Tammy - I'm sorry that the injections hurt so much, but hopefully you'll feel the relief in a couple of days. I have had nerve blocks, nerve blocks and trigger points, and just trigger points (on different occassions). After several of them I have felt ill by the next day. I think that can be a side effect of the lidocaine or whatever they use in them. That being said, 2 days afterwards, I feel better, and pain levels are down. The way I figure it, I can deal with a headache or the "funky" stomach feeling for a month or 6 wks of relief. I just had 6 trigger point injections this morning, and *knock on wood* so far, so good. But, I do agree that the doc needs to know about your reaction both for future treatment and in case its an allergy.

Tammy-
Sounds like you didn't get and anesthetic for your injection procedure, I always have...I am a big fat needle baby!!!

I have had the nerve block and two rounds of Botox injections. Each time they have injected several points, like you mentioned. The nerve block was the first, and when they did the procedure I was sitting there all happy afterwards (still pretty anestitized) and he asked if I needed any pain meds (i wasn't taking any at the time) and I said no i was fine...then I got home and that evening when the anestesia wore off i was seeing stars. I had never hurt that much from the TOS... I think in my case, that I react badly to the injections because I swell afterwards. Anyhow, I hurt for a good two weeks from the nerve block. When I called the doctors office to ask about it they said oh yeah, they did usually hurt...(thanks for telling me BEFORE!!!)


SO, call your docs office for SURE- throwing up sounds bad. But expect it to hurt some, and for a while. I have the same problem with the botox injections...they really really hurt for a week or two, then calm down. Unfortunately both times have only lasted about 6 weeks total, and I have spent 3-4 of that still hurting from the shots, so I am not going to do that again.

Tammy that seems like a lot of shots, my long term doc/physitrist does about 4-6. My muscles are not that severe to jump. O have huge spasms and very tight, I can locate the spot for the doctor to treat.

My sons PM does give him anesthsia and hit him up hard, six deep ones at elast for three sessions. he had a huge side effect.. I did not think that kind of treatment is any more beneficial then hitting the worse spot, ten is a huge amoutn and very intrusive to the muscle.

I have to think about this, and read your post about your doctor...has to be something ele to do.
For today try the ice, an advil or asprin type med to calm things down. Maybe even a valium if you have it.
I hope my today it is not as painful,
Di

Just forgot to add that both times I have gotten botox has been 12-14 shots...to spread out to all the parts of trapezius, pec minor, etc.

so it s not too unusual to have many. I remember others mentioning having that many as well.

Johanna

Tammy,

Like the others said, the trigger points are fairly difficult initially but they do fade on the pain after a couple of days. Your body is really sensitive in those spots and it will tend to spasm up when they're irritated. I read that spasming was the bodies defense mechanism to avoid further injury to an already injured site. It probably figured that the nerve irritation already there and the added "injury" of the injections was more than enough reason to protect those spots from any more stuff happening. Needless to say that's the last thing you want it to do but if taken at face value, it does make some sense as a form of survival. Unfortunately, all too often it seems as if our bodies subscribe to the misguided concept, if a little reaction is good, than a lot must be really good. Ice does definitely help as does good ole' time. Hang in there and I hope it calms down and starts helping you feel better really soon!

Mary

I have never had such a reaction to the blocks, but i do know how they change my ability to do things...they work so wll for me but my doc will only do every two weeks.....the day of I feel exhausted and the last time could not lift up my arm at all or lift a coffee mug with it till th next day...right side and right handed of course.....perhaps you are sensitive to the anesthetic...do you know what he used??? hopefully bupivicaine...or marcaine is the other name....it lasts longer than most anesthetics and for me it lasts about five days and I usually have 8-9 injections done....

I am so sorry that you reacted that way I do hope you get some relief from it as when it does work it really works well....hope this happens for you!

take care and hugs...gentle ones and love,
Victoria

Thanks for youre replies. I've had a rough couple of days and not really feeling any better. I'm trying to hold myself together. The minute I start doing things...I get in extreme pain and all symptoms are in full swing! I especially have trouble typing and using hte mouse (and sitting at the computer...well actually sitting anywhere is painful). I want to sit and read all these posts but it's so hard to do it's FRUSTRATING! I've had to go cry and scream a few times...because this is just so NOT me! I want my oldself back. The Dr said I might feel better in a few days but I'm so bad that I may not. I guess it didn't work too well..I actually feel worse. my neck hurts and I'va laso had trouble breathing now. I've been coughing a lot and short of breath. I read my Dr's notes since I have to take them with me for my workman's comp appt. The Dr's said I have significant muscoskeletal thoracic outlet syndrome. ALso with some severe concerns due to my sensory loss and muscle and nerve disfunction. He said I am in pretty abd shape but won't really say much more than that. I hope he knows what he's doing. I haven't asked about a vascular surgeon yet but that may be my next thought especially since I'm having trouble breathing. I hope the rest of you are feeling well and enjoy your weekend. I will catch up with you later...good night all!

i forget which nerve it is but there is one -perhaps the phrenic nerve. Anyhow, it controls your diaphragm, and if it aggravated can affect your breathing. Just a stab in the dark as I'm not we get doctor. However, the reason we get back spasms is supposedly because in the long thoracic nerve or some other nerve that feeds the back muscles is compressed somewhere in the scalenes or the brachial plexus - if you phrenic nerve is somehow compressed in the mess of muscles, then perhaps that is why you are having trouble nreathing. I think it would go along with how some folks have the chest pain and fast heartbeat.


just a thought, like I said.

sorry you feel so crappy. I know the shots were hell for me, like I said I was down a good two weeks.

Johanna

((BIG MEGA HUGS))))) Tammy! I hope by now that you spoke to your Dr. about all those side effects. that was far to many to give you!! I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, Tammy! Love, Desi