Scott Sonnon's Intu-flow Joint Mobility Program

Anne4tos · 10-09-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop42

What's the point? That was my attitude last week when I woke up at 5:00 AM Friday morning with pain in my neck and shoulders and couldn't sleep. Why even bother? I've been dealing with this crap for more than 30 years. I'm just kidding myself to think I can ever get better. And that may be true. Why do I keep trying?

I think the reason is, because I have made a lot of progress, and I am feeling better than I have in many years. But, it is very discouraging when you think that maybe you can do something, after all this work, and you can't, without a flare up. It's very tempting to throw in the towel, and just say, "I quit". When I started this, I made a vow that would keep going, no matter what. I'm sticking to that, no matter how hard it may be at times.

2 1/2 years seems like a long time, but I guess since I've been dealing with this for more than 30 years, that's not even 10%, so maybe that's not so bad. I have to get my head back in the game and just keep pressing forward.

Coop - This is EXACTLY how I'm feeling tonight! Chugg'n along with PT #2 and strengthening and I KNEW better. I know what I can and can't do, but yet at this point, I let someone talk me into something I knew I shouldn't do.
Why am I STILL such a slow learner? Is it just because we want to expedite the process?

I know this will pass and I'll get back on track, but I'm more frustrated with myself for not saying NO!

You're doing great, so keep up the good work. Set-backs have ultimately led me to moving forward, so onward and upward we will go.

Let's kick some TOS aaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssss!

Coop42 · 10-09-2012, 11:07 PM

Thanks, Anne. Yes, I think the setbacks are a necessary part of the process, but they can be so discouraging! It's nice to have someone that knows what I'm talking about.

Coop42 · 10-23-2012, 07:53 PM

It's been quite a while since I've had cold hands, so I thought maybe I had gotten past that. I was hoping anyway. However, during my last flare up they got that way. I was wrong again. This TOS keeps me pretty humble. Every time I think I have things figured out it proves me WRONG.

Funny thing is, I remember when I was a kid in grade school, my hands would get really purple on cold days, and the other kids would comment on it. I wonder if that could've been an early sign of TOS? There's always so many unanswered questions.

chroma · 10-24-2012, 02:22 AM

I have a history of cold hands as well and think it was early TOS.

Are you doing anything to depress your first rib? Like seeing a hands on therapist (pt, chiro, osteo, massage) or doing it yourself?

Life is far from perfect, but learning to shove my first rib down was a breakthrough for me.

Also, if you're exercising, you have to ask if you are doing any exercises that might be flaring you up such as pushups, anterior shoulders, neck, etc.

Coop42 · 10-24-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chroma

I have a history of cold hands as well and think it was early TOS.

Are you doing anything to depress your first rib? Like seeing a hands on therapist (pt, chiro, osteo, massage) or doing it yourself?

Life is far from perfect, but learning to shove my first rib down was a breakthrough for me.

Also, if you're exercising, you have to ask if you are doing any exercises that might be flaring you up such as pushups, anterior shoulders, neck, etc.

I'm not doing anything to manually push down my first rib because I usually end up hurting myself. I'm not using any foam rollers either. I have the Edgelow kit but I haven't used any of that stuff in a long time. I'm having better luck just doing my mobility exercises free hand, like on the Intu-flow DVD. When I push against something I usually end up flaring myself up.

I'm not doing any strengthening exercises either. All I'm trying to do is get full range of motion in all of my joints. Sometimes I just push the envelope a little too much and cause myself a flare up. It's a very fine line.

Coop42 · 10-28-2012, 01:49 PM

I've added this Ulnar nerve stretch to my mix of exercises and it feels pretty good. I don't hold the stretch though, just go to the tension three or four times. Holding a stretch still doesn't work well for me. I like movement better.

I really wouldn't consider it one of the top three TOS exercises though. That's just his opinion. I'll bet if you asked everyone here what their top three exercises were, they'd all be different. It changes for me all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4aXR...eature=related

jkl626 · 10-28-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop42

I've added this Ulnar nerve stretch to my mix of exercises and it feels pretty good. I don't hold the stretch though, just go to the tension three or four times. Holding a stretch still doesn't work well for me. I like movement better.

I really wouldn't consider it one of the top three TOS exercises though. That's just his opinion. I'll bet if you asked everyone here what their top three exercises were, they'd all be different. It changes for me all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4aXR...eature=related

Thanks, i like the ulnar one alot too, ive been doing it lately and I really feel the stretch. 2 other pts have given me that one.

stos2 · 10-30-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Coop42

I'm not doing anything to manually push down my first rib because I usually end up hurting myself. I'm not using any foam rollers either. I have the Edgelow kit but I haven't used any of that stuff in a long time. I'm having better luck just doing my mobility exercises free hand, like on the Intu-flow DVD. When I push against something I usually end up flaring myself up.

I'm not doing any strengthening exercises either. All I'm trying to do is get full range of motion in all of my joints. Sometimes I just push the envelope a little too much and cause myself a flare up. It's a very fine line.

Hi,
Edgelow's kit is beginning to work for me finally after my rib work and soft tissue mobilization as well as active release sessions with Dr.Art Ando of Ando and Aston physical therapy,Anaheim Hills Ca. and the exercises they have shown me. If you ever plan a trip that side, they are truly worth the visit.
Thanks so much for the ulnar nerve stretch link, I will try it out as I have elbow pain issues from time to time.

Coop42 · 10-30-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stos2

Hi,
Edgelow's kit is beginning to work for me finally after my rib work and soft tissue mobilization as well as active release sessions with Dr.Art Ando of Ando and Aston physical therapy,Anaheim Hills Ca. and the exercises they have shown me. If you ever plan a trip that side, they are truly worth the visit.
Thanks so much for the ulnar nerve stretch link, I will try it out as I have elbow pain issues from time to time.

Thanks, stos2. I'll keep that in mind. If my progress stalls, maybe those doctors can be my "Ace in the Hole."

Coop42 · 11-05-2012, 10:27 AM

I'm at the 31 month mark with my mobility exercises and things have been going pretty well the last couple of weeks. My hips and my shoulders are loosening up to the point, where now I can start working on my spine a little bit. Very, very carefully, though. It was about this time last year when I pushed my lower back too hard and end up in the hospital. I was seriously considering have a double spinal fusion at the time.

So far, this joint mobility has played out the way Scott Sonnon says on the beginning of his Intu-flow program. Who would of ever figured that after all of the doctors and therapists I've seen, the best advice I've gotten has come from a martial arts guy?(Scott Sonnon) That doesn't give me a lot of faith in the medical industry.

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