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mymorgy 03-22-2019 05:25 AM

great news!

OhKay 03-22-2019 08:32 AM

Wow! You did save CRAZY money not needing that crown!!! :)

I hope you and your husband can get everything you need done quickly so that you can relax and enjoy the weekend! :)

BlueMajo 03-22-2019 11:50 PM

Aw Mari...

Sorry to ready you have been so depressed.... I admire you for going to work and the dentist... I know how depression feels like we have a HUGE elephant over all our body and wouldnt let us move.... I mean, poor elephants, depression is a heavy ugly monster :mad:

Mari 03-23-2019 11:50 PM

I can't tell whether I took my pills tonight or not.



The pill minder is empty and Saturday is the last day. So maybe I took the pills
for Saturday already and I refill on Sunday.


But I cannot tell by the way I feel.


I need a second strategy because this "plan" has been a source of stress.

Maybe I need to mark off on on a calendar.

bizi 03-23-2019 11:58 PM

A calendar is a good idea.
I surround my meds around brushing my teeth so I brush my teeth twice a day and take meds twice a day.
bizi
I am sorry you are unsure about your meds and the pill box. Do you have extra klonipin to take? That would be the only thing that I know you could double up on to help you sleep, and would not harm you.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

OhKay 03-24-2019 09:56 AM

I'm sorry, Mari :hug:
I hate it when I do that!!! Do you usually feel the meds a lot?
I take heavy meds, and have to wait to see IF something kicks in or I'll double dose myself... which I have done accidentally many times.

I started using those little bright colored dot stickers. They worked well for a while, but they were a PITA. I made a med error again the other night. I don't know if I'm ever going to stop doing that :o

Mari 03-31-2019 01:03 AM

Kay,

Yes, with the Klonopin and Gabapentin, I can "feel" whether I have taken
them.


It's possible that I could take a picture on my phone of the pills before
I take them.
Also I could leave an audio-memo on the phone to note that I took the pills and at what time.

Having the audio-memo feature on my phone has helped me in other matters.

EVEN IF I do not listen to the memo, I would have the option to listen to it if
needed.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
====================================
I will run out of Klonopin if I do not pick up new Klonopin on Monday.
YES. I AM ANXIOUS ABOUT BEING SO CLOSE.

The pharmacy does not let me pick up early and I do not feel
like dealing w/poc after her secretary gave me SHT about
temporarily losing the klonopin last month.

I do not feel trusted and I do not feel that I can trust the office.

============================



Re the other meds: I could probably reduce them
way back or skip a day if I had to BUT I do not want to do that with
Klonopin.



M

OhKay 03-31-2019 07:06 AM

Both of our ideas are very good, but I like the voice memo idea, especially since you have found it useful in the past, but I would do whatever is easier for you :hug:

Some of my scripts are on auto-refill and they get refilled crazy early, but I can only get 2 refilled by the skin of my teeth, and I don't know why. It drives me nuts. I can't imagine how stressful it must be with something like KLONOPIN (((HUGS)))

I wish your pdoc would prescribe extra for 1 month so that you would have a little more on hand, and wouldn't find yourself perpetually stuck in this situation :hug::hug::hug:

I would feel awful having to deal with the office staff if I felt they were somehow suspicious of me. Have you ever talked to your pdoc about them? I wonder if they're just a/h's and they treat everyone that way? :hug:

bizi 03-31-2019 08:43 AM

I am very fortunate...I have a mental health team that do not judge me.
However my new GP...that is a different story. I feel embarrassed by the fact that they have chronic alcohol abuse as a diagnosis for everyone there to read. It is there for the whole staff to see. My new gp was pretty business like...I wonder if she was like that because I am a nurse????
I don't know.
Yes the klonipin can be filled only 1 day in advance.
I have a small stock pile and sometimes will run out or close to run out when we go out of town for 2 weeks and will ask her to give authorization to refill meds earlier which she always does. I take just .5 mg. I also have as a back up if I need them, 2mg tabs.I have at least 30 of them. I have oly taken them for when I can't sleep.

Being so close to refill date and running out is very stressful.
(((((HUGS))))):hug:
bizi

OhKay 04-01-2019 08:20 AM

My pdoc prescribes me loads of Klonopin just in case I need it, but I don't fill it often.

Don't get me started on how I have been treated by medical people because of my mental health conditions, or various diagnosis that I've been with tagged by them. My favorite was "paranoid disorder" because I declined to have an RN come into the BR to "help me" cath after I'd already been doing it myself for over 5 years!!! :mad::mad::mad:

CRPSinSC 04-01-2019 08:36 AM

I take it as a medication with CRPS. I take 900 mg morning and 900 at night for allodynia. I also take opiates for the CRPS. I have never heard of pain patients using gabapentin to get high with the pain meds (as stated above)....I can't see how, as I have never "noticed" this medication other than it making me sleepy on higher doses.
It's interesting....my pain mgt. doc, before realizing I had CRPS, told me he didn't want me on Gabapentin, because it was a "nasty" medication, then when he realized I had CRPS, he wanted me to take "as much as I could tolerate." He doesn't realize he told me this years back, but I've never forgotten. I dont care for the sleepiness, but it does help with the allodynia. There have been times I tried to take less and the allodynia got significant...too significant, so I determined I needed this medication and keep taking it.

Mari 04-01-2019 11:10 PM

Klonopin update
 
Hubby went to the pharmacy and they told him that they did not get
a call back from the doctor yet.


I'm not happy about my care!


I have enough pieces for two nights (tonight and tomorrow).


I was at work all day without a second to make a telephone call.
I will try to call pdoc Tuesday.
I have emailed her in the past but I feel weird now about asking for
klonopin, a med I have been on since the 1990s.



M

Mari 04-01-2019 11:20 PM

CRPSinSC,


Sorry to hear about the allodynia. 'Good to hear that the Gabapentin
helps you.

I had one psychiatrist who told me that doctors prescribe Gabaptentin for all kinds of things.

I'm on a low-ish dose because, when I increase the dose, I get paresthesia.
It might not be a serious side effect (I don't know), but it's a weird
unsettling feeling.


M

OhKay 04-02-2019 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRPSinSC (Post 1274076)
I take it as a medication with CRPS. I take 900 mg morning and 900 at night for allodynia. I also take opiates for the CRPS. I have never heard of pain patients using gabapentin to get high with the pain meds (as stated above)....I can't see how, as I have never "noticed" this medication other than it making me sleepy on higher doses.
It's interesting....my pain mgt. doc, before realizing I had CRPS, told me he didn't want me on Gabapentin, because it was a "nasty" medication, then when he realized I had CRPS, he wanted me to take "as much as I could tolerate." He doesn't realize he told me this years back, but I've never forgotten. I dont care for the sleepiness, but it does help with the allodynia. There have been times I tried to take less and the allodynia got significant...too significant, so I determined I needed this medication and keep taking it.


I'm so sorry that you are suffering from CPRS and allodynia :hug::hug::hug:
Do your medications provide you with enough relief, or do you still suffer from significant pain?

I've taken opiates for surgery while on really high doses of gabapentin, and don't remember being stoned at all. I had surgery in November, and was on dilauded, and wasn't stoned, but I was only taking 800mg/day then.

I think the warning is because of the people who are already abusing differing kinds of opiates in really high doses.

OhKay 04-02-2019 09:39 AM

I wish you had just emailed her, Mari :hug:

I hope that you can get a hold of her today, so that you can get the Klonopin you need. Maybe you can ask her how to avoid this s- in the future?

I'm so sorry that you have to go through this anxiety... (((HUGS)))

bizi 04-18-2019 09:08 AM

hi mari,
missing you.
I hope you are doing ok?
((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Mari 04-19-2019 04:29 AM

Hi,

Thanks. I'm o.k.


Just overwhelmed with the same stuff.
Also sleeping weird times which makes it hard to get up in the morning.

I missed a meeting Thursday. Even with TWO alarms I slept passed the
time I was supposed to get up.


I am going to bed now at 5:29 A.M.


M

bizi 04-19-2019 06:59 AM

Thank you for checking in.....
hope you get some decent sleep.
glad that you are ok.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Dmom3005 04-20-2019 01:24 PM

Mari

I'm glad you are at least getting some sleep.

Wish we could help you figure out a way to get some sleep at a better time for you to get to work.

I know that is a wish for all things.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

OhKay 04-21-2019 09:25 AM

I wish you didn't have to struggle with sleeping problems like you do. I know that you said that you missed your meeting Thursday, but I really am amazed that you can do all that you do despite them :hug::hug::hug:

I'm sorry that you are overwhelmed...
Wish life will get easier for you (((((HUGS)))))

Mari 05-06-2019 11:53 PM

Please help.

I feel awful . . . almost like I should drive myself to a hospital right now.


If I wait to call the pdoc tomorrow / Tuesday, what do I tell her?
She mostly sucks so I don't know if I would follow any of her advice anyway. But maybe she has a suggestion about an o.k. hospital.


If present myself at a hospital what do I tell them that gets me help without getting me locked up?


M

mymorgy 05-07-2019 06:43 AM

I wonder if you went and told them you need a change in medication and your current psychiatrist is failing you and you need help and you are not psychotic.

Mari 05-07-2019 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1275178)
I wonder if you went and told them you need a change in medication and your current psychiatrist is failing you and you need help and you are not psychotic.

I called a help line and talked to someone for 20 mins. The guy had a soothing voice.



M

mymorgy 05-07-2019 08:42 AM

that is so great!

Dmom3005 05-07-2019 10:43 AM

Mari
I hope you are doing better:grouphug:

bizi 05-07-2019 11:42 AM

I am glad that you called the help line are were able to talk to someone with a soothing voice. Have you come up with something that you can be comfortable with....out patient therapy
Tell us more if you want to. maybe a short hospital stay would be good.
Are you unhappy with your meds?
Have you called your pdoc today?
What do you want to do?
(((((HUGS))))
I am sorry you are going thru this rough time right now.
school will be out soon right?
bizi

Mari 05-07-2019 09:25 PM

I called pdoc for an appointment earlier today but canceled when I saw how
the day was going.

I had a lot to do for work and it was hard. Also I think I found
what might be a huge error that I made about one year ago. :confused:
Someone else can probably fix it but I feel bad.:(


It was paperwork which means that I can exactly look back and totally remember that I did that paperwork on a day
when I was unfocused due to sleep deprivation/meds/depression
or whatever. .

. .So embarrassing. I hope it gets worked out by someone
with a working brain.





M

bizi 05-07-2019 09:41 PM

I am sorry it is so hard for you now.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

satindoll77054 05-08-2019 11:20 AM

Gabapentin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1269979)
I am really depressed.

I currently take 300 mgs gabapentin at night.
I think I can take more. Perhaps I would benefit.


Apparently people with depression and anxiety can take 900 to 2,000 mg a day. I saw that some people can take up to take 4,800 mg/day.

What do you think?

I emailed my pdoc that I need to see her soon and will call her office Monday for an appt.


M

My insurance company cut me down from 600mg daily to 300 after years of taking Gabapentin. They said it was too big of a daily dose.
:mad:

bizi 05-08-2019 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satindoll77054 (Post 1275200)
My insurance company cut me down from 600mg daily to 300 after years of taking Gabapentin. They said it was too big of a daily dose.
:mad:


That is not too big of a dose!
bizi

Mari 05-10-2019 04:08 AM

Self Care
 
Tonight was the first time in two or three months that I trimmed my toe nails.

I also sort of did a quickie version of exfoliating my feet.

I am so very depressed but I felt calm enough and had enough focus
to do this task.


M

bizi 05-10-2019 06:07 PM

you know that I would come and do them for you!
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Mari 05-10-2019 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 1275290)
you know that I would come and do them for you!
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

That would be so nice. :):):)

Dmom3005 05-11-2019 02:25 PM

Mari, I also was thinking it would b bice if she did.

donna

Mari 05-24-2019 11:05 PM

A brother of my friend asked me me to go to the hospital to see her (brother
lives on the other side of the state).


Hospital protocol was so frustrating and close to impossible.
When it did work, it was agonizingly slow.

I got lost driving on the way home even with the help of map apps on my phone.

-=-=-=-
Brother has a fcking vacation trip planned for Germany but has an expectation that I will continue to help with his sister.


M

mymorgy 05-25-2019 06:56 AM

It sounds so very stressful. I am so sorry.
bobby

OhKay 05-25-2019 11:53 AM

Those are high expectations... is this a close friend?
Is this the same friend that you were visiting before, who is kinda unpleasant?
It was nice of you to go, especially considering the difficulty getting there and past the hospital protocol :hug::hug::hug:

Sorry about getting lost despite the Map app on your phone. It happens to me frequently as well :hug::hug::hug:

bizi 05-25-2019 01:13 PM

if she doesn't have some one at home to help care

for her she is eligible for PT rehab...probably a couple of weeks at least.
sorry for getting lost....I hate that. even my gps gets me confused at times too.


(((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Mari 05-26-2019 04:18 AM

She's my friend and I will miss her when she is gone.
 
She and I have been sort of friends for forty years.
She's weird, but we get along.
When I visited her a week or two ago, she was not in good shape so I was not surprised by the hospitalization news from the brother.
=-=


Until the short phone call with the brother after my hospital visit with her
I did not know that he had a somewhat detailed plan.
He will move in with her or move her to his place in another close-enough city.


He said that he would get their niece and the niece's daughter to help my friend while he is in Germany.

He's an a-hole. But my guess is that he will mostly provide appropriate care for her.
I saw how he helped his mother years ago when the mother had Hospice come to her house.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Right now I do not know where my friend is . . . whether in the hospital or at home or whatever.


I texted brother but got no answer.



M
=-=-=-=-



Mari 05-26-2019 04:41 AM

medication talk at the hospital
 
Kay,

I was so frustrated about the hospital.
She had been in the hospital for nearly 19-20 hours with no decent meds.


One list of meds a student in the Pharmacy Dept went over with her and me included what seemed to me crappy meds
like restoril, neurontin, . . .Eventually she got a couple that helped her sleep although she was struggling in her sleep.

=====
The MD had prescribed serious pain meds that she had at home.
He should have worked out whatever was necessary to get pain
pills to her while she was in the hospital.:confused:


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