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Old 05-03-2007, 10:19 AM #51
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Default yes, I agree...

It does taste good. I was bit worried about the warm water part...since I don't like warm water...but it does taste quite good....for "medicine"....LOL
The powder seems very fine, so don't inhale while scooping it out...it is very easy to get up the nose I have found!

I am reordering now some other things from iherb...so I am going to get the
bigger tub now and save money. I think this will be my predominate mag product from now on. (with SloMag to fill in the cracks when traveling etc).
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:35 PM #52
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Help wow hmm lots of reading

well since im new here, i just want to start off with saying I've done a lot of reading, as I've been to numerous other sites, including braintalk. I feel like im doing homework when reading all this stuff, but oh well, it helps in the end. Thanks for the magnesium suggestions, they are very helpful. Now I don't know if anyone has heard of this before, but I heard that calcium was possibly a useless drug, when used as a supplement. You know people take it for osteoporosis or bone less. But I heard that it was useless. As for vitamin D, I think that is very helpful. Now I read almost every single one of the posts on magnesium here, and.....

....as for the magnesium hydroxide and interacting with other medications like gabapentin, aspirin, and quinidine. I checked the drug interactions via drugs.com and they were listed as moderate interactions with aspirin and quinidine and a minor interaction with gabapentin in that it decreases the bioavailability of it. I looked that up especially since I take gabapentin for myoclonic jerks and insomnia. But I mean come on, I guess drugs.com is more of a pro-med site rather than a alternative herbal, natural hypochondriac(joking) type site, so I guess they wouldn't be that strict with interactions. I'm not saying that I'm pro-med or chastizing alternative herbal methods. I think there lies a good benefit one can get from combining treatments, meds, and vitamins. But I'm semi-biased as I had a real tough time with melatonin in that it worsened my depression/mental illness, nightmares, decreased blood flow, irritability, fatigue. Regardless have any of you heard of a more cautious drug interaction site, maybe one that integrates vitamins and herbs?

Taurine I guess helps muscle fatigue I read somewhere. I sometimes drink those energy drinks (which as u know got the taurine in them) because they have less caffeine per 8 oz than coffee does, energy drinks usually have around 80 mg. Which is good but im looking for something that has more than coke/pepsi(which hav around 40 mg) but less than say a redbull(again 80), i guess companies arent too precise oh well. I read that coffee has 135-145 mg caffeine and sometimes in nominations up to 170. no wonder why when I hav an iced coffee i feel like im gonna hav a seizure or something. geesh. on to my next subject potassium and magnesium.

I heard that potassium is good for myoclonus, so I bought a GNC magnesium and potassium aspartate that I take. is this a good magnesium supplement to take? I mean I may try slowmag, or that ionic fizz stuff if it isnt. also bananas are supposed to be good natural source for potassium, tryptophan, and melatonin which I read somewhere.

i take omega 3 fish oil also, but the GNC version has low EPA and DHA so no wonder it hasnt helped my depression that much.

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Hi Bruegger,

Welcome.

Well done, doing the homework. Good for you.

I don't think calcium is "useless" from what I've read, it's just that the dairy lobby wants us to buy a lot more of this basically milk product than we match in our diets with magnesium...

I bought a newsletter years ago when I had money (ah, the good old days) that talked a lot about magnesium and how in other countries where people take less calcium in, they also have less osteoporosis, because in those countries they have a better balance of calcium to magnesium.

Without sufficient magnesium the calcium we take can be used by our bodies in ways that are not what we are hoping for, like bone spurs and headaches... I forget what else.

I have to go back and read your post again... I have impaired memory from a number of things, to include low B12 for too long.

Oh, that reminds me, magnesiIum is as hard to get out of food for our bodies to use as B12 is... so that's one reason people often are low in it...

I have a page on my site of the foods containing magnesium... but I better not post a link... I do a lot of links sometimes and it irritates people rather than making them feel they are helpful.



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I'm surprised (I just reread your post) about your reaction to the melatonin. Is that common?

Have you tried B12 for your depression? I found that after significant replacement therapy I no longer had symptoms of depression... and glad of it!

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Default Chemically speaking--

--calcium and magnesium tend to be atagonistic in terms of action; they are both "alkaline metals" that tend to form ionic rather than covalent bonds.

So, if one takes both of them, there is a tendency for them to compete for the available "raw" hydroxol and other negatively charged bodily ions.

This is why many knowledgable authorities have told people to take both, and at different times of day, to minimize competition and maximize absorbability. I have seen the ratio of 2:1 calcium:magnesium quoted often--as long as one is taking more bioavailable forms such as citrates and asparates (as opposed to oxides).

Vitamin D, magnesium, and calcium all act to promote bone health; potassium and phosphorous are important players there, too. And sodium (another alkali metal), magnesium, and potassium are all important as electrolytic factors in the conduction of nerve impulses. The standard Western diet has been very imbalanced, however, in favor of too much sodium, and sometimes too much calcium--I am not convinced that a lot of people are calcium deficient--and too little magnesium and potassium (yes, there does seem to be some evidence, especially from countries where lactose intolerance is common and where overages of calcium are less likely, that the goodly intake of magnesium helps stave off osteopenia). And--vitamin D deficiency if also common, especially as one moves up the latitudes.
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Very interesting...

The book I had, which I think was called Secrets of Women's Health... but I'm too tired to go find it and look, said that you had to have magnesium with calcium... and I think that must be why so many calcium products have magnesium in them.

I always take a magnesium now whenever I have a food with calcium in it.

This has been working great, which I judge by the fact that when I had a bone density test, which the administrators appeared to be SURE would show I needed to use their drug, it showed that my bone density was REALLY good. The test administrators voiced surprise and of course congratulated me.

So that's why I always take magnesium with calcium now, and I try to avoid taking any calcium except in food.

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hey well it shod mention in my signature, that i do take vitamin b12, but i gotta take the methylco kind
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hey well it shod mention in my signature, that i do take vitamin b12, but i gotta take the methylco kind
Oh, hey, love LOVE your signature!!!!!!



(in terms of the B12... not because of the health problems it suggests.)


Have you tried eating yogurt at all?
I read a long time ago when I used to have asthma that yogurt reduces symptoms by about 27% after three months of eating it.

I used to think it was the interferon in it... that may even be what the article I read said.

But now there's a lot of emphasis on probiotics... the good bacteria that are in yogurt and some capsules...
(the ones I take contain something like 5BILLION per capsule...
I don't have a fridge due to the reduced amount of electric I have using solar, so I get the probiotics now.)

I'd sure try the yogurt before I tried a more chemical solution...

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i was thinking that it was the acidophilus in the yogurt that helps, but im trying to remember if i read somewhere else that astralagus helps people with asthma, but i could be wrong cuz it could have said acidophilus but i could hav confused it with astralagus.
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Hi Bruegger,



It's nice to see you post again.

No, I think you're right. I know that after having antibiotics people are supposed to have yogurt for the acidophilus...

What's astralagus????

(it sort of sounds like a dynamite day in ones horoscope...)
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yes, acidophilus is a probiotic in yoghurt

Astragalus is very good for the immune system etc and also helped me greatly when I was detoxing from pesticide poisoning

here is some good info on Astragalus at iherb
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