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Old 05-03-2008, 08:29 PM #21
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:I really don't mean to single out anybody, or any group of people. Cherie
You mean like smokers are singled out?

Sally: Please don't take offence to the subject of weight....I've been as high as 187 in my life...I know the struggles....I think the whole point to talking about weight is that many more people are afflicted with this issue than being a smoker, they cause more medical issues than smokers....and hey Nobody is defending the smokers rights ....its okay to beat up on the smokers (ROB THEM TOO) and not okay to point out others 'sins'....

People get upset when its something THEY battle everyday....see the irony of it all?

I say we reduce the cost of fruits and veggies and have the Gov tax McDonalds Meals by 800% and see how folks like it See the point? I pay $6 in taxes for every pack of cigs I buy...whats fair about that? It's robbery....I have an addiction to nicotine and the Gov steals my money knowing I'm addicted, knowing that its 25% of the population who is getting the extra tax hit....I say we throu a "Tea Party" like our forefathers did. We are being taxed without representation....and they add more tax every year...
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Good post, Jeannie..

BTW I was just funnin with Cherie. Not really offended....and she makes a good point about "obesity could be next on the ban agenda"..
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I gained my weight when I quit smoking.

Keep smoking it's good for your figure.

Burns the fat right off!
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This topic hits home for me as well because I'm a smoker. I'm all for restrictions, but all out banning is way too Big Brother for me.

I live in Ohio where we indeed do have a smoking ban. Not only are all of us heathen smokers sent outside in all kinds of weather conditions with no shelter, we are not supposed to stand within 25 feet of a door or window to the building. Well trust me, I stand roughly 10 feet away from the door in bad weather and if people don't like it...well you get the picture. Not only that the law states there are to be no ashtrays within 25 feet of doors. Well, after a few weeks of seeing the mounds of cigarette butts flung everywhere because smokers no longer had an option of where to put them, people slowly started "sneaking" ashtrays back out so people wouldn't be forced to litter.

My favorite part of this whole smoking ban thing was people who owned private clubs *thought* they would be exempt, so these nice people all came out and voted for the smoking ban - basically a do as I say, not as I do. They were soon told that they too would be forced to comply with the ban.

This whole ban issue has brought out the worst in people. Those who may in the past have just given you a dirty look because you were a smoker now basically feel that the government has given them the OK to mouth off an harrass people.

I can hardly wait to see what's next on the ban list. I too think they will start attacking weight.
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Yep, another smoker here. I complained at first when they banned smoking from resturants, but find it kind of nice. I still have issues with bars having the ban, but that's because most of the bars already have an age restriction. So we're all adults and know whether or not we want to be around smoke.

I have to admit it's gotten a little too big brother for me lately. First it was smoking, now health. to take a phrase from the movie Demolition Man, "everything that's bad for you was deemed not good, hence illegal. smoking, contact sports, red meat" I find it kinda creepy personally that the government is trying to tell us how to live.

Also no one seems to talk about the second major cause of lung cancer, which is Radon Gas. Heard about it a lot growing up in upstate ny, where there have been major problems with it.


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I'm in Ohio too, and the ban has not been a big deal to me either. I can't believe some places tell you you can't smoke in your own car. I'd tell them where to stick that one...

I was getting into my car after shopping and lit one up. A family with a baby and a little boy a couple cars over was also coming out to their car and the boy was waving his hand in front of his nose "Ewww that stinks."

You know they get that from their parents.
I said, "Oh yeah? As bad as your baby sister's diaper? When was the last time that was changed? I bet that's real healthy." (That kid stunk up the whole store.)

And gave the mom a dirty look.

She teaches those kids some manners.

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I'm in Ohio too, and the ban has not been a big deal to me either. I can't believe some places tell you you can't smoke in your own car. I'd tell them where to stick that one...

I was getting into my car after shopping and lit one up. A family with a baby and a little boy a couple cars over was also coming out to their car and the boy was waving his hand in front of his nose "Ewww that stinks."

You know they get that from their parents.
I said, "Oh yeah? As bad as your baby sister's diaper? When was the last time that was changed? I bet that's real healthy." (That kid stunk up the whole store.)

And gave the mom a dirty look.

She teaches those kids some manners.


I hear in Calif. they are going to ban smoking in Apartment complexes...since they share the air ducts....but in my car???? Unbelievable!!!!! Also, when I spoke about my nephews...they would do the same thing....taught by, YES, their Mother....who is bi-polar and won't leave her bed. Her youngest child could not talk or walk at age two because of her (lack of social contact).....maybe not a bad habit (its an illness) but still.....THAT effects people too!!! That poor baby...finally got the child help and he's doing well, but not for his age (4).

He without sin cast the first stone.....

Off my soapbox....
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In some places they are already telling restraunts what they can/can't cook with. The goverment is really stepping out of their way to tell us what we can and cant do.

Cars must have certin MPG ratings - that's a big control over what you can drive, I wish I could go back and drive some of those Real muscle cars . Never gonna happen now.
Seat belts was also a big deal when that came into law. Speed limits are good but how many people actually follow them?

How far will it go? when people stop being offended. That's never going to happen either. The good of the MANY out weigh the good of the one. We need to stop listening to the few people offended by this or that. If you don't like it, leave. If a restraunt wants to ban smoking - fine, but let there be an option for others to allow it. This is not a "one size fits all" world. The Goverment needs to stop making it into one.
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I was getting into my car after shopping and lit one up. A family with a baby and a little boy a couple cars over was also coming out to their car and the boy was waving his hand in front of his nose "Ewww that stinks."

You know they get that from their parents.
I said, "Oh yeah? As bad as your baby sister's diaper? When was the last time that was changed? I bet that's real healthy." (That kid stunk up the whole store.)

And gave the mom a dirty look.

She teaches those kids some manners.

ROFL!! OMG I would have needed a diaper if I had been there with you when you said that.
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Hey! Guess what I did in New Hampshire this weekend?

I bought ten cartons of cigarettes! I saved $30.00 a carton by crossing the state line and purchasing them there! I used coupons and they don't have state taxes either!

My state has decided to ride the backs of smokers and balance their budget on us. I don't have the stamina for that!

I also bought three cases of liquor too! I saved an average of $10.00 a bottle by not allowing my state to rape my pockets by taxing my liquor either.

I bought fireworks! They are illegal here! I even got a bag!! Illegal too!

I'm going to hell.
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