Just sending prayers that this time will pass and you will find your voice to do what is best for all of you. I think you know what it is you need to do....its getting to the point of doing it. You have some great advice already so I just wanted to add some hugs. :hug:

I also like to fiddle around a bit with the lyrics:

these boots are made for kickin'
and that's just what they'll do...

one of these days these boots'll
kick you out... of... my... heart... TOO !!

dum diddy dum diddy dum dum dum...

are ya ready boots?

:D

sing it, sistah !!


this one about makes me cry:

D. I. V. O. R. C. E.

Our little boy is four years old
And he’s quite a little man
So we spell out the words
We don’t want him to understand
Like t-o-y, or maybe s-u-r-p-r-i-s-e
But the words we’re hiding from him now
Tears the heart right out of me

Our d-i-v-o-r-c-e becomes final today
Me and little j-o-e will be going away
I love you both and this will be
Pure h-e-double-l for me
Oh, I wish that we could stop this d-i-v-o-r-c-e

Watch him smile
He thinks it’s Christmas
Or his fifth birthday
And he thinks c-u-s-t-o-d-y
Spells fun, or play
I spell out all the hurtin’ words
And I turn my head when I speak
Cause I can’t spell away this hurt
That’s dripping down my cheek

(Dolly Parton)

:grouphug:

well, time will spell away the hurt, girl.... I promise!

Nappy was totally right.

don't listen to DDH's problems, don't give him a shoulder to whine on.

let him be lonely, and let him grow up.

and seriously, don't allow Olivia go for a week!

she's not nearly old enough to deal with that, especially after all she's been through.

visitation rights are just for weekends and holidays at her age...

Hey Renee, in the slighty rearranged words of a certain politition, "YES YOU CAN!"

Set boundries and stick with them no matter what. As for taking Olivia, if I were in your shoes, no way would I allow him unsupervised visits with his parents or by himself.

You may think he is not a danger and would never do harm, but the news reports are littered with stories of how a divorce situation turned tragic in regards to the children. From what I've read of your saga, his mental state is not stable, and thus I believe you should not trust him to take Olivia out of a controlled environment.

As for your Mom, how sad she cannot be supportive in a healthy way. It will be good when you can move out to be on your own again. Hang in there and be careful of what you allow him in privileges.

Carolyn:hug:

Renee - I wish I had some encouraging words here but I don't. They only thing I can say is that I have been there and we some how made it through. Your life is mine 5 years ago last month. Hang in there and keep talking to your friends. :hug:

I'm so sorry about your situation Renee:hug:

I too went through a divorce when my oldest son was just a baby! I know its hard on us and we are the adults but the children....It's just not fair.

I agree with the other posters. There has to be boundaries, He can't just waltz in and out as he pleases. It's a disruption and its not fair for you or your kids.

Take care of yourself. Stress is not good for us!