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Old 01-25-2016, 10:38 AM #1
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Default Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy-Alternative Treatment? Experiences? Research?

I am strongly considering hyperbaric oxygen therapy as it has been suggested. I understand that it is potentially promising, but there have not been double blind studies. However, there are issues preventing double blind studies from occurring (funding, issues with placebo group in oxygen). I would love to hear if you had injury as a child, how many years from last concussion you received treatment and if you experienced any benefit in cognition or quality of life? Also, where you conducted your treatment. Additionally, if anyone has PCS in the New Orleans Area Dr. Harch is still recruiting participants for phase 3 of the study. Thanks so much
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:06 AM #2
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I did 6 sessions. Made me like a zombie after. Did nothing else that I know of.
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reedrube,

Welcome to NeuroTalk.

Dr Hatch's study has been mentioned many times on NT. I think one person has applied to be in it.

qtsipsq has done a series of HBOT dives. I don't think he found any benefit.

What symptoms are you struggling with ?

What have you done to try to reduce those symptoms ?

Please feel free to introduce yourself and tell us about your injury.
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Old 01-25-2016, 01:21 PM #4
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I did 40 sessions, 5 days a week, in the fall of 2014. I improved slightly over those few months, but I think that was more from my mood being boosted by other things in my life than the HBOT. Obviously can't say for sure, but I don't think it helped me much, and in hindsight I wish I would've saved the money.
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26 year-old PhD student in evolutionary biology, slipped on ice in Feb 2014 while clipping my fingernails and walking to save time (dumbest reason for PCS ever?). Initially just had headaches and didn't feel quite right, but a minor head bump 5 days later started a downward spiral of anxiety, depression, insomnia and fatigue. Had trouble concentrating on reading/looking at screens

April 2014 - did exertion test, passed, started exercising and doing more, but didn't feel much better.

May 2014 - Went on backpacking trip OK'd by doctor, trip itself went fine, but felt worse a few days after getting back, more difficulty concentrating, worse headaches.

June 2014 - Bumped head on ceiling walking slowly down stairs, no immediate symptoms, but caused worsening headahces, more difficulty concentrating and looking at screens. Have not felt as good as I did before this since this bump.

December 2014 - after feeling relatively better I went xc skiing and fell but didn't hit my head (something my psychologist who specializes in brain injuries told me he hoped would happen so I saw it was OK), felt worse

Feb 2015 - back in grad school, light teaching load and some research, nowhere close to operating at my full capacity. Still have constant headaches, difficulty reading/looking at screens, mild anxiety and depression, and just not feeling like my normal sharp self.

Trying, but struggling, to believe that I'll get back to my old self, or at least get close.
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I did 40 sessions, 5 days a week, in the fall of 2014. I improved slightly over those few months, but I think that was more from my mood being boosted by other things in my life than the HBOT. Obviously can't say for sure, but I don't think it helped me much, and in hindsight I wish I would've saved the money.
Thanks so much...did you do it at 1.5 ata?
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That sounds right, but I honestly can't remember. The depth was prescribed by a doc who has treated many PCS patients, so I think it was probably the appropriate depth based on current research.
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26 year-old PhD student in evolutionary biology, slipped on ice in Feb 2014 while clipping my fingernails and walking to save time (dumbest reason for PCS ever?). Initially just had headaches and didn't feel quite right, but a minor head bump 5 days later started a downward spiral of anxiety, depression, insomnia and fatigue. Had trouble concentrating on reading/looking at screens

April 2014 - did exertion test, passed, started exercising and doing more, but didn't feel much better.

May 2014 - Went on backpacking trip OK'd by doctor, trip itself went fine, but felt worse a few days after getting back, more difficulty concentrating, worse headaches.

June 2014 - Bumped head on ceiling walking slowly down stairs, no immediate symptoms, but caused worsening headahces, more difficulty concentrating and looking at screens. Have not felt as good as I did before this since this bump.

December 2014 - after feeling relatively better I went xc skiing and fell but didn't hit my head (something my psychologist who specializes in brain injuries told me he hoped would happen so I saw it was OK), felt worse

Feb 2015 - back in grad school, light teaching load and some research, nowhere close to operating at my full capacity. Still have constant headaches, difficulty reading/looking at screens, mild anxiety and depression, and just not feeling like my normal sharp self.

Trying, but struggling, to believe that I'll get back to my old self, or at least get close.
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HI
My daughter did the study with Dr Harch and by far his has been the best treatment in 4+ years. At first she didn't see much improvement but near the end the HBOT improved many of her symptoms and has reduced her recovery time from over stimulation.

Good luck,
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Hopefulmom,

Can you tell us more about the improvements your daughter experienced ?

How did she tolerate the chamber ? Did she nap or read or use a smart phone to occupy her mind ?

I understand Dr Harch uses the larger rigid clear tubes vs the tubes with a few windows.

From all the research I've read, it takes up to 40 dives to start to see improvements. Many do 60 to 80.
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HI
My daughter did the study with Dr Harch and by far his has been the best treatment in 4+ years. At first she didn't see much improvement but near the end the HBOT improved many of her symptoms and has reduced her recovery time from over stimulation.

Good luck,
How far post-injury? were your childs tbis-pediatric? Thanks and I am glad to hear about the progress!
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HI Reedrube,

To answer your questions:
1. daughter got dropped on her head in a college class. this was 5/4/11. her HBOT treatment started around May 2014.

2. we had done a bunch of therapies and most of them sent her backwards.

3. she has been diagnosed with some symptoms being PCS and some being migrainious vestibular (meaning the migraine affects the vestibular system but does not originate in the vestibular system. this testing was done at the head/neck clinic at UCSF.

4. she loves Dr. Harch and her housemate that she met through airbnb in New Orleans ended up going because she had just had a mTBI and was off work. often you can negotiate a better price for housing since it's longer term. The bus system is good but the music is awesome and often free. note she has light sensitivity.

Mark In Idaho-

thanks for always being there for this group. I've been here for years!

I will ask her tomorrow to be more specific for you

but her endurance, recovery from over stimulation, her speech, and her memory improved.

The study is two months long but it is free so you just have to pay for your stay, food, and bus fare! I believe she watched movies while in the chamber, but I will ask her your questions and respond.

(If I say Mark-In-Idaho has some questions for you; she will know exactly who I am talking about!)

I will be back with more information,
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