sorry about that Peg... i needed some butt glue. I couldn't get back into chat... I had to close my browser and then re-login to NT.

Shelley,

WILLIAM WALLACE!!! Nice one!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the 'Wally' monument in Stirling.....I hope you have been to see it...if not time for a trip my dear! As for 66deg I would like that over our oh I just checked we are warmer than you I was going to say 16 cel, but it is 61 so pretty close but we got to 20 with lots of sun today (68---with the sun on you it feels more like 80 far.... oh well this time of year we should be around 12 cel or 54 far to 6cel which is 46......so go figure to me 66 sounds nice even without the sun but then when the cool mist hits my shoulder I'd likely cry like a little baby......oh poor me I am shivering and now my pain is so bad I can't move....booo hooo....soooooo not being sarcastic!!

hairdresser.....sorry to hear of your troubles....prayers your way from mine.....love and hugs to your pain and your family!


I want to thank God deeply for my MT who recently went to a conference to learn more about nerve stripping and tos and brachial plexus traction injuries......so she got me in today instead of wed and gave a good 1.5 hrs of working over....love that Woman!!!! hurting already.....

to all a good night and tomorrow a good day!

love and hugs, Victoria

I'm Scots on my maternal grandfather's side (McCollum), though we were in Ireland by 1610 or shortly after, and to these shores before 1750 when my ancestor was born in Monongahela Valley, PA. In my paternal line we showed up in St Mary's Co,Maryland, likely via VA, before 1650, when my first proven ancestor in that line was born. No Mayflower passengers, but definitely early Yanks, and from the people England was glad to see go - Scots-Irish, and English Catholic "landed gentry", although even in the new world there was so much anti-Catholic feeling most males, at least, swore loyalty to the Church of England until the 3rd generation.

My dad's grandmother's father was also Scots-Irish, he came over as a boy of 12 in 1856 to join his grandparents, his parents we think had died.

Some day I plan to see Belfast, and little Ballymorran, Glasgow and Edinburgh, Derbyshire and Leicestershire, to see where family long gone once walked. Some HOW I am gonna make it happen!

How amazing to have all of that family history. I don't think I could go that far back....sort of pure bred....but then if u include the vikings, celts, romans, and any other rapers and pilligers who came to my wee island......I am all of those!!! not reallly pure bred is it!!!

Beth thanks for sharing your genes with us!!!!

love and hugs
Victoria

Hi guys,

just want to say what a nice very brisk day it is out here in Calgary...1deg and it is cool baby!! But the sky is blue and the sun shines it's eternal flame upon me today.

I take strength from this flame and work with diligence to move forward with my claims to comp and LTD so I work tirelessly on the paperwork yesterday and faced the wrath of migraine last night and then the oh so wonderful fight in bed to get space for my messed up right arm so no elbows were stuck into me....lol

How many of you yell at your spouses (not meaning harm just a vent of sorts) when you are in pain....M doubts my assertion that it is the pain.......

Much love to all
Victoria

I fight for sleep with a 6'2" husband and 4 year old daughter. She started sleeping with us when she was 2 and said she will stay in our bed until she is 16. First, I know this not to be true, she is the last of 4 children. Also, I don't want to here from child experts, I know how to make her sleep in her own bed but the fight is not worth it. Actually, our evening ritual is fun. My husband is usually at football with older boys. We go up to bed and play cards and read books. She then falls asleep. I can't move her because it hurts my neck. I used to but she would wake up. When my older daughter goes to college next year we are going to redo her room for little one. Then we will try to make a big deal out of having her move in. My boys will then get their own rooms. Right now not worth it.

Today I am staying home. I think I broke my foot the other day. I banged it on our stairs. I don't have time to go to the hospital so I'm going to just put ice on it. I'll go to my podiatrist tomorrow. Unfortuanately, he and I are a on first name basis. My brother-in-law turned 50 yesterday so my sister had a nice party for him. We had a really nice time. It was nice to get out and be "normal".

I hope everyone had a great weekend. Linda

Vic- I find myself yelling at times when the pain is on up there..... My short fuse gets a little shorter. One other thing I've noticed that I do is withdraw a little, and ignore other people, which "could" get me yelled at.

Peg- I hope your walk went well this weekend, and that the tents you were staying in weren't too smelly.

Beth -

My GOD you know your ancestry.

How do you know all of that???

I know on all sides we started from Belfast, but I am told that many Scots and English also came to America from that location in the 1800s. It was sort of the sailing funnel to the US. Beth, do you also have your various "Coats of Arms" or even tartans (if that applies.)

In the last ten years, I have studied Hawaiian history, and some of the Polynesian peoples / islands, and they were very connected to the English monarchies of the 1800s and 1900s, as well as Tonga today. They all sailed into Scotland, I think...then on to London. Many died in London due to exposure to new illnesses. I love (for some reason) reading about history, as the people back whenever, were just as emotional, intellectual (perhaps more so) and motivated as we are now...just read their letters.

I also read and studied "Women Pioneers" and if anyone can get books of diaries or writings of women from the 1800s on this subject, it is really eye-opening to see how the West was laid by the blood of our ancestors. There was no antibiotics, so a simple miss of a hammer and bloody thumb could equal gangrene and death...and the American Indians did defend their areas by scalping entire families and babies, while some were extremely peaceful, helpful and very hungry due to lost lands. Lots of starvation by all peoples.

Ugh,
Today I... have a Depo with the Defense attorney. I think it has to do with Voc Rehab... I asked them to cash it out... They said No, So I then went to see the councilor and was unable to fulfill the voc rehab requirements due to weekly Dr appts and physical pain and after she found out the extent of my injuries she said I had no business going thru voc rehab at this time. So low and behold I was depo'd...
And today is the day....
No, problem as long as I can go in there and hold up emotionally and give clear answers being on "Heavy Narcotics" It will be ok...

I hope everyone has a good day and to those in So California... Stay inside if you can and I hope that everyone is out of the path of the fires...

&
Dawn

Tam,

The Internet has made genealogy much more convenient, by making it possible for people who are searching for the same surnames to find each other. Although there is a lot of faulty information on-line, if others have used sources such as church, census, military or shipping documents, you can follow your ancestors backwards if you don't run into any "brick walls", or until you hit that person for whom no parents, etc can be determined.

My Dad's great grandfather was one of those, came to IL from another state, some thought VA, married a widow with 4 kids and a farm, had 4 more kids, then skipped off to TX. My grandpa was visited years later by a man who was related via this ancestor's second marriage and family in TX, which had been unknown to the family in IL and was without sanction of divorce!

For decades my great-aunt and others tried to learn where this great grandfather was born and who his family was. They knew his date of birth, and names/dob of his brother and wife, who had briefly lived nearby in IL. And from the TX branch which they now were in contact with, they knew his second wife's name, date of marriage, date of death and where he was buried. They sent queries to VA courthouses and visited libraries and courthouses in VA on trips but never found what they were looking for.

Then in 1999 I volunteered to help my Dad by searching on the Internet. I posted queries and searched on every site that included people researching our surname. Within about six months a woman from KY replied, giving us not only our ancestor's parents and place of birth, but 8 siblings as well! They were part of a group of Catholics that came to Maryland very early, then moved to KY to establish the first parish on the frontier after the Revolutionary War. Marriage, death, census and baptismal records were all avaiable for KY, except for a few years lost when Confederate soldiers burnt the courthouse, and the earliest records of the "travelling" priest, who went from one parish to another by horseback through the hills and woods.

In Maryland, the records went back further, showing the first 3 generations worshipped in the Protestant church, held office in the town, and served in the military. My ancestor, b. 1650, is one of 3 brothers, but his father is not proven - there were 2 men of that surname that are possibilities, one a ship's captain, who didn't own land there, and one a planter. The ship's captain, Robert, was the oldest son of an englishman with estates in Derbyshire and Leistershire. The planter, Richard, MAY have been Robert's younger brother, as he had a younger brother by that name b. 1610.

It got pretty fascinating, I spent quite a bit of time digging out some this, and we went to Ky and to Maryland on different trips - before TOS. Met many distant Catholic relatives, who immediately embraced us. Found gravestones of ancestors born in the 1780's and 90's, and those of Civil War vets. Really cool.

Anyway, then I wanted to find out more about my other lines. A lot had been done on some of them already. The McCollum info was pieced from a Rev War land grant given to my ancestor for service as an Indian Scout in PA and Ohio (before it was a state). He was given land in KY, and there is a record trail from there to Indiana to IL. We think his family came from NJ before PA, and Ireland before that.

Many lowland Scots were brought to Ireland (no choice) by their English landlords circa 1610 and later . The English kicked the Irish off their lands and replaced them with Scots, many of whose sons promptly married Irish lasses, thus Scots-Irish. So many of the Scots in America came by way of Ireland.

McCollum is said to belong to/be a variant of Clan Malcolm. I don't have a tartan, but would love to!

Sadly, I don't have the concentration/focus to work on my genealogy now - just can't keep track of the pieces like I need to.