Spinal Disorders & Back Pain For discussion of all spinal cord injuries, spinal issues, back-related pain or problems.


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-28-2012, 01:06 AM #11
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
Default Nobody knows...

Nobody knows the severity of pain until they have had actual spinal CORD surgery/pain. No other pain I have ever felt has been worse, except possibly the CSF leak headache after my last un-tethering.

People tell me all the time "I know so and so who has a bad back..." I stop them-interrupt and say I have a bad back and it's manageable, but it's the spinal CORD damage that is excruciating.They don't listen. They keep on talking telling me how a chiropractor helped them, or exercise, meditation, etc. If I said I had brain damage they might take it as serious as it is, but they do not understand that the spinal cord comes straight from the brain. A tethered cord surgery is as serious and as risky as brain surgery. Not exactly the same as having a laminectomy and a fusion (and I have had that too) from a herniated disk. There is no way to describe the pain to someone who hasn't experienced it. No way...there are no words to describe what it feels like to have your spinal cord cut.

I came out walking after both of my tethered cord surgeries, BUT after each surgery more and more is taken away from me and more pain than a person should have to bear every day of my life. Arachnoiditis is a very real threat to someone whose dura has been ruptured or cut. I came out walking but I will not always be walking even though I have endured four horrid surgeries. I sometimes wish I could go back and learn to accept a chair and live with much less pain.

Think long and hard before you allow that or any epidural steroid shots into your spinal canal which also punctures your dura and can cause arachnoiditis. Every surgery you have creates more scar tissue and more tethering. It's unending.


Quote:
Originally Posted by dorkthecat View Post
i I FEEL YOUR PAIN. I HERNIATED A DISK 3 YEARS SHOVELING SNOW. THREE DAYS LATER I WENT NUMB FROM THE WAIST DOWN. I ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL FOR A FEW DAYS. WHEN I CAME HOME WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF A WALKER AND MY HUSBAND, I WAS ABLE TO GET AROUND A LITTLE. I SLEPT ON THE COUCH FOR 3 MONTHS LIVING ON GABAPENTIN AND TRAMADOL. THIS OF COURSE HAS TAKEN AWAY ALL RELATIONS WITH MY HUSBAND. WE RARELY EVEN SLEEP TOGETHER. I WASN'T DIAGNOSED WITH A TETHERED SPINE FOR A YEAR. MY LEGS ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE, AS ARE MY FEET. THEY BECOME VERY COLD AND TINGLE. I AM STILL NUMB FROM THE WAIST DOWN ALTHO ABLE TO WALK UNTIL I CAN'T TAKE THE BACK AND LEGS ACHING SO BAD. I HAVE TO REST MY LEGS AND I'M TIRED MOST OF THE TIME. I HAD A SMALL LOOKING TYPE RASH ON MY LOWER LEFT SIDE OF MY BACK AFTER THIS HAPPENED, BUT NOW IT IS HUGE WITH BIG PURPLE BLOTCHES. WHEN I WAS FIRST SEEN BY THE MD THAT DIAGNOSED ME, HE SAID THIS WAS A CLASSIC SIGN OF A TETHERED SPINE. DO YOU HAVE ANY MARKING ON YOUR BACK? MY GENERAL MD ASVISED NOT TO HAVE SURGEY AS HE HAS A PATIENT THAT DID HAVE THE SURGERY AND IS NOW A FULL PARAPALEGIC AND IN A NURSING HOME. I GET SO TIRED OF HEARING :I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL" WHEN UNLESS YOU HAVE THE CONDITION, THEY HAVE NO IDEA. I HOPE TO SEE A RESPONSE AND WISH YOU THE BEST DEBRA,,SINCERELY, KATE
ellijaygal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 05-29-2012, 10:54 AM #12
Lindaky Lindaky is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 17
10 yr Member
Lindaky Lindaky is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 17
10 yr Member
Default and the Pain goes ON and On!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ellijaygal View Post
Nobody knows the severity of pain until they have had actual spinal CORD surgery/pain. No other pain I have ever felt has been worse, except possibly the CSF leak headache after my last un-tethering.

People tell me all the time "I know so and so who has a bad back..." I stop them-interrupt and say I have a bad back and it's manageable, but it's the spinal CORD damage that is excruciating.They don't listen. They keep on talking telling me how a chiropractor helped them, or exercise, meditation, etc. If I said I had brain damage they might take it as serious as it is, but they do not understand that the spinal cord comes straight from the brain. A tethered cord surgery is as serious and as risky as brain surgery. Not exactly the same as having a laminectomy and a fusion (and I have had that too) from a herniated disk. There is no way to describe the pain to someone who hasn't experienced it. No way...there are no words to describe what it feels like to have your spinal cord cut.

I came out walking after both of my tethered cord surgeries, BUT after each surgery more and more is taken away from me and more pain than a person should have to bear every day of my life. Arachnoiditis is a very real threat to someone whose dura has been ruptured or cut. I came out walking but I will not always be walking even though I have endured four horrid surgeries. I sometimes wish I could go back and learn to accept a chair and live with much less pain.

Think long and hard before you allow that or any epidural steroid shots into your spinal canal which also punctures your dura and can cause arachnoiditis. Every surgery you have creates more scar tissue and more tethering. It's unending.

I can sympathize with you about the pain of the spinal cord cut! I have had 2 fusions and a tethered cord and am in excruciatiing pain on a daily basis. As you said, you can try your best to describe the pain to people but unless they experience it there is no way they can know what you are feeling. I like you have thought several times I wish I had left things alone and endured the alternative than to be in this pain everyday but then I wonder what it may be like had I done that. I suppose that is something we will not know now that we have gone the other route. I am now having to deal with problems in bth my legs and am not sure what that diagnosis is but it does not look good. My EMG did not come back very promising. Hopefully , I will get some answers on the 12th. I wish you the best and that you will fine some relief from the pain
Lindaky is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 11:04 AM #13
ginnie ginnie is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Anna Maria Island Florida
Posts: 6,278
10 yr Member
ginnie ginnie is offline
Elder
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Anna Maria Island Florida
Posts: 6,278
10 yr Member
Default Re: sending prayers

[Hi ellijay,
I do have extreme compassion for your suffering. Nobody should have to endure that much. I know it is living like you have death pain everyday. I have had two spinal fusions, a number of injections. I will not have anymore, as you are right it is never ending, and with each one there is more and more risk. I am terrified of the very thing you must endure. i wish there was some hope to relieve your suffering to where your quality of life is better. If I cannot get enough pain help, I am not sure exactly what I would do. I am not brave like you are, more of a wimp, but I try hard. You are doing the impossibbel. I pray for you, you will never be forgotten by me. I have a prayer list, and I use it. We are all the human family and we need each other very much. I hope you have peace, and less pain today. ginnie
ginnie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2012, 05:16 PM #14
Dr. Smith's Avatar
Dr. Smith Dr. Smith is offline
Senior Member (**Dr Smith is named after a character from Lost in Space, not a medical doctor)
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lost in Space
Posts: 3,515
10 yr Member
Dr. Smith Dr. Smith is offline
Senior Member (**Dr Smith is named after a character from Lost in Space, not a medical doctor)
Dr. Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lost in Space
Posts: 3,515
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindaky View Post
I like you have thought several times I wish I had left things alone and endured the alternative than to be in this pain everyday but then I wonder what it may be like had I done that. I suppose that is something we will not know now that we have gone the other route.
The other route may also have been worse, and we'll never know that either. Beating ourselves up over past decisions/events that we cannot change is common enough, and hard not to do, but serves no purpose. Borrowing from a Japanese proverb, Fix the problem - not the blame. We can only go forward from now, whatever/wherever "now" is.

Doc
__________________
Dr. Zachary Smith
Oh, the pain... THE PAIN...

Dr. Smith is NOT a medical doctor. He was a character from LOST IN SPACE.
All opinions expressed are my own. For medical advice/opinion, consult your doctor.
Dr. Smith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ginnie (05-29-2012)
Old 05-30-2012, 12:28 AM #15
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
Default Thanks

Thank you for your good wishes. You never know how much you can handle until you have to. I do live in pain every day. Some days are less pain than others. I know if I have a really bad day, or week, to hang on because it will be a matter of time before I have another decent day. Besides, I have two daughters that keep me hanging on. I want to meet grandchildren before I get off this merry-go-round.

Thanks again for the nice thoughts.



Quote:
Originally Posted by ginnie View Post
[Hi ellijay,
I do have extreme compassion for your suffering. Nobody should have to endure that much. I know it is living like you have death pain everyday. I have had two spinal fusions, a number of injections. I will not have anymore, as you are right it is never ending, and with each one there is more and more risk. I am terrified of the very thing you must endure. i wish there was some hope to relieve your suffering to where your quality of life is better. If I cannot get enough pain help, I am not sure exactly what I would do. I am not brave like you are, more of a wimp, but I try hard. You are doing the impossibbel. I pray for you, you will never be forgotten by me. I have a prayer list, and I use it. We are all the human family and we need each other very much. I hope you have peace, and less pain today. ginnie
ellijaygal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ginnie (05-30-2012), SueT (08-15-2014)
Old 08-14-2014, 10:53 PM #16
SueT SueT is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: California
Posts: 4
8 yr Member
SueT SueT is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: California
Posts: 4
8 yr Member
Default Tethered spinal cord

I am 50 and was Dx with TCS by an MRI two weeks ago. I see a Nero surgeon next week so I have been trying to read everything I can. this post seems to have all bad experiences related to untethering Sx. however everything I have read by doctors indicate the only relief from the pain and other symptoms is surgery. Is there anyone on this site that has had a positive outcome from the surgery? I'm feeling very nervous and confused! I want relief from this pain and lack of sleep, I just want my live back I can't stand or walk more than 5 minutes and even then I pay for it with more intense pain and Norco doesn't help in the least. Please let me know if anyone has had a positive outcome (Please!)
SueT is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-15-2014, 01:06 AM #17
Darlene's Avatar
Darlene Darlene is offline
Legendary
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Once a Texan, always a Texan.
Posts: 11,976
15 yr Member
Darlene Darlene is offline
Legendary
Darlene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Once a Texan, always a Texan.
Posts: 11,976
15 yr Member
Wink Nice to meet you!!


Sue,

It is great to have you come and be with us. You will find a great number of dear friends to listen when you are in need of ears. Please let us know how we can help you out. You will find out we are supportive and relaxing place.

Click on the following forum, there you will find some dear friends to assistant you with questions.

Spinal Disorders & Back Pain:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum22.html

Please keep us up to date on your condition. Again welcome, looking forward to seeing you around. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Darlene
__________________

.

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil -- it has no point.
Darlene is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
SueT (08-16-2014)
Old 08-15-2014, 10:17 PM #18
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
Default ask to speak to patients the doc has performed the procedure on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SueT View Post
I am 50 and was Dx with TCS by an MRI two weeks ago. I see a Nero surgeon next week so I have been trying to read everything I can. this post seems to have all bad experiences related to untethering Sx. however everything I have read by doctors indicate the only relief from the pain and other symptoms is surgery. Is there anyone on this site that has had a positive outcome from the surgery? I'm feeling very nervous and confused! I want relief from this pain and lack of sleep, I just want my live back I can't stand or walk more than 5 minutes and even then I pay for it with more intense pain and Norco doesn't help in the least. Please let me know if anyone has had a positive outcome (Please!)
I had two great years after getting over the first surgery. But ask you Dr the chances of retethering and arachnoiditis before you make a decision. AND get a second opinion from a spine center/hospital. Good luck and God bless. Ask the doctor how many her had performed. They are rare and his or her answer may be zero

And as bad as it hurts now, if you get you will miss the pain you use yup have. I didn't think it could get worse. I've stopped saying that. Things can always get worse
ellijaygal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
SueT (08-16-2014)
Old 08-15-2014, 10:20 PM #19
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by ellijaygal View Post
Thank you for your good wishes. You never know how much you can handle until you have to. I do live in pain every day. Some days are less pain than others. I know if I have a really bad day, or week, to hang on because it will be a matter of time before I have another decent day. Besides, I have two daughters that keep me hanging on. I want to meet grandchildren before I get off this merry-go-round.

Thanks again for the nice thoughts.
I just now saw this. Thank you for the prayers. Life is a daily struggle. I'm not tough. You either handle what life gives you or you get off the merry go round. I want to live to see my grandchildren. I look daily for reasons to keep going. They are there. I just have to keep looking.
ellijaygal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-15-2014, 10:22 PM #20
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
ellijaygal ellijaygal is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 14
10 yr Member
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Smith View Post
The other route may also have been worse, and we'll never know that either. Beating ourselves up over past decisions/events that we cannot change is common enough, and hard not to do, but serves no purpose. Borrowing from a Japanese proverb, Fix the problem - not the blame. We can only go forward from now, whatever/wherever "now" is.

Doc
So agree! Don't ever look back. It changes nothing and will only make you miserable wondering about"if."
ellijaygal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tethered Cord Release - Right Timing cavallino Spinal Disorders & Back Pain 2 07-05-2011 05:19 AM
Spinal fluid leak with spinal cord stimulator lynnieg Spinal Disorders & Back Pain 0 12-14-2009 12:53 PM
Spinal Cord Stimulators ICDAVILLA New Member Introductions 3 09-09-2009 11:58 AM
Spinal Cord Stimulators? GreyHoundLover Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 7 07-24-2008 01:56 PM
spinal cord pam barnettt New Member Introductions 5 03-23-2008 12:21 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.