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Old 02-21-2013, 11:19 PM #1
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Default My PCS has been going on over a year and I'm planning to take these steps.

My concussion happened on the December 31st 2011
( New Years 2012). So its been a year and two months approximately. I got two contusions with bleeding when I fell. The Symtoms of Post Concussion Syndrome that I'm feeling are Very Mild Headaches/Head Pains. I feel that its my brain hurting rather then a headache( I dont know if that makes sence). My smell became distored a month after the incident and has been since. My eyes are sensitive to light also.

Okay, so now the plan....

The next semester starts in September and I would really love it if I felt fully recovered from the concussion/PCS that way I could fell that I was moving past my injury and on with my life and so I wouldn't have headaches while I was in school and trying to study.

For the headaches and head pains that I'm feeling I was going to go to here www.mmtr.ca .This clinic in Canada offers Post Concussion Syndrome Treatment. Here's what it says about the post concussion syndrome on the website.

Using Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach at MMTR Health, we have demonstrated excellent results with the treatment of Post Concussion Syndrome.

At MMTR Health, physiotherapy treatment will be focusing on the root causes of your symptoms by applying Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach to treat the cervical and occipital regions of the head and neck.

The symptoms associated with Post Concussion Syndrome are often caused by muscle spasms in the cervical and occipital regions. This muscle tension will then impact the surrounding tissue, joints, nerves and blood flow in and around the region leading to specific symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, nausea, etc.

*edit* (copyrighted material- © 2011-2013 MMTR Health Inc. All Rights Reserved- A few lines & the link is the recommended way to share copyrighted info.)


For the smell Problem I was going to go to The Smell and Taste Clinic in Washington. http://www.tasteandsmell.com .

I have visited doctors in New Jersey, Neurologist and Concussion Specialists and they haven't been able to tell or recommend me anything that will help with my recovery. I feel like I'm just sitting and waiting and nothings moving. I live in New Jersey so I will need to travel to these places. What do you guys think. These are the only two places that seem to be able to do something for the things that I'm going through.

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Jason,

Please wait to see if the MMTR system helps you. They greatly overstate it value. If you struggle from upper neck issues that are unresolved, you have a good chance of seeing improvement. It is not a PCS cure-all. It is not FDA approved like they claim. But, that does not matter since insurance rarely considers covering MMTR therapy anyway.

I find it interesting that the patented system that they have used since 2006 is still only in use at MMTR. If is was as good as they claim, it would be spreading like wildfire.

I hope you find some relief.

Why do you consider head aches to be such an impediment to getting on with your life ? Many people, me included, live with chronic head aches and go on with life. In my case, I do better when I have low stress things to do as it provides a distraction from the head aches. If your head aches increase from stress, especially cognitive and visual stress, you will likely need to find ways to work without such stresses.

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Hi Jason,

I went to Guelph for MMTR in the spring. I had my concussion at the same time as you. The people are great there, I got some minor relief, but I could not keep any progress going on my own at home with their stretching routine. Terry Moore is totally convinced he has the solution, but it didn;t work for me. We could contact each other if you want more info.
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My concussion happened on the December 31st 2011
( New Years 2012). So its been a year and two months approximately. I got two contusions with bleeding when I fell. The Symtoms of Post Concussion Syndrome that I'm feeling are Very Mild Headaches/Head Pains. I feel that its my brain hurting rather then a headache( I dont know if that makes sence). My smell became distored a month after the incident and has been since. My eyes are sensitive to light also.

Okay, so now the plan....

The next semester starts in September and I would really love it if I felt fully recovered from the concussion/PCS that way I could fell that I was moving past my injury and on with my life and so I wouldn't have headaches while I was in school and trying to study.

For the headaches and head pains that I'm feeling I was going to go to here .This clinic in Canada offers Post Concussion Syndrome Treatment. Here's what it says about the post concussion syndrome on the website.

Using Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach at MMTR Health, we have demonstrated excellent results with the treatment of Post Concussion Syndrome.

At MMTR Health, physiotherapy treatment will be focusing on the root causes of your symptoms by applying Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach to treat the cervical and occipital regions of the head and neck.

The symptoms associated with Post Concussion Syndrome are often caused by muscle spasms in the cervical and occipital regions. This muscle tension will then impact the surrounding tissue, joints, nerves and blood flow in and around the region leading to specific symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, nausea, etc.

*edit* (copyrighted material- © 2011-2013 MMTR Health Inc. All Rights Reserved- A few lines & the link is the recommended way to share copyrighted info.)


For the smell Problem I was going to go to The Smell and Taste Clinic in Washington.

I have visited doctors in New Jersey, Neurologist and Concussion Specialists and they haven't been able to tell or recommend me anything that will help with my recovery. I feel like I'm just sitting and waiting and nothings moving. I live in New Jersey so I will need to travel to these places. What do you guys think. These are the only two places that seem to be able to do something for the things that I'm going through.
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TommyB

I had a similar experience to you. The staff were pretty good, with minor relief, but not nearly the solution I was hoping for.

In a way it is comforting for me to know I'm not the only one they have not "cured" as they sell it like you will get better right away with their treatments. I have often considered going back there, as part of me still wishes they could "fix me" but now hearing other experiences confirms I made the right decision in no longer attending the clinic.
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Hi fkd5322,
You have said that the headaches feel as though your brain is hurting. That is what PCS feels like to me also - perhaps because it is the brain that is hurting.

What it does not feel like to me is muscle tension. I have had it suggested to me that muscle tension in the scalp is the reason. Wouldn't I be able to feel that? There are sensory nerves in the scalp. So, why do I feel that everything in my scalp is relaxed.

When I first wake up in the morning and also during the last part of the night, that is my worst time. Wouldn't that be the time when muscles are the most relaxed? That would also apply to the eye muscles.

So, I don't buy muscle tension causing such profound symptoms. I know that the functioning of my brain has been affected and that can't be caused by muscle tension.

Regarding the neck: a trauma could definitely cause neck problems and these might be aleviated to some extent by reducing muscle tension. So, that might be worth pursuing. However, I have tried several physiotherapists and their conclusion is that the long-term problems that I have are not due to anything in the neck that can be fixed by physiotherapy. I think that the problems that I have are neurological and they aren't going to be fixed by physio.

However, that said, I do think that especially in the early stages of recovery, you might as well do everything that you can to reduce all aspects of your injuries. Just because there might be longer-term neurological problems that can't be fixed that does not stop you from getting some therapy that might help some of the minor problems. Let's get rid of as many problems as we can. And I do think that it is good to have a plan of action, even if some things on the plan will eventually turn out to be not of that much benefit. Perhaps we needed to try them anyway.

I guess each person will have to decide whether a particular therapy is making enough of a difference to make it worthwhile.

Best of luck,
CS

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My concussion happened on the December 31st 2011
( New Years 2012). So its been a year and two months approximately. I got two contusions with bleeding when I fell. The Symtoms of Post Concussion Syndrome that I'm feeling are Very Mild Headaches/Head Pains. I feel that its my brain hurting rather then a headache( I dont know if that makes sence). My smell became distored a month after the incident and has been since. My eyes are sensitive to light also.

Okay, so now the plan....

The next semester starts in September and I would really love it if I felt fully recovered from the concussion/PCS that way I could fell that I was moving past my injury and on with my life and so I wouldn't have headaches while I was in school and trying to study.

For the headaches and head pains that I'm feeling I was going to go to here www.mmtr.ca .This clinic in Canada offers Post Concussion Syndrome Treatment. Here's what it says about the post concussion syndrome on the website.

Using Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach at MMTR Health, we have demonstrated excellent results with the treatment of Post Concussion Syndrome.

At MMTR Health, physiotherapy treatment will be focusing on the root causes of your symptoms by applying Moore’s MyoWorx® Approach to treat the cervical and occipital regions of the head and neck.

The symptoms associated with Post Concussion Syndrome are often caused by muscle spasms in the cervical and occipital regions. This muscle tension will then impact the surrounding tissue, joints, nerves and blood flow in and around the region leading to specific symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, nausea, etc.

*edit* (copyrighted material- © 2011-2013 MMTR Health Inc. All Rights Reserved- A few lines & the link is the recommended way to share copyrighted info.)


For the smell Problem I was going to go to The Smell and Taste Clinic in Washington. http://www.tasteandsmell.com .

I have visited doctors in New Jersey, Neurologist and Concussion Specialists and they haven't been able to tell or recommend me anything that will help with my recovery. I feel like I'm just sitting and waiting and nothings moving. I live in New Jersey so I will need to travel to these places. What do you guys think. These are the only two places that seem to be able to do something for the things that I'm going through.
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My Chiropractic Neurologst said that my headaches could be do a minor neck sprain and inflammation in my neck which may make sense for me because I feel the best in the mornings and at night when lying down when muscles are more relaxed? My headaches get worse during the day.

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Hi fkd5322,
You have said that the headaches feel as though your brain is hurting. That is what PCS feels like to me also - perhaps because it is the brain that is hurting.

What it does not feel like to me is muscle tension. I have had it suggested to me that muscle tension in the scalp is the reason. Wouldn't I be able to feel that? There are sensory nerves in the scalp. So, why do I feel that everything in my scalp is relaxed.

When I first wake up in the morning and also during the last part of the night, that is my worst time. Wouldn't that be the time when muscles are the most relaxed? That would also apply to the eye muscles.

So, I don't buy muscle tension causing such profound symptoms. I know that the functioning of my brain has been affected and that can't be caused by muscle tension.

Regarding the neck: a trauma could definitely cause neck problems and these might be aleviated to some extent by reducing muscle tension. So, that might be worth pursuing. However, I have tried several physiotherapists and their conclusion is that the long-term problems that I have are not due to anything in the neck that can be fixed by physiotherapy. I think that the problems that I have are neurological and they aren't going to be fixed by physio.

However, that said, I do think that especially in the early stages of recovery, you might as well do everything that you can to reduce all aspects of your injuries. Just because there might be longer-term neurological problems that can't be fixed that does not stop you from getting some therapy that might help some of the minor problems. Let's get rid of as many problems as we can. And I do think that it is good to have a plan of action, even if some things on the plan will eventually turn out to be not of that much benefit. Perhaps we needed to try them anyway.

I guess each person will have to decide whether a particular therapy is making enough of a difference to make it worthwhile.

Best of luck,
CS
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