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Dear Jen,
I hope that you are safe under the tornado warning. I have to see my therapist this week too and I fret about what's going on, but mostly I know that she is the professional. You did a good job of writing up that nineteen page document. Your therapist will understand, and, as you said, she can read when she can. M. |
Jen
Not sure where you are at in the tornado warning. Sending good thoughts. We are having bad weather again in Indiana. Donna |
i hope you are safe from the storms Jen, and that they lift the warning soon. :o
i also hope you can manage to get some rest tonight. :hug::hug::hug: ~ waves ~ |
just wanted to say thanks everyone for the support...hugs
jen |
HI jen
hope you are able to sleep tonight. not sleeping can bring about pychosis, paranoid thinking and delusional thinking. It is good to write out your feelings, when it becomes an obcession when you can't stop then it is worrysome. I hope you bring it in...let her decide what /when to read it....make a copy for yourself if you want then she can keep the copy. It is hard working thru issues. keep writing/posting here. we will listen to you. bizi |
Thanks for the kind words. I found out that the paper work has to be sent to the doctor yet on the 18th and not befre. Right now yes I do take Tylenol with codeine and also I take soma, but i hardly take them except at night and then I over took them today whnen I got home from T.
As the writing goes she wasnts me to keep writing. She says sometimes that the only ways I do the toileet because bending is so hard. I called my pharmasist about those pills today, well yesterday. I didn't mention them at all and asked what I can take to help me get some sleep and the first and only thing he said was benedryl, which is pretty much exactly what that is. So I am going to go back to bed. I have been pretty much in bed since 3 this afternoon. I feel pretty good rigt now about it. I guess I was on the phone with a friend and wasn't sounding right and she was going to come over but I told her to call me in a hour but she never called or anything...so i just let it be. Well, It's weird that's it's only 10:15 at night and I don't feel too bad. Lots of things in my head, and T said go ahead and write as much as need to because she gets things that she never knew about me before out. I can talk about that some other time if need be. Hugs, Love, Jen |
You did a great job Jen
Keep it up. Donna:grouphug: |
I really started to feel sick a little while after writing this. But I have also been getting the worst headaches in the morning and don't know why. Those have been going on for about 2 weeks, and I used to get them all the time, but now they are when I wake up and last for a long time. They aren't migranes cause I at least can get out of bed most of the time, but this morning I made sure I had everything I needed right by me...it was 2:30 am and just put a cold bag over my eyes and ended up falling asleep for about 45 min. Still not feeling the best, but at least don't feel like I am going to throw up.
I have a lot of things to do today. Today is my last full day alone so I better get some things done around here. I have laundry and to clean but not too much I guess, I just like to do everything and get everything done at once. I have been keeping a sleep diary and figured that I got about 5 hours of sleep from yesterday afternoon till early this morning and usually it's about 2.5-3. So hopefully can use the pills once in a while. I won't take them during the day like i did yesterday but it felt good to get a little more sleep than usual. I was also thinking that when i called my pharmacist yesterday he said benadryl, this is like a benadryl pm...i don't know if there is a difference or an added ingrediant, which i am sure there is, so maybe i should be more careful. But it's now 4 am and am sure will be up for the rest of the day cause i feel like i got way too much sleep and am almost feeling guilty even though there is nothing i can do during the overnight hours, not like i can do my laundry espeially when we live in an appartment complex. But that's how I am feeling. Take care and thanks to everyone, Jen |
Dear Jen,
It's weird to feel guilty when we are working so hard to feel ok As you say, that's how we feel and sometimes we feel what we feel. I'm glad you slept somewhat. Maybe getting laundry done and out of the way will help you. M. |
Dear Jen
you are doing a great job with the journaling. i am glad your T gave you good feedback about that, and i hope you feel more comfortable with it. i just want to point out that just because the headache is not bad enough to keep you flat on your back does not mean it's not a migraine. migraines can vary significantly in severity. there are also acephalgic migraines (no headache - only other symptoms). the fact you started feeling sick also suggests migraine to me. again, nausea does not mean you feel like you're gonna throw up. it can be milder. i hope these spells.... you have enough troubles. unfortunately stress can exacerbate them, and when we don't/can't sleep we are more stressed. :( keep hanging in there. not long to go now before your appointment with the sleep doc :hug: ~ waves ~ |
Well, i don't know if i told you or not but i got a phone call postponing my appointment with all my sleep docs. Not for another 3 weeks.
Yeah i slept yesterday, but not last night, probably cause i took the pills during the day. But i know what happens when i keep taking those kind of pills, it takes more and more. I was almost taking 12 tylenol pm once every night just to sleep for a while because i got so used to them, so i really have to be careful. I am trying to get laundry done here at home and then have to do some cleaning but am having a really hard time right now. I can't stop shaking and just too many thoughts right now. Laundry is almost overwith and then i have to clean the appartment, which i am not supposed to even pick up a broom cause of my back but don't want my dad and step-mom to say anything when they get home tomorrow. Thanks everyone, jen |
oh i think i misspoke. This was years ago that i was taking the tylenol PM and it just got out of control. I am taking the Tylenol with codeine right now for pain but i take maybe 2 a day and am allowed 4 plus i can take soma with it too and am allowed 3 a day and i take maybe 1
I didnt' mean to give you the wrong idea, i haven't taken tylenol pm in years because of what I used to do with it, and how addictive that stuff can be at least to me it can be. I am sorry if I misspoke and you mis understood, i no longer take that at all. I did ask if I could take it but because am already taking a medication with tylenol in it it's too much for my system. I hope that helps some. Thanks jen |
lol Jen, ok... i guess you saw my other post before i removed it... and then i got a phone call so i couldn't post right away... thanks for clearing that up!!! :)
the shaking made me wonder about narcotic withdrawal, partly because i thought the Tylenol had codeine in it... but i see that it doesn't! it has diphenhydramine in it though! but i'm wondering still, since you do take codeine... do you ever take 'extra' codeine, and how much? i'm sorry they postponed your appointment, but if this sleep thing is med-related or med-withdrawal related it can be clarified before you see the specialist all the same. :hug::hug::hug: ~ waves ~ |
No i don't take extra of anything. I take what is prescribed most of the time, or try to...if anything when it comes to the pain pills i don't take as much as they say i can take. I don't know why that is, just don't feel like i should because sometimes am not in that much pain, but when i get in the severe pain like now it takes so much longer to work...so am going to have to find a happy medium.
I don't think the sleep thing is med related except for maybe the Nardil at all. I am almost off it anyways. I am only taking a few of them and none at night so it shouldn't be affecting that. I just guess i don't understand because when i took the 4 pm dose when i was on it, it put me right to sleep, and i don't know what or why i can't sleep. I am working on alot of memories in therapy and my T thinks it could have a lot to do with what is going on. I am still journaling and there are things starting to happen with the memories now that I don't know what to do. I want to take more of those pills again, but I have so much more to do around here. My PT told me not to vacume for at least another 2 months but my step-mom can be a b**** when it comes to it being a clean house. It is very clean here and I just got done with 4 loads of laundry so am going to try and just relax and maybe try and eat a little. I still don't feel very good, I am hardly drinking anything, i am trying to drink gateraid cause water from the faucet i can't stand. So i try and get some electrolights in me, i don't know what it is, i used to drink a lot of water and other stuff but now i hardly drink now. I don't eat hardly either. Probably just so tired. So am going to try and get a little nap in before the storms arrive again. Going to turn on the air and get the humidity out of here or at least try. Take care and thanks for caring, Jen |
hi Jen
if you have been reducing the Nardil, it may affect your ability to sleep. but that should even out again soon after the dosage is restabilized at a new level or you suspend if that is what you are shooting for.
interesting that your T thinks the things you are working on could have to do with this. i would tend to agree with her. it is certainly something that can throw you into a state of hypervigilance. if that is the case it is most likely a phase, and you will come out of it again spontaneously. i am really glad that you talked to her about it. she sounds as though she is really looking out for you too. i am sorry your step-mom is such a pain. :(:o it's tough being caught between doing something that will hurt you physically, and not doing it and having someone else upset you about it. :o but i hope that you don't vacuum, that you do get some rest, and that your step-mom will be ok with the house as it is. take care :hug: ~ waves ~ |
the sleep thing has been going on since March and I just started reducing Nardil so probably not due to reduction in Nardil.
It very well could be with crap am dealing with memories and stuff, but I have no clue. I just don't know anymore and I don't think it is going to be figured out for a long time. I really have no hope for a solution very soon, and am going on 3 months now with very very very little sleep. The docs even thought my body was shutting down at one point, so am going through physical symptoms of this too. It's just one big mess and right now i don't know how much longer my body and mind can stand it. i have to wait till see the specialist and that's 3 weeks, i don't know right now. |
hey there Jen,
yes, that's right - if you just started reducing the Nardil it can't be a discontinuation syndrome. 3 months of hardly sleeping is horrible. i wish there were some way you could see the doc faster - maybe a referral to a different specialist? urgent referral? i dunno... :Sigh: did you and your T discuss the possibility of stepping back from processing the memories? it seems to me that would aggravate the sleep situation even if it isn't the cause (which it may be)... :( ~ waves ~ |
i wish we could step back from processing the memories but they won't stop coming up, and I did call her and ask her how i can get them to stop, but i know that there isn't a way.
I just guess i don't understand cause when my sleep started to go to crap i didn't have the memories or anything like that that i do now. It was just i couldn't sleep and I dealt with it. I just want to take more of the benedryl pills now and go to sleep so i don't have to feel this anymore. Thanks jen |
Dear Jen,
'Sending hugs. :hug::hug: :hug: M. |
Dear Jen,
I really feel for you. I too wish they could see you sooner...maybe get on a waiting list? Are your parents on the same page? Do they understand your suffering? Are they supportive to you? ((((HUGS)))) bizi |
sorry i haven't said anything in a while. Things aren't so good i guess. My parents well, my mom knows that the sleep thing is not helping me any and I think my dad knows that too. I told him I have been taking the over the counter stuff and so he is hopefull now that I can sleep again. I didn't want to get in it with him on how you can't be thinking i am going to keep taking that stuff cause we had company still, they are leaving tomorrow.
I am going to try the cpap thing again tonight I think, I have it ready, but I don't know yet. I ended up sleeping a total of 6 hours through out the day and night last night so that is a lot better than it's been in months. I don't know what to do about things at this point. Keep taking the over the counter pills till i get off the nardil in a few days or what? I am down to 1 Nardil, I have taken myself off a lot faster than supposed to according to the pdoc, but I have had no ill effects from it, so I take 1 in the morning and that's it. I don't know if going to replace it with another anti-depessent or not, i haven't thought about it, and that pdoc said to see him in 3 weeks. so will be off the nardil by sunday probably and then see him in another 2 1/2 weeks. I don't know what to do about not being on an anti-depressent and don't know if i need to be on one, well i probably need to be on one, but right now, things are so emotional and screwed up that I don't care. I actually have absolutly nothing to do this weekend, so I plan on, well this is what my mind and me have planned, to just sleep the weekend away. Be up for a few hours, take the pills and go back to sleep for a while, then over and over again. I know rationally not the best way to handle being so overly tired, and having my dad and step-mom home again, but right now I don't want to be awake and have to "feel" things. My pain level has been beyond what I consider I can take today. I kept having to lean against the shower wall to wash the soap and conditioner out. I could hardly dry off and then i had to go to my room to sit on my bed to get dressed. That has never happened to me with the latest of this back problem. I had to sit on my bed and do my hair and make-up and then try and get into my mom's jeep while I had the vehicle to go and pick up some meds and go do some things before bringing it back to her. I have been taking the pills that the doc gave me for pain and muscle relaxer like supposed to and hopefully will get the tens unit in a few weeks. The pain medication just isn't working and am having to take 2 at a time, and that isn't even working right now, at least not today, and then to add all that my ankles are 2 times their size. I am on a water pill cause i was so swollen for a while, and the swelling went down but now they are huge. I wonder if it could be from the humidity we have had the last 2 days here or the pain...i have no clue and i am not going to call the doc. about this...i feel like i am always calling that place and i will just deal with this as it comes. I am sick of something always being wrong with me and then having to take a pill or going to the doc. for some sort of test, i am done with that right now. I had hopes of getting a job soon, how can i even get a job if I can't walk to bring our garbage out or vacume or do the laundry without excrusiating pain 10 min. later. I just can't take this anymore, emotional and physical at the same time happens to lots of people i know, but it seems that's all there is with me for the past 2 months and I can't take it anymore. I am 31 years old and feel like i have the body of a 100 year old who can or isn't even supposed to drive, can hardly walk and probably should be walking with a cane or something but I have been there before and that was because i had a dropped foot from a ruptured disc before surgery, this is nothing like that, just pain. Need to just suck it up and shut-up. There are people out there in much worse conditions that me and i should be grateful for what i have. Ok, well that's my complaining again for the day. have a good weekend jen |
jen,
I am sorry that you are in this pain. It is not ok that you shoulkkd suffer in silence. and it is not right that your ankles are swollen this much. It is ok to call the doctors , that is their job....they work for us! they are paid well to help take care of us. I hope that you can sleep with the cpap tonight.... rest while you can get caught up...try to be around other people, reach out for support. YOu need as much support as you can get. Your relationships are really important. ((((HUGS)))) bizi |
Dear Jen,
I think if you sleep here and there when you can you could feel better. The swollen ankles need to be reported to the doc. Good luck with the cpap tonight. The tens unit can help the pain lesson I hope. By any chance are you taking potassium since you are on a diuretic? You could probably take magnesum too -- but take the kind that is absorbable. At a time of depression, pain, and not sleeping and so on, you don't need to make things worse about thinking about the big picture of what is going to be. Quote:
Complaining here is fine. I think you are isolated, so talking to us might be a good thing if it helps a bit. M. |
Thanks everyone,
you are all so nice to me an I do really appreciate it. Yes I am taking potassium because am taking the water pills. I just don't understand why everything else isn't swollen anymore and my ankles are huge. i wrapped them with ace bandages till just now, not too tight but just snug enough to stay on. My dad was thinking that if I do call the doc. on monday about it asking if should get support hose or something like that? I don't know anything about that kind of stuff. I have never ever had this problem before except after a surgery my ankle was swollen but not this size. I was thinking if it was just one ankle it could be a blood clot of some kind but it's both and my dad looked at them and said they look so painful, they aren't though. My toes are a little sore but other than that ok. So I only slept about 2 hours. Yeah it's only about 3am but I am wide awake and I don't think am going to take anymore of those sleeping pills till tonight, not feeling the best right now anyways. The headaches get pretty bad in the morning and so i just try and lay with ice over my eyes. I tried that this morning and I couldn't lay still so I got up and now am on here. You are right, i have to take things little by little. The reason i brought up the job thing is because my mom and I were talking about it Friday and when I met with my therapist I told her I wanted to get a job, but she doesn't think that mentally I could handle one right now and now physically i can't hardly walk...what a mess I am...a wreak. I let myself know that with my self-talk, but my step-mom occasionally lets me know the same thing. Maybe now that they were gone for a while things will settle down here for a while and go back to "normal" if possible for a week or two. I haven't workesd since May of last year and had to quit that job of 3 years because i was too depressed to work some days. Didn't want to get fired so I quit. I tried the cpap again last night, and last maybe 15 min. I feel like am being sufficated with it, I never had that feeling till recently and so am not real sure about it. I have tried the other masks and couldn't stand those either, so I don't know what can be done if anything. Maybe just go without, or my specialist may have to increase the air pressure a little to make it feel a little less suffication like...don't know if any of this is making sense cause it's not in my mind. Take care everyone, and again thanks for all the support and advice I do really appreciate it. i am really sorry if I am complaining and there is ALWAYS something wrong, nothing positive right? Hugs, Jen |
Hi,
The ankle swelling could be caused / aggravated by the Nardil As you finish coming off the Nardil and kind of de-tox from it, the swelling could come down. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003104.htm You can elevate your legs when possible. Here is a huge list of meds that can cause swelling: http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/e/edema/medic.htm Soaking your feet in Epsom salt (magnesium) or even taking a bath for the whole body can help I believe. Also, the magnesium can relax you. Quote:
You could put it on for 15 minutes in the daytime and start getting better used to it. Or in the daytime you can become more cognizant that something is wrong with the machine setting. When that has happened to me -- that I didn't feel that I was getting enough air -- I started hitting the buttons until the air flow was better. Sometime I knock over the machine or drop something on it so something can hit the buttons and I supposed they need to be turned on. It's not like I am going to ask for a manual or try to figure out how the machine thinks, but I am willing to touch buttons until I get an improved result. When you see the sleep specialist again he/ she can check out the mask and machine for you. Or even better, place a call and ask if there is something you can try before your appt. Quote:
They read the computer card and can see a lot of what is going on home. Also, your people should be able to observe you in the office. I remember the sleep doc telling me that a certain percentage of people cannot get accustomed to the mask -- maybe almost a third. But my doc is pretty motivated to get people to become happy about the mask and machine. Quote:
M. |
Mari,
Thank you so much for all the information. when i saw the sleep specialist last, which was like 2 weeks ago, i went in because i was still not sleeping, I told her I didn't feel like I was getting enough air. She told me to keep using the machine, which I did until I had like a flashback, but nothing like that had happened to me before. I was putting the mask on and felt as if someone was putting their hand over my mouth and keeping me from being able to get enough air so it's been 4 days since I used it till last night. So epsom salt will help with swelling? Does it tell you how to use it and stuff, I have heard of it and I know my mom has used it a lot but don't remember what for. I will get some if I go out today or if my dad goes to the dollar store see if he can pick me up some cause i can hardly fit into shoes anymore and my socks are really tight. Anyways, she said to come back in 6 weeks and if still feel the same she can adjust the air. It's only at a 8 right now, but she said she can make it go up. I have pushed all the buttons and turned the dials and stuff, and the card that is in their is going to show that I haven't used it enough for my insuarnace to cover it anyways, so I may be just giving it back. Beecause of my insuarance it has to be used at least 4 hours a night for 4 straigtht weeks. I did 2 1/2 straight weeks but that was short lived. Probably the doc can talk to my insurance or something, we'll see I guess. Thanks again for the information, I was actually just going to look up some of that stuff and you beat me to it. Talk to you soon, Jen |
Hi,
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(Just so you know, don't ingest it. it is a laxative.) The epsom salts will come with basic directions on the package. Basically, all you do is dump some in warm water and soak. For my feet, I use water as hot as I can stand it. When it gets cold, I get up and dump out the water. Or if you are not using hot water, mix the epsom salts in hot water to disolve and let the water cool enough until you are ready for it. Quote:
I sleep more now. I wonder if there is a way to think smarter than the machine --- like wear the mask 30 minutes a day while you are awake so that you can add some time to the clock in the computer chip thing. M. |
I am going to try and wear it as much as possible today. I am not feeling well at all today and I don't know why I am always feeling so sick in the morning. Usually it goes away after I put a cold rice bag on and sleep for a half-hour and then my head feels better, but today I can't do anything but lay in bed and sleep on and off which is good cause there is nothing to do anyways, but i just feel like it's always something.
I have no clue why I am getting thsee headaches and feeling so nauseated all the time especially in the early morning. but today it's not getting any better. I am trying to drink fluids as nothing even looks good, haven't eaten anthing cause i don't know about being able to keep it in me today, at least that's what it feels like. I just want ONE good day...that's all am asking for...but guess I can't do that cause there always has to be some sort of drama going on in my life or my head fo rme to have that day. take care, jen |
Dear Jen,
I can't rmemeber have you seen a regular doctor about the swelling? I don't want to alarm you but....swelling of your lower extemities can be a symptom of something wrong with your heart. usually you see that in older people not some one your age. But I just wanted you to think about seeing your regular doctor if you have not seen them. I am sorry that you are suffering. there seem to be many different issues going on and you must be very impatient ....I know that you want to feel better! I wish you did too. bizi |
Thanks bizi,
Yes I have seen my reg. doc for the swelling and am currently taking a water pill and potassium with it. The swelling in my stomach has really gone down and my hands and wrists are ok, but the ankle swelling doesn't seem to get better but worse. I don't know if or what to do. I probably should try and call him next week, just feel like am always seeing a doc. or something is always something wrong with me lately. I hear what you are saying about something with the lower extremities being wrong with the heart and am scared about that. He did do blood work when I was in there a few weeks ago and everything came back really good. I don't know, maybe just wait it out and see what happens. i think if something bad was going to happen it would have already, so i don't know. I thought it could have been from all the inactivity from being laid up from my back, but now that am able to do a little more, the swelling is actually stll there and at times even worse. I can't fit into a reg. size shoe i used to be able to. I don't know, am at my witts end with this too and am so ready to just say screw all this crap and say nothing to anyone anymore. Thanks again, I think I am just going to see what happens and hopefully the swelling goes down. I only have 1 1/2 weeks of water pills left form 4 weeks and some things have improved. Oh well, just too much wrong with me lately, and don't know if the sleeping thing has caused all this or not. I have done a lot of research on this, and I don't know, i know sleep deprivation can cause physical symptoms, so maybe just need my sleep. at this point i don't know if i even care anymore. I used to be able to be active and do things like actually walk through a store without having severe pain, now i can't even do the grochery shopping, i mean really, is that a way to keep going? not saying going to do anything, just thinking a lot about stuff and me. Jen sorry everyone i can stop talking about all my crap now and just let it be. I am sure all sick of hearing or reading it, and I would be too. same crap all the time. sorry again. I will quit writing and try and be more positive. just thanks for all the advice and now am going to try and sleep again or something. |
thoughts, possible explanations
Dear Jen
the morning headache+nausea suggests migraine to me... it hurts more if you move right? stress and lack of sleep can easily increase migraine frequency. rebound headache can also occur following chronic use of pain killers, but would not explain the nausea. sleep deprivation can also cause 'simple' headaches, period. again, would not explain the nausea but maybe that is something else. :confused: sleep deprivation can certainly escalate your overall pain levels. i hope that the 6 hours sleep you got is an indication that you are back on the road to sleeping... sleep will definitely help you all around. sleep heals. hang in there :hug: ~ waves ~ |
Hi Jen
I have been gone. So I just caught up. I can give you some news about the hose. You would feel a lot better if you had the hose. I would definately call the doctor and explain just like you did to us. That your feet and I'm guessing legs say to maybe the knees or lower are very swollen. To the point you can't get on shoes. Meaning if you went out to the store, say and bought a new pair. You would have to buy a pair that is say 2 sizes bigger than normal. (This is what happened to me.) I thought it was normal. Because I needed to go up in size for say 6 months. And back down, so I had the sizes. Anyway, I had a physical therapist that was dealing with things with my hands, or legs at the time. I'm sorry that I can't remember exactly See I am and was a regular at the time. But I asked my therapist, about the pain in my feet and legs. She noticed the swelling. And asked if she could call in one of the other therapist. Who dealt with this issue. So this one told me to get some relief I needed Support hose. So they asked my doctor for a order. GOt one and I got relief. And honestly could walk again without the pain all the time. And my hose were a godsend. To say the best thing that happened. They were. The other thing my doctor asked them to tell me. Was to make sure I wasn't eating salt. She felt it might be my problem. So I definately would suggest going to the primary. Ask to go to a physical therapist to be fitted for the support hose. Because if you just buy some, you usually buy the wrong size. I tried that when I wanted a second pair. I wasted more money than just asking how much they were. It turned out I could buy a second set from them cheaper. And I did, because I had problems washing them. And needed two pairs. I hope this helped. Please Call tomorrow. I see my migraine doctor tomorrow. Donna |
Hi Dmom,
Thanks so much for your response and advice. I really appreciate you all here. YOu have been so much help. I took a bath last night in epsom salt, my dad went out and bought me some cause I can hardly even get out of bed right now I feel so sick. But of course it didn't work right awway but there was a definite change in how there was pain. It wasn't as intense...i just noticed I had a harder time standing up after the bath, meaning getting up to take a shower, usually I can get right up but this time I couldn't as fast. maybe just getting old....haha Anyways, i have been thinking about the support hose. I am a pretty big person, do you think they even have them that big? I do see my physical therapist tomorrow for our workout in the pool. I think it is actually our last one and am going to talk to her to about all this. I had carpel tunnel surgery last year and I feel like I am getting that back. I know am not getting it back cause of the difference in how it can come and go with the pain and things from my back. I noticed that last night my hands and wrists were really swollen again and my stomach was really swollen again, and I only had a piece of bread yesterday. I know not good for me, but I am not feeling well and I don't want to be sitting at the thrown so to speak for hours because I ate. I went to sleep around 10:30 last night and woke at 1:15 this morning feeling so sick. I felt like I was burning up and I do have a small fever, but nothing big. It's nice to actually feel the need to cover up instead of no covers at all. But am sick of feeling sick at work all the time. One thing I do do that's right is no salt, at least I don't add any and I try my hardest not to eat things with salt. I really don't like the taste of it and that is something that makes my fingers blow up, but just my fingers. so I know this is something different. I probably will call Monday to see if can get in to see my regular doc. sometime this week. He said to call if things weren't imporving so i can call at least and see what he or his nurse suggests. One last thing and then i think or know I was writting too much, I am on tylenol with codeine for pain for my back and also generic soma. I don't take as much as what I can each day, but wondering and heard that you can get tylenol poisoning, or is that only if you overdose on it? This is my 4th bottle of 20 pills in 2 months I believe so I think that i am ok when it comes to not taking too much, but I don't know. I am also wondering if the pills I take from over the counter at night are causing all the pain, but then had that before i started the pills, I don't know, am just reaching here. Thanks again for listening, hugs, Jen |
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since you have/had several symptoms i really would like for you to see your doc. to make sure you're ok with the tylenol they need to do a liver panel... but your symptoms taken together may suggest something completely different to a doctor, and if so maybe they can help. can you just go to your GP monday, as a walk-in? make sure you mention that you weren't feeling like eating for a while - and advise if that is still the case. it is clinically relevant. what OTC pills are you taking at night? :o :hug: ~ waves ~ |
waves,
I really appreciate your concern. I actually was looking into that tylenol thing because i have been on tylenol 3s for over a month at least probably longer. I can take them every 4 hours as needed, and I went through a bottle of 20 in 5 days the last time, this time I am not hardly taking any because i feel like crap, but yet am in so much pain....ya know? I was thinking about just going into the walk-in today but i can barely get out of bed. I am going to call tomorrow probably and ask. i am taking what is called Rest Simply- Diphenhydramine HCL 25 mg, nighttime sleep aid---generic form of benedryl. I am almost wondering if I am having a pretty severe reaction to it. I take 2 a night for the last 3 nights. I am not taking them tonight though and see if that helps. I tried to eat this morning. I managed a piece of toast even though it made me feel so sick and a glass of milk and that too made me sick, but I have a feeling that's all am going to get in me today. The fever kept going up and up all night and then I fell back asleep this morning about 6 and woke up at 8 and it was down a degree so that is good. I can't even think about food or even drinking something like a glass of water, i know I should be drinking water and I have some gaterade here, i just can't drink it. I tried and makes me so much more sick to my stomach. I don't know what is going on, but have a feeling it has something to do with the stuff I take at night. I don't know though I am not a doc. and I really don't want to call the clinic today. i feel like I am there all the time as it is with other things. I was there last week twice I think once for a reg. doc. appointment and the other to see my pdoc, but then again I don't remember about the pdoc. So am just going to lay low today and keep close to home. I really don't know I don't know what it could be or maybe am just getting the flu---who really knows??? I just know am sick and tired of all this and want to feel a good day, just once. I try and remain positive about this, and then something else makes me feel worse. Sometimes I wonder if I am wondering if I am just going crazy and that am sick because am sick in the head too. Thanks again for being so nice to me everyone and helping me get through this hugs, jen |
Dear Jen
oh wow i thought you were going to wait to take the Rest Simply until after the Nardil (clearance takes a bit, once stopped).. :eek: anyway... i guess you are ok... WHEW! i am glad you are ok, and are getting more sleep. ;) By itself 4 pills a day (20/5) of Tylenol 3 (those pills should be 300mg each + 30mg codeine) are well below typical toxic range. since there are other meds in the picture it is hard to say though... the liver might be overworked from other things as well. yes it could be flu and under ordinary circumstances i wouldn't suggest to run to the doctor. but yours aren't ordinary circumstances. there are many symptoms, some serious, and you are taking many different types of medications. Nausea, FEVER, lack of appetite, can happen with the flu but they could also indicate serious conditions. Given the complexity of the picture, i really think it is safest for you to see a doctor. It might help to write on a piece of paper the symptoms you have, starting with the headache and nausea, lack of appetite, swelling, pain levels and ALL meds and the amount you take - whether prescribed or not. I really hope you will be able to get in to the doc tomorrow. someone else should take you - i hope maybe your dad can help. :hug: nite nite. i hope you will start feeling much better soon! :hug: ~ waves ~ |
really don't know what am going to do about this whole thing. am just a baby anyways, just complaining about nothing important.
i did eat a little today and drank a little today, but well didn't stay very long. oh well, kinda how it goes lately. am supposed to have physical therapy in the pool tomorrow but don't know if going to go especially if feel this week or maybe it be good for me to go, i can't make a simple decision about anything right now. too much going on in my head and my body to even know anymore. and right now i don't care. am just complaining and if i did go to the doc. am sure they just say nothing wrong so that would be a waste of my insurances money. i waste enough as it is. thought things were starting to get better this afternoon, now well same ol' same ol', and watched the movie "Precious" which i didn't get to finish cause the dvd must be scratched or something cause wouldn't finish, it's from the library and over 400 people have seen it before me. but not a good movie to watch for me and it was way too triggering. i only saw the bad stuff, and then the movie quit, so now it is playing over and over in my mind. oh well. tc everyone, jen |
Jen
The physical therapist can help you with the swollen legs and hands now. I would like to see you try to go. Please also do call the doctor. Do not think its nothing. I think you need to have the doctor tell you that. Donna |
yes actually i do think it's nothing, i think am just complaining and would take up the doc. time.
I really don't or I dont' know. I can't make a decision about things right now. I don't even know if I should take my meds tonight for fear of becoming sick during the night. I am not taking that night time sleepy thing cause i don't know if that is causing it so that won't be in the mix, but i have some others to take, and the idea of swallowing pills right now doesn't sound very appealing to me or my stomach. I know am not thinking right, but it's how am thinking. Too much in my head to comprehend what i need to do for me. I don't know about PT tomorrow, i haven't been able to take a pain pill all day today so maybe the pool might help. I really need some T3s and a soma so my back can stop spasming, but putting pills down my throat right now does not appeal to me. I dont want to make anyone mad or waste anyones time if I can't do the exercises in there. I can't stop shaking, well my hands anyways and I don't know if I can stand this any longer. Too many symptoms so it has to be all made up right? I mean does anyone have this much wrong with them at one time? Then go into the doc. and they say oh yeah that is wrong and this is wrong, oh yeah you are right you are not feeling well...no I don't think so, they will tell me there is nothing wrong with me, do the blood work like usual and send me on my way...why do that? there is no point. They usually don't find anything wrong anyways, so what makes this time different? I can be my own doctor this time and just stay home and be sick or whatever it is I am. I really hate myself right now, for especially dragging everyone of you into this world of mine that doesn't exist. And if I am sick, oh well. There isn't anything anyone can do for me, they have told me for the past 2 weeks they won't help me with my sleep and then if something happens because i take something for sleep they all of a sudden want to help...how f***** up is that? So not worth going in there and the humiliation of being there all the time. Doesn't that make sense to anyone beside me? Anyways, I don't feel real right now, nothing feels real. Am just like floating and not able to ground myself here. So i have to go now, nothing is real right now, and i don't feel real. I don't even know what am saying or why am saying this. just don't worry cause things will be fine later. i eventually come back to earth after feeling like am floating for a while. Thanks everyone and sorry for wasteing everyone's time and energy on this subject. I dont' know if you can just leave this alone or errase the whole topic or what, but not worth anymore time being spent on it. |
please keep posting.
you are not talking up our time. You are a worthy woman and deserve to have the best care possible. you need a team that will work with you. i hope that you have a therapist to help you deal with these issues. I am sorry that you are not keeping any food down or water, afraid to take food in. have you had eating issues before? bizi |
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