Bizi,

Is this the new computer you guys got recently???? :( :eek: Was it new-new or refurbished?

Frustrating, yes. Mind of own, no. (I know it looks that way.)

Did you figure out what the problem was, or did it just "decide to start working"?

waves

Waves,

It has been hard for me to write for the past too or three days.
I injured my typing hand (right). (It is silly so I do not want to talk about it -- at least not today. The point is it is hard to type and hard to handle the mouse and I am extremely right hand-dominate -- can do very little with left hand.

The point of that was to say that I bolded some of your stuff and the stuff that was already bolded I turned green.
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I hope that you do not feel that I was dismissing / diminishing the pain/ache/disappointment/irritation/unhappyiness that you are/were feeling.

By my mentioning (and again --my hand was allowing for very limited typing last night and is worse today but I can write this post I hope) the victories, I was not trying to change your mindset or give you advice.

I think my point was that we need to recognize when something good happens, or even more importantly, when we achieve something good.
We can still be upset when something is crappy/stinks. To do so is logical and emotionally appropriate -- feeling not happy about something is fine.

I did understand that you were reformatting a drive. Hubby used to do that stuff. But you wrote it in sotto voice -- small font as I recall so I did not make reference to it.
I think that we were hoping that the computer would not hear us or something.
And I know that open software exists.
Vocab I understand.
I realize TODAY that when I get lost it might have to do with the steps -- one of my brain processing issues.
And seriously, you can understand that now -- you were discussing more than one machine.
Anyway, I am explaining that I did understand and that I appreciate that you have been working hard and that this work takes a lot about of you.

I can relate.
I cannot think of anything like that lately that I went through but I "get" what you are saying.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Something that could have had devastating consequences.

Even IF that is true, the feelings themselves are legitimate.
The only way I know to solve that is through any of the various types of meditation or breathing techniques but there are prolly other ways.

To be clear:
I do not find it tiresome and I doubt that any one else does.
I am sorry if you got that impression.

Keep plugging away. That is what we do.

M

Waves, :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

I am very sorry about this.

M

Mari.

I'm sorry about your injury. :( We do not have to talk about it. I just want to tell you I hope it can feel better soon. Also, if and when you want to share what happened, or how it is feeling, I will want to know. :hug::hug::hug:

waves

No, not dismissing. I guess I thought you were trying to help me move past it, but I was not ready to do that. It sounds like I misconstrued your intent somewhat. It's probably an expression of a general feeling of mine, of social pressure -- and my perception there is not necessarily accurate, either.

Often enough I do run into situations where people kind of "fish for positives" from me, not always in a subtle way. I find that hard.

I am monstruously full of negativity. Just a fact. Now, many times, life requires that I be ok despite it, or "seem ok" to others... sometimes I even feel kind of socially cued to apologize for it, and sometimes I do. But the effort involved can feel dishonest and unnecessary.

Often, I just wanna do that thing people hate, not because they hate it, but because it feels most natural to me: complain, mutter, moan, groan and caterwaul. Drip with irony, ooze with sarcasm, and if there's so much as the ghost of a cloud to a trace of silver... dive down on that darkness and ride it like a thorobred!

It's not like I am all negative. I can be a truly vivacious, joyous, sparkling person and I can infect others with it. I can be serene, sunny, and warm, and I am all of that genuinely, from the heart. But I am a storm. I have always been a storm. And, often, there is no coaxing the sun out of the sullenness ...

I'm not bad: I'm just drawn that way. ;):cool:

waves

At first we thought it was the monitor but then the computer would not respond black screen so we just shut it down manually and turned it back on and it was fine!
like I said mind of its own at times....
thanks for asking.
bizi

I understand this. The biggest achievement for me -- bigger than the result of having a second machine to use on internet -- the biggest achievement here is having crossed that thick, suffocating field of emotional overgrowth I had to cross to lay a hand on that drive. I really doubted for a while I would do it, and was pre-disappointed in myself. I can't say I'm proud now, but gosh, at least I am somewhat satisfied and have got rid of the pre-disappointment.

Actually. :o I did that beccause I didn't want to upset you with technicalities? :o Maybe it was silly of me. :o
OK. :)

Ok. Thanks. Yes it does.

I think those are probably the best ways. I'm not good at applying those... they are best applied as a general discipline... like exercise. I believe I used to use running as a form of meditation but lighter exercise doesn't cut it for me so I'm kinda short on ideas. I thought about using lorazepam but didn't... I really only use it for emergencies including sleep-emergencies. But mainly, I want to teach myself to get through these things and I think the only way is literally to go through and experience, not to dull the experience. I think I have to keep trying, keep whacking at them overgrown fields whenever possible.

I am sorry if I am getting cluttered with analogies. I realized that gosh I am using a lot.
Thanks, Mari. The impression comes from me. Sometimes, I read other people's posts, and think, wow, what a great attitude. And I just figure that anyone with a great, sunny side up, glass half full attitude might find my sullenness ... well. Kinda heavy, maybe not what the doctor ordered, lol.

waves

Bizi.

The reason I asked is... it isn't normal. Computers are deterministic, no magic, no mind. There's a physical reason that happened. The kinds of things that would cause that occasional mind-of-own misbehavior can also cause the following, down the line, and without warning:

-- data loss
-- damage to system software
-- damage to more-or-less-expensive pieces of hardware

It sounds like the thing did power up but you could not see the screen? That could be simply a bad connection to the monitor, or it could be a power problem. A glitch is possible, but the fact that the thing now works does not necessarily mean the problem is gone.

Have Jeff check the monitor cable, both sides, but also ask him to check that the video card is firmly seated. Also check all power cords are firmly in. The monitor is the thing that takes the most power. IF there is a glitchy power problem, you might only see it in the monitor at first, but it's important that power be stable.

waves in geek mode

thanks waves, I appreciate your geek mode very much.
Jeff had already checked connections because the computer was on it just wasn't in sink with the monitor. maybe when he checked pushed in the connections of things he "fixed" the problem.
don't know.
Our tuner for our tv, which runs the sound, gave us a problem the other night. it would say power is off and flash then turn itself off. weird.
jeff fiddle with some wires and it stayed on then. jeff is good with this electronic thing most of the time....I am not good with technical matters they intimidate me. That is why I don't want to get a new phone.
Plus I hate change.
bizi

Mari I'm sorry that you injured your hand. I hope that it heals quickly. BF:hug::hug::hug: