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Old 10-02-2008, 03:05 PM #1
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Thumbs down Health in relation to poverty...

Apologies if this is the wrong place to put this, or if it's deemed inappropriate to put at all, it's just on my mind a lot this week.

82% of folks in this neighborhood are living in poverty. Life expectancy is 7.5 years below the national average. It's takes an average of 2 weeks just to see a doctor for an initial appointment. Anything that isn't covered by the "free" national health service just can't be afforded.

A friend of mine fainted today and I found out it was coz she hadn't eaten all week. Her husband left, after cleaning out the bank account, and things are so bad just now...she felt she had to fore-go food for her 2 kids to eat. For complicated reasons she's not entitled to government assistance for 5 weeks yet and wouldn't ask anyone for help coz most of us have nothing as it is.

It just makes me angry that the U.K. government never do anything realistically helpful to tackle extreme poverty, though it always looks like it on paper. It makes me angry that they would rather just feed people "happy" pills than do anything constructive about the root cause of folks physical and mental health problems in neighborhoods like this.

Apologies if anyone finds this little vent inappropriate or badly explained.

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yeah the two do seem to go hand in hand, unfortuantely its been going on for a long long time,way before days of serfs and fuedal lords
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((weegot5kiz)) thank you for replying, it's been a rough week here...geez i been crying all day and i just don't do that but...the kids growing up here you know?


and yes, i know poverty has always been a problem...and everyone knows poor physical and mental health go hand in hand with it...guess we just feel like none of us matter today.

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KJ, it is hurtful to see this kind of shameful neglect, and so globally absolute. In the states, we seem very interested in international hunger campaigns of all sorts, yet many of your neighbors live right here in my textbook middle-class city (sans the accent).

We have a system here as well and if it's available, it's often abused; and still, there are those who cannot even get that assistance for many odd reasons.

I try to take solace in my faith because God cares and knows every last one. So many of my fellow humans are capable and they do nothing or just enough to let themselves feel "good" at holiday times. Many corporations here sponsor good works but there is never enough for all who need it.

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Cindy...I genuinely apologize if this post seemed to only apply to the U.K. ... I know poverty is a global problem, even in the U.S.

The government assistance programme, and even charity programmes, are frequently abused here too...usually by folks who are well enough off already...leaving the poorest of the poor with no asistance to access as the pot has ben bled dry by fraudulent claims.

We also have corporations here who do as much work as possible in the community and donate vast amounts to on the ground projects. Even if it is just to spite the taxman...lol...is anyone whose only source of food is a soup kitchen really going to argue on motive?

Having said that...many corporations are genuine. A group of city financiers here recently set up a trust fund to help all they genuinely could in the poverty pockets they are surrounded by. They came to this neighborhood and...shame on us..we were genuinely skeptical of them at first but...they have came through for us more than once.

Example: they recently donated $20k to a community project that works with families living in poverty. It has genuinely made a HUGE difference.

It just saddens me that things are in such a mess here...it was nowhere near enough but BLESS THEM for caring and helping!

Thank You SO much for replying to a subject dear to my heart.

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KJ >>.... These are the things that make your Blood >> Pump !! You are a strong Voice >> and This is what I have so ADMIRED about you ..

I have been so many times awe struck >> by your strength , compassion . and get in there and Stand Up for all those you see as a Person >> and not just a statistic or number on some ones doles,.

You are a voice >> Not pushed into the wilderness >> but born from >> you walked the paths that are common as to only those that have been there can follow out from >> and still ,, at the same time help others find >>>... If only the resources were used where they would do the most >>

as you say >> the Kids !!! The Single or abandoned Mothers !! >> The children that should / MUST Have a chance to break away and and >> change their lifes for the better >> and in turn help their siblings Too >> Find Love ....

But that is just It My LOve >> Goverments are as again you have said >> " on paper looks good " >> and when .........

We >> You and I have that place together we WILL >> put the places that work best for us >. OUR HEARTS !! To as we may be afforded >> do the work where ever we be to help the children and the Mothers >> and the Fathers that have the oppurtunity to make a difference in their childrens lifes


KJ >> I know the family unit and working together in that aspect is super important to you >> You always have and to this day >. put yours / and others Kiddies first ....


Ya know ??? [ Roz ] >> KJ ,, As I have said a few times >> and maybe not loud enough ... I AM IN AWE OF Y*O*U* ,,,,

You sometimes seem to think your past will hinder your future >> when in actuality My LOve >> It is your PAST That gives you your wisdom >> and knowledge to >. be a fighter for those that may yet not know they can ... But you teach through your witnessing that all Is POSSIBLE !!!!

WMD , [ Corky ] xoxoxox.

If you even knew >> which I believe you do >> I AM SO HONORED TO KNOW YOU !!!!!!!

you are so LOVED by Many .. !
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ty ((((((((corky))))))) but i really think the honor is all mine, you teach me so much
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