving items such as medicine or the telephone, providing physical support and assistance with balance and stability to individuals with mobility disabilities, and helping persons with psychiatric and neurological disabilities by preventing or interrupting impulsive or destructive behaviors. The crime deterrent effects of an animal's presence and the provision of emotional support, well-being, comfort, or companionship do not constitute work or tasks for the purposes of this definition." Last edited by daylilyfan; 07-30-2010 at 08:47 PM. Reason: clarification |
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well that makes the decision easy now.
i sure hope that there was a grandfather clause for the others though... thanks mike Quote:
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