FYI: JavaScript vs. Java
 

Hi MrsD and EVERYONE,

I was confused by the post about Java, since the threat I encountered had to do with JavaScript.

Java is not the same technology as JavaScript.

Java is huge security risk these days. I no longer even keep a Java Runtime Environment (JRE), either standalone or as a browser plugins. This is the entity that has all the holes/risks.

Issues that affect JavaScript are a whole other kettle of fish. JavaScript is not handled by the Java Runtime Environment, and does not present the same risks.

waves

Waves,

This is exactly correct. Hubby is not aware of any problems and is not motivated to change.

I do think I could learn ways to make my interactions with him easier. In other words, I wish I could talk to an expert and come up with a plan.
There is a chance that hubby might be willing to accept some aspects of my plan for him --- esp if he does not have to go to any appointments.
He was in therapy a while ago (10+ yrs ago) and got help with life stressors and with family and parent issues.

M

I am sorry about this. :o :(

M

Finally getting back to replying to this...
 

ACCCCKKKKKK!!! :yikes:
Your ingredients would have made a really awesome smoothie, Mari!
I'm sorry you didn't get the chance to enjoy it! :(
This plan sounds like a win/win to me! :)

waves

"Koresh e Badenjan" - Eggplant Stew
 

LINK: [post with FULL RECIPE, incl. instructions]

"1 pound (450 grams) lamb or beef
8 small eggplants
2 medium onions
5 small tomatoes
2 tablespoons sour grapes
1/2 teaspoon saffron or turmeric
2 teaspoons salt
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
9 tablespoons cooking oil"

It does indeed sound fabulous! :) Sometime, when I get the chance to cook just for myself, I'd love to try this.

I do have a question though. Are the "sour grapes" regular, green vine grapes that are not fully mature or some other fruit?

waves

Yes. They are immature, not ripe yet.

M

Stressed!
 

I was calling my insurance company to check on the therapist tonight and found out that I might not be covered at all!
The insurance people will "research" whether I am insured and get back to me tomorrow.

I should have dropped off my 'scripts from the pdoc and had them filled over the weekend.

And I cannot cancel the new pdoc appt because I do not have the phone number.

I missed two days of sleep.

Mari

Lost the prescriptions
 

I cannot find my prescriptions from the pdoc!

They are not in my purse and not in my wallet. I only carried my purse and umbrella to the appointment.

I am wildly stressed.

M

Re: Stressed!
 

Oh my goodness! :eek:

I am sorry this is happening to you, Mari.

I hope they determine you are insured and that they let you know quickly, so you can relax!

I hope you can find some way to get sleep tonight. :Heart: :hug::hug::hug:

waves

p.s. Thanks for letting me know about the grapes.

Re: prescriptions
 

Dear Mari,

I think one of two things is most likely:

1. They are in your purse somewhere, stuck between documents or in a compartment you didn't check.

2. They are in your apartment somewhere. If you've checked the purse scrupulously (dumped everything out, etc.) you probably took them out and set them in your apartment somewhere.

I can also see two less(?) likely possibilities:

3. Could you have set them down in the car "temporarily"?

4. Could you have set them down at the pdoc's office before leaving? ... Did you have to go to the desk again, after the pdoc added the verapamil script to the others?

Try to hang in there. You will be able to find them.

waves

Update: I have them
 

Yes! They were in my car. I saw them when I got in the car to drive to my friend's house.
Thanks, Waves.

M

I am glad you found the scripts, Mari! :)

Enjoy your visit with your friend!

waves

Glad you found them in your car. I wondered about that.

I am so glad you found them. Hoping you have a great night.

Donna

such a weird day Monday
 

Hi,

I woke up tense on Monday and I have no idea where it came from unless it was something I ate the day before like the Chia seeds I bought the other day. :(

The potential new tdoc called me around the time of my appt that I had canceled. She seemed friendly. :)
I asked her if she had experience with bipolar patients.
She said yes and that she had seen two that day.

Old tdoc left a voice mail earlier in the day. She wants me to make an appt with her. WHAT?? I do not know what to do with that message. :confused:

Mari

therapists
 

That's nice! :) And it is good that she has experience with bipolar patients.

Oh my. I am guessing you do not even want to deal with her at all? Do you feel you need to respond somehow so she won't call again? If so, a very generic thanks-but-I-am-ok could do the trick.

Do you know how you feel about her?

Do whatever feels most natural to you. You can just let it slide if that is the least troublesome thing.

:hug::hug::hug:

waves who might be going to bed soon - it's 9 am. :rolleyes:

Hi,

I am confused. I probably need a therapist to help me figure out the other therapist! :eek:

Twenty years ago, my tdoc and pdoc sort of had a lot to do with my being in the hospital for 4 nights. I kept seeing them but I told my tdoc at the time that I would never again tell him anything important.

Part of me wants to talk to recent tdoc about what the heck happened with the talk of calling 911, but we do not have a chatty relationship. We never talk about the two of us.
Maybe she is just nuts?


Mari

Waves,
 

I hope you got to bed! :Zzzz:

Mari

just got caught up with your thread mari. I am hoping that you can get caught up with your sleep soon.
Maybe you can ask your new therapist to help you come to terms about your old therapist?????
sounds like you have been dealing with alot this summer.
I want some happy days for you.
(((HUGS)))
bizi

Trileptal 150
 

I just got back from the pharmacy. The pharmacist said I could cut the 300 pills in half. I took 150 Trileptal a minute ago.

M

Good Mari

I hope these help you. The Trileptal has been a good drug for Derrick.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

PS. He is splitting 300 mg right now too.:)

I hope the Trileptal is good for you Mari. I took it for a time, and it worked well.

waves

Paresthesia
 

Hi, Donna and Waves,


At 8:30 p.m. (three hours after taking it) paresthesia started and is still going.

I need to call the office before I take another pill but tomorrow/ Thursday is a holiday.

I will call Friday. I do not know what else to do.


Mari

Hummm... Mari, I think the best thing would be not to take another pill until you can call... Or, you could treat this like an emergency ? I mean, calling tomorrow even when it is holiday...

Hi Mari.

What you do depends on how bad the paresthesia is and how long it lasts.

Can you describe the paresthesia - location, sensation, intensity? Is it upper body numbness, by any chance? Are you experiencing anything else - somnolence, fatigue, vertigo?

Do not take another dose until it goes away, obviously, but see how long this spell lasts. I am hoping this paresthesia will resolve within 3-4 hours. If it does not, or if it is very disturbing, I would certainly contact a health professional before taking another dose.

FYI, this drug has a very short half life in typical individuals. It produces an active metabolite with a signficantly longer half-life.

I wonder if you can cut the thing into quarters? What shape are your tablets? It is possible this might be only a transient side effect but a slower titration might be good, if possible.

Take things one step at a time and follow your instincts.

:hug::hug::hug:

waves hoping you feel better soon.

pins and needles
 

Waves and Majo,

I took the pill at 5:30.

The dull foggy head appeared about 2 hours after I took the pill.
At 8:30 pm pins and needles started in my thighs and arms. Then it spread to my face and other areas.
It is still going at 2:00 am although it has diminished a great deal and is mostly in arms and face.

I am glad I took the initial dose early enough in the evening that I could
1. be awake to notice it
2. be awake to notice it diminish.


Mari

So, it has actually spread correct ?

I do not like this side effect Mari... Maybe this is not the med for you... Im usually not too paranoid when it comes to meds side effects, but this doesnt sound too good...

Please call tomorrow....

:hug:

Majo,

I feel better now.

At 5:00 am the pins and needles feeling is mostly gone except for some kind of risdual-like effect in face and arms.


These meds are weird.
You never know what you are going to get until you put them in your mouth and swallow.
When I was young, I was brave (or stupid, not sure which) and willing to take meds to get better.

Mari

Hahaha ! You are right Mari...

It "amuses" me how meds have a looong list of side effects and we have to swallow one to discover which one(s) are we gonna get :rolleyes:

Im glad to read you are better now...

You know, some side effects are just temporary but others mean we do not process the med so... Argh. It is dificult.

:hug:

Not sure you want to hear this.

But there is a 150mg pill. But I'm personally not sure this is a good idea
for you.

Glad its stopped though.

Donna:grouphug::hug:

Trileptal & paresthesia
 

Dear Mari

I am glad that the paresthesia wore off. I hope you are feeling ok today. :):hug::hug:

If you still feel ok about giving the med a shot, please call the doctor first. If she says it is OK, I would let her know about your reactions to baby doses of other meds, and ask for the smaller tablets.

FYI, one symptom that arose after almost a year of my taking Trileptal without incident... was paresthesia. I didn't want to share this before, Mari, because I didn't want to precondition you to expect it. I did not have the tingling/pins and needles kind, I had numbness affecting my arms first, then spreading to my torso, neck and face. For some weird reason it was upper body only.

I also had general weakness, somnolence, and some vertigo - I could not stand up and usually had to lay down while the effects wore off. Sometimes I'd fall asleep as nothing would combat that somnolence.

Fortunately the effects did not last long and occurred only with my AM dose I was taking 600mg 2ce a day. The s/e would start about 2-3 hours after taking the am dose and last about 2-4 hours.

Now, I had a bad virus for quite some time right before this happened; I couldn't help feeling that had something to do with it. My doc had me try a lower dose for about 10 days but never ordered a blood draw. :rolleyes::( When the sx did not resolve, he had me d/c. I was sad to have to stop the drug because it had been great until then and all prior bloodwork had been good. I have always wondered if I might not have been able to interrupt treatment for a short while and then resume successfully.

It probably sounds crazy that I wanted to stay on it when I could not even sit up straight, but for some reason I still felt safe - perhaps because the s/e's reliably wore off. I believe in following one's instincts. Do what feels safe to you.

waves

sleepy. concerned about pdoc.
 

I am soo sleepy from the 150 mg yesterday at 5:30 pm.
I pray that the pdoc will be kind and helpful tomorrow / Friday.
I wonder if she will want to see me soon (instead of 30 days from our last meeting).

Probably I should call the potential tdoc as well.
I feel busy with all these appointments but I am not up to dealing with them and running out of time when I have to be back at work.

I could use a real shower soon. I am getting uncomfortable.

Mari

I was on hold with my pdoc's office for thirty minutes.
Then I hung up.
I will try on Monday to let her know about the paresthesia.

. . . aslo . . . very sleepy still from that 150 mgs I took Wednesday at 5:30 pm.

M

Ugh! :(:mad:

I know you are drowning in phone calls so I almost hate to ask.

You had called a different pdoc last Friday (I think?) but had not got an appointment yet? What if you called that pdoc - maybe he/she has an early enough opening. They might be able to get you in - especially if you say you have an urgency.

It is not as though you have history with the prescribing pdoc, so a different doctor could just as easily help you here. My thought is you could perhaps kill two birds with one stone - resolve med situation + get in with a new person (maybe even capitalizing on med s/e to accelerate the process).

I am sorry you are still feeling sleepy from the drug. :( I hope it lifts soon.

:circlelove:

waves

Waves,

Sort of. I am not keeping track of my phone calls so I am not sure of that phone number. . . will have to look through my scraps of paper or call again on Monday.

I did have a voice mail from my insurance company Fri about a psychiatrist I asked them to find for me several days ago. (I put in no criteria during that call -- just somebody). So I have a phone number and a first name and a garbled last name. I might call his (potential new pdoc's) number on Monday. Apparently, he can get me an appointment soon (that's why the insurance offers this service).

I want someone reasonably close, someone who can listen to me talk through the meds, someone with a friendly office and phone set up, and someone brilliant.
Trileptal was a bad choice. It stunk as much as the Tergretol did 20 years ago -- too much head fog. (I was clear at the appointment last week about the head fog consideration being important.)
And now I have to hope that someone can figure out the parasthesia.

I feel it might be weird to have to explain to someone how I am on the third pdoc in a short amount of time. What a mess.

And then I have to tell the next pdoc that my regimen of 10 years or so almost works.
I am hoping for a bump up in mood.

I have my own records of the ADs old pdoc and I tried. I have one or two left as possibilities but I would have to be a very hopeful person to expect that someone would focus on what I know and do not know about myself.

The pdoc last week mentioned Lamictal and then went with Trileptal. It was a four min convo so I do not know what was her thinking about Lamictal.
Does Lamicatal cause brain fog?
The crap Trileptal was a lot like the Ambien experience. Not pleasant.

I wonder if low dose Lithium would help with depression (and not cause paresthesia.) It major sucked when I took it many years ago with a AD but with no AD on board, I would not be in a continuous mixed mood this time.


Mari

old tdoc
 

And I have to call old tdoc. She has called me twice . . .

. . she said that I had an appt planned for June 28 and I saw the psychiatrist and she and I had not talked or seen each other for a while . . . .

M

Waves,

That is weird what you went through.

Mari

washing machine appears to be broken
 

The washing machine did not drain my last load of clothes.
It has standing water right now but I am not going to deal with it because I want to go to bed.

I left a note for hubby about not washing his clothes. (He might not notice what is going on.)


I do not want to deal with him. He freaks out and then gets upset when something does not go right. . . . ESP anything related to his clothes. :confused:

M

Waves,

What was going on in your mind when that was happening? It must have been scary the first time.


Mari

pdoc and med choices
 

These are good requirements. I hope you find someone soon.
Ohhh crud. No doubt. The two drugs are chemically related. Trileptal has a more favorable interactions profile but individual reactions and side effects are often similar to those experienced with Tegretol. :(

I think I'd really just focus on getting yourself in with a different doctor. I did not realize about the Tegretol. Why even bother with that lady when her office situation sucks and if she even had your files she either did not read them or did not use much deductive logic.

Yes, I thought of that, but it is not your fault:

1. You would not be in this situation at all, if your insurance still covered the pdoc you were with for 10 years+. One down.
2. A first interview with someone new is, if anything longer, than the typical 15 minutes. She gave you FOUR... and failed to consider your medication (bad experience with Tegretol) history. Two down.

This is totally consistent with the fact you are not changing pdocs due to dissatisfaction but only because of a big bureaucratic bump in the road.

If you said you were depressed, she probably thought Lamictal could help there. Lamictal is used as a stabilizer but does not have the typical profile of mania prevention. It works more below baseline, and can be given as coadjuvant antidepressant therapy. It can be tried on its own for those intolerant to AD's. It is also reported to prolong time between cycles.It can cause brain fog but then so can a lot of drugs - benzo's for instance. FWIW, Lamictal is chemically UNrelated to Tegretol, whereas Trileptal IS chemically related to Tegretol.

Honestly, I dunno. I have wondered that myself. I've read conflicting information on Lithium for depression - some things suggest it is helpful, others that it only works above baseline. Still other sources suggest it can cause depression, but I believe this is associated with long term use and/or high dose.

waves

calling old tdoc
 

Good luck with this. I realize it is hard. I do agree you should call her back at this point, but you can be as brief as you need to about what is going on. :hug::hug::hug:

waves