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Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Concussion Syndrome For traumatic brain injury (TBI) and post concussion syndrome (PCS). |
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One thing that I just can't get over is that I somehow caused this PCS by not following a step-wise approach to concussion recovery. I just pushed too hard after the accident, I realize now. And sometimes I wonder if I made this thing permanent or caused permanent brain damage by cycling too soon afterward.
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seth, For every 'rest' protocol out there, I can show you someone else who suggests an "exercise" protocol if exercise can be done without causing symptoms like headaches, nausea and dizziness.
But, there is broad consensus regarding the negative impact anxiety has on recovery. That is why so many doctors put their patients on benzos and SSRI's that can create a whole new set of problems. |
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Seth,
Second guessing won't change anything of your current situation. I think anxiety is more counter productive than exercising to early, it certainly has for me. Bud |
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Hi Seth
I have been reading your posts and it looks like you've gotten a lot of good advice. I thought I might add my two cents. It sounds like you are a very intelligent person that likes to accomplish a lot and push your capabilities to the max (and maybe a bit stubborn as well). This sounds a lot like me and maybe like others on this forum. If I could have exercised like you throughout my recovery, I would have definitely. But my symptoms and my body told me that exercising was a no go unfortunately. I seriously doubt you did damage be exercising because your body was ok with it. What does strike me though is that you said your brain is fried after 4 hours of work - and then you exercise hard - and then you have to have time and energy left for your family. I spent several months of my recovery pushing through like this to the point of total exhaustion every day - to the point where I would just collapse on the couch and be worthless at 4 PM. During this period I felt no improvement and actually felt worse. It wasn't until I made changes in my life and focused on recovery that I was able to make improvement. It looks like you are still early on (3 months?). You have not done permanent damage and you still have plenty of time to figure out a path to healing.
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Injury: March 2014. Hit hard on top of head by heavy metal farm tool. LOC. MRIs and Cat Scans clear. PCS ever since. 33 year old female. Trying to stay positive! Persisting Problems: fatigue, dizziness, lightheadedness, vestibular balance and vision problems, vision static, tinnitus, hearing loss, slight sensitivity to noise, sometimes the insomnia comes back, sensitivity to stress, exercise intolerance, emotional problems - But I still have much to be thankful for. |
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Yes, I'm definitely a bit of a stubborn person. I am convinced that I probably really made things a lot worse by trying to push through early on. Not the injury worse, just my recovery a lot more prolonged. I didn't take much time off work, and started exercising way too soon afterward.
I actually talked to work on Monday, and they have been amenable to me reducing my hours to nearly part time for awhile. It is a real blessing for me to be able to do this. I don't think I'll ever truly recover with my job at its current pace. I'm also getting a neuropsych test done in a few weeks, and that will tell us more. I am at 7 months now, actually, so a little ways down the road of recovery. I still cannot get passed the fact that somehow my ignorance of protocol caused this! Quote:
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Mark,
my swimming teacher had a bad concussion which lasted for about 7 months about 5 years ago, she was behind on her school and spent a miserable year. Yet she now claims she is 100% and never had a set back since. I feel you have a tendency of telling people that this is something you have to deal with the rest of your life, that downturns WILL happen. I am confused. Most people I know don't seem to agree and I really do hope you are wrong on this ![]() After all if I knew that for the rest of my life I won't be able to fly/run/exercise/drink/listen to loud music (concerts) for the next 10 years of my life, I would make a more dramatic decision. I really really hope that there is such thing as 99% recovery. And if any of you know of these it would be really great to let us know. Thanks J |
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I never said you can't fly/run/exercise/drink/listen to loud music (concerts). What I said is, These activities may cause you to have a poor day afterward. Most are more sensitive to alcohol. They may get drunk easier or have a hangover that is more problematic. I did not say you cannot fly. I fly in airline cabins. But, private pilots flying in unpressurized cabins at high altitude for extended periods may be putting their safety at risk. Flying as a passenger is not a risk.
Exercise that cause high peaks in pulse and BP may cause headaches more easily that prior. If you choose to go to a loud concert and have a bad day after, take it slow and you should return to normal soon. I just would not plan a loud concert the day before a critical task at work or elsewhere. If you find from experience that you can push the limits, good for you. Most people do not connect their prior concussion to later bad days. Instead, they might load up on caffeine thinking they are just tired. btw, If you like loud music, spend a day in a retirement community and observe the frustration people have when they struggle to hear. I have a 10% loss in the high frequencies due to noise. It's not like these activities will cause PCS to come roaring back. Just that they may cause one to have a slow/bed day. As you age, you will find that many body systems have less tolerance for stress. This is true for people who never had a head injury. It's just more so for us. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | Tonydc220 (10-28-2015) |
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Mark, the post you wrote for Seth was a wonderful thing for me to read. I was at a very very low point, and it was exactly what I needed to hear. I have felt so much fear and anxiety over my future. To not be able to interact with people, to not be able to have my intellect handy, I am self-employed and haven't been able to work. My wife is a stay-at-home mom it feels like we're about to lose everything. That fear is worse than the symptoms.
Thank you everyone on this blog or formum for sharing your symptoms and your struggles I don't feel as alone as before I began reading yesterday. Before I would try to shake my head and just snap out of it felt like it was my own weaknesses, Like maybe I was just after attention. Now I know. I am almost 2 1/2 years removed from my last concussion which was a baby concussion I didn't even hit my head just ran into a pick playing basketball and the lights went out it didn't help that was my 12 time unconscious, And several of the earlier ones were very big. I never got any anger with any of the earlier ones just a little bit of irritability and a hard time finding my words. Now I can't take motion or sound, my right ear is always plugged,and when it does hear it sounds very funny, the tmj on that side always feels like it wants to pop. I take tons of supplements. I have tried juice feasting a ketogenic diet, gluten-free dairy free grain free. Organic vegan. I thought the ketogenic diet was going to be a answer, I felt hundred percent normal for a month and then I think I must've overdid it and this is the worst I've ever been I haven't been to work for a week and a half and I don't know if I'll ever get to go back. I love my job I think that's part of my stress my anxiety and my fear. For a couple hours a-today usually after I am rundown I think I'm done, I don't want to play this game anymore, I feel as though I am a large burden on my wife and family. I think I can make it, and I think this message board is going to help. Quote:
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Tony,
I am self employed also. Been a hard road being scared and unable to make decisions at something you enjoy and have been doing for years without problems making decisions. Hang in there...we'll make it. I am gaining ground very slowly, but gaining. Bud |
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Hi Seth,
I understand the internal conflict and the guilt about our actions that we feel may have prolonged this battle. I still haven't figured this out for myself, or found acceptance. Not meant to confuse, but purely provide some positivity with the following link. http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2013/03/001.html Apparently, they found graded exercise to be beneficial. The Dali thing? Totally relate to that at the end of a long 12 hour shift, it literally happens every day at work. It seems there needs to be a happy medium place between a little exercise/activity and too much. If it helps at all, all of the doctors I have seen about the PCS and symptoms all say the same thing, 30 minutes max of exercise but daily if possible to encourage blood flow to the bruised parts of our brains. I hope you find peace on this subject, even a pinch is a milestone when it comes to dealing with this. You aren't alone, I personally appreciate posts you've responded to of mine. It seems that when we aren't strong, at least someone else on here can be strong for us at that moment in time. I recall you mentioning something about your vision. Random - but have your pupils been more dilated than usual? A fellow nurse pointed out to me that mine have been incredibly dilated, I've noticed this too since the accident. We were trying to figure it out. Going to the eye doc tomorrow, but perhaps this is what's causing the photophobia/part of the visual disturbances for you? Wishing you well. |
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