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mymorgy 07-17-2019 07:30 AM

can't wait to see the g.i. doctor on Wednesday. My stomach has been bothering me so much. I just bought more teas in hopes they will help. Terrified of the ac bill. Yesterday I got so mad at Marci for opening the bathroom window even though she wasn't cleaning it and all the hot air was coming in I slammed the door shut. Then it wouldn't open. I totally freaked out and thought they would have to drill the knob out. Marci doesn't understand about all my mental problems and showed no understanding why I was so upset. The porter came up but couldn't get it to open. Then thank God the handyman Bobby hadn't left yet and fiddled and fiddled as I was jumping out of my skin and then he got it to open. I had another conversation with Marci about all my mental problems and told her that the shoes I had given her Cole Haan fit me but I wanted to give to her. The top I just gave her yesterday which said it retailed for 71 dollars and I paid about 20 or 25 dollars I said I bought expressly for her. I have given her a lot of great clothes. She quietly said thank you a few times. She really never has shown appreciation or thanked me before.

OhKay 07-17-2019 07:58 AM

I hope everything turns out okay with Suri's blood test. Sometimes when you listen and try to support someone you love, it can be draining, and when you are waiting with them for something like those test results, you can share their anxiety. You are such a good friend to her (((HUGS)))

I'm glad that everything worked out with the window :hug:

It's really hard for some people to understand mental health problems if they have never been exposed to them before.
Marci may never have thanked you for things you have given to her in the past because so much generosity can embarrass some people, as odd as that may sound :hug::hug::hug:

I hope that the GI doc can get to the bottom of what's causing all your stomach problems and can help you (((HUGS)))

mymorgy 07-17-2019 08:09 AM

I love Suri. I don't think that was the reason why Marci hadn't thanked me before.

OhKay 07-17-2019 08:12 AM

That's sad then, Bobby. You've been so good to Mari in so many ways for a long time :hug::hug::hug:

Dmom3005 07-17-2019 11:15 AM

Bobby

I am not sure that before yesterday Marci even realized you would
like or needed a thank you. Only because you were giving her
things a lot and it seemed to be all the time. Some times people
just don't get it. And honestly some people don't have the word
thank you in their vocabulary for things like when given something.

it was engraven in me as a child by my mom and dad to thank
others for the things they gave me. Even when someone as a child
held a door for me I was to say thank you.

I remember many years ago now, my step grandkids, Jazmin and Deana
were with their grandmother Shirley, and were in our IGA store, the
had said, Hello Grandma Donna, And were checking out at the register.

They said, to the girl running the register, thank you, and please when
she asked them something. And they left the store after being rang
up and paying. The girl or lady said to me. Are you the girls grandma,
I said, yes, she said those are the politest young girls Ive ever seen.

They always say thank you, please and may I. When they are hear.
I said, thats because they are probably with their Grandma Shirley,
she is outside in her car waiting on them. She has taught all her grandkids
to treat people this way. And I know they always do just those things
even to me.

She said, well I wish others would at least tell their kids, its nice to say
thank you at least. I said, yes, your right.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

mymorgy 07-17-2019 11:43 AM

my antidepressant hasn't kicked in yet. I pray it is temporary. My doctor tried them all and none worked. My apartment is comfortable so I know it is not heat related. I am so depressed.

BlueMoon1950 07-17-2019 01:43 PM

I'm sorry to hear that you feel this depressed. How long have you been on your new medication? Will your see your prescribing doctor soon?

:hug:

Blue

mymorgy 07-17-2019 01:50 PM

I have been on it for almost four months. I see my doctor in a couple of months. I think it also raised my blood pressure to dangerous levels and my g.p put me on more bp medicine and then had to raise it. My blood pressure is still high. I am afraid to ask for a higher dose of the antidepressant because of my blood pressure.

BlueMoon1950 07-17-2019 02:04 PM

Can you call your prescribing doc who put you on this medication that is raising your bp? Just to let him/her know and that it's not helping you with your depression? You could do this before you meet with him, just a quick phone call.

How high is your bp now, do you have a bp cuff at home to test it?

Blue

mymorgy 07-17-2019 02:16 PM

this is the first day it hasn't kicked in. I would have to see him and that would cost 125 plus 20 dollars cab fare. He didn't warn me about the side effects of bp. When I woke. it was 165. I use the arm one and it coincided with my g.p.'s monitor. Later it was 155. Before the extra bp medicine it went up at times to over 180.
I had a stroke three years ago and it affected my right side, short term memory ,spelling and math skills

BlueMoon1950 07-17-2019 02:57 PM

Oh Gosh Bobby ((( hugs ))) sorry to hear all this. Thank you for sharing this with me.

I totally get the cost of transportation and co-pay issues as I have that as well. Where I didn't want to do this, my psych doc is not charging me a co-pay at the time of visit but will eventually work out a small payment plan for me. Also, and he doesn't charge for this, I get a video chat over my iphone or internet and that is not charged to me at all.

It's up to us to be our own advocate and read all the potential side effects, sadly, it seems the prescribing docs don't have the time to do this for us. Since you already had a stroke, I am worried. Do you take a baby aspirin daily?

Blue

mymorgy 07-17-2019 03:16 PM

i take a blood thinner for life. My doctor went off of medicare and I had horrific experiences with two doctors I tried. My doctor is giving his former medicare patients a break. I think he said he usually charges 275. You are so lucky. I get klonopin every month and he charges 50 dollars just to write a prescription. I also have trouble about spending too much money. I get out of control. I have so many books and I just bought another tunic today. I have been buying toys and bones for my friend's dog who he just got recently besides giving him hamburg. His wonder dog Mickey died recently so he just adopted Danny who is an aggressive chewer. I always gave Mickey hamburg. Robert has been so good to me. I am totally terrified about my electric bill since I have been running the new ac so much. I also had two operations because of the stroke
Bobby

mymorgy 07-17-2019 05:04 PM

i was reading a book i liked and then i realized my depression went away

Dmom3005 07-17-2019 05:44 PM

Glad it went away Bobby.

Donna :hug::grouphug:

Mari 07-18-2019 05:10 AM

Good news, Bobby.:)


I'm relieved when I recognize that my depression gets out
of the way for a while.



M

mymorgy 07-18-2019 05:50 AM

thank you so much. It is still gone. I practically always wake up with a stomach ache. I am sure the g.i. doctor will do an endoscopy. I can't wait to see him on Wednesday. I have tried antacids but they don't work. I am so thankful I had a colonoscopy since that ruled out a lot of stuff. I could sleep last night without the ac. I finally got four hours of sleep. I started using yellow dock and I think that helps me to go. I took magnesium citrate but that didn't work the first day.
bobby

OhKay 07-18-2019 08:11 AM

I think given your symptoms and their duration, the gastro will likely want to do an endoscopy. I hope he will, and can rule anything nefarious out :hug::hug::hug:

In my experience, if the mag. citrate doesn't work night #1, if you take 1/2 a bottle day #2 and it should get things going. It's almost like it stays in your system.

I hope that the problems with the antidepressant not kicking in right away yesterday was a one-off and it works as usual when you take it today (((HUGS)))

I'm so glad you got some sleep! :)
I wish you would get some more tho!

mymorgy 07-18-2019 08:34 AM

thanks so much. That is interesting about the magnesium citrate. Have you ever taken yellow dock?
Four hours of sleep is fine for me. three or two is bad. i try to take naps in the daytime but it only worked once. Reading another great book! Can't wait to see what happens. I wrote Aplenzin about blood pressure and asked if an increased dosage would make my blood pressure go higher. I hope they respond.
Bobby resisting another colorful tunic. I bought some more low sodium progresso from walmart

OhKay 07-18-2019 10:32 AM

I have never heard of Yellow Dock, but I can't take any of that stuff anymore since I no longer have any large intestines since the surgery. How is it working out for you?

Are you sticking strictly to the soup diet? Which is your favorite Progresso soup?

Do you feel that you need a higher dose of the antidepressant? I think maybe if they raise the doseage, you will probably have to keep an eye on your BP, then they will adjust your BP meds based on whether it increases or not.

Sometimes I have trouble napping during the day if my anxiety is too high. I don't like taking any Klonopin in the afternoon because I'm usually so tired anyway...

mymorgy 07-18-2019 11:05 AM

My G.P. told me I had to take my blood pressure every other day. I am on the highest dosage of the medication he prescribed but I read that other medications can be added if that medication isn't enough. My favorite soup so far is the low sodium chicken noodle. I wrote the company about Aplenzin and said I had high blood pressure and would an increase in the medicine drive it higher. I just sent it off this morning so I haven't gotten an answer. Yesterday I was terrified that it stopped working so I was curious about a higher dosage.
I have tried to use the digital scale but my balance is too off. The regular scale I own is to hard to read. I don't know what I weigh. I ordered more soup from walmart and am having low sodium soup for lunch.
Have you tried soothing music when your anxiety is too high? I have been constantly day and night been playing Josh Groban. I have been so jumpy. I don't think the 4 mg of klonopin are working at this time.

mymorgy 07-18-2019 02:44 PM

i just bought dandelion tea. I finally got the scale to work and I gained a few pounds. I read that blood pressure pills retain water and dandelion tea is a natural diuretic

mymorgy 07-19-2019 12:04 AM

I am depressed. I am so scared that the medication is beginning to stop working. I didn't hear from the company if a higher dose would raise my blood pressure, I will call them and see what they will say. Then I will call the psychiatrist for a higher dose. He might just charge me 50 dollars for a new prescription or I will just have to go in. It was so wonderful not to be depressed.
bobby
I am going to cuddle with Pudge

mymorgy 07-19-2019 01:41 AM

It went away.Maybe I am just sad. I wonder if it is situational. I am playing Josh Groban and I cuddled with Pudge. Cecilia came over for a little while to use my bike.I think she is going to do that every other day I am still so upset that when my ac wasn't working for a week and a half and it was so hot she had me over for just a half an hour during that time span.
My stomach hurts. I just bought so many types of tea. I think I will read. I can't fall asleep.

BlueMoon1950 07-19-2019 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1277914)
i just bought dandelion tea. I finally got the scale to work and I gained a few pounds. I read that blood pressure pills retain water and dandelion tea is a natural diuretic

I'm with you about insomnia. I'm up at 3:00AM and decided to paybills, etc, lol. Glad to hear your depression lifted. With a mood disorder, as my former psych doc shared with me that when the mood shifts, one can actually take more of the mood stabilizer until you regain a sense of "normalcy". But please run this by your psych doc first.

I understand about feeling depressed and knowing you are depressed too. It's an awful feeling. Cuddling with your furbaby will definitely help.

I bought this tea that contains Marshmellow, Slippery Elm Bark and Licorice. Slippery Elm Bark is supposed to help soothe the stomach. It was recommended to give to my cat. Ginger tea also helps with settling the stomach along with flat GingerAle. But check with your psych doc about these herbs before starting any. What types of tea did you buy?
I know this may sound odd, Bobby, but I learned a trick to reduce water weight, but you must first run this by your primary.

I know this may sound odd, Bobby, but I learned a trick to reduce water weight, but you must first run this by your primary. I drink 1/2 my body weight in fluid ounces daily. What this does is trick the kidney to release excessive water in your body. My Neuro-Otologist introduced this to me to help manage Menieres Syndrome (Abnormal Endolymphatic Hydrops). Drinking this much water helps prevent the buildup of sodium in my inner ear due to an in-balance in inner ear fluid. I am on a salt restrictive diet too. I do use a salt substitute inlieu of regular salt, but be careful of this type of product as it can contain alot of potassium.

Why does your psych doc charge to write a prescription?

What book are you reading now?

Also, some meds cause nausea too.

Hugs,

Blue

BlueMoon1950 07-19-2019 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1277914)
i just bought dandelion tea. I finally got the scale to work and I gained a few pounds. I read that blood pressure pills retain water and dandelion tea is a natural diuretic

Bobby ~ Be sure to check with your primary and psych doc about taking any teas that have herbs in them as they can interact with the drugs you are taking. Herbs are not FDA tested and some are not standardized.

Blue

mymorgy 07-19-2019 06:02 AM

I look for interactions on the internet. I won't see my primary doctor in three months. I drink a lot of ginger tea,hibiscus tea and chamomille tea for my stomach. I see my g.i. doctor on wednesday and he will probably schedule an endoscopy since I usually wake up in the morning with a stomach ache. I will make coffee when I get off the computer and that usually makes it go away. I just bought fennel tea,dandelion tea, bilberry tea ,sage tea and one other I forgot. Bilberry and sage tea supposedly helps diabetes and if I am not confused fennel helps the stomach. I forgot what I bought to help high blood pressure and cholesterol.. After ten years of worry I just had a colonoscopy and that came out fine. I guess I have more faith in the teas that have been used for centuries then I have in modern medicine. I drink a lot of water and I guess I will drink with the teas the amount you suggested.
I only take klonopin and aplenzin from my psychiatrist. He charges me 50 dollars to write a prescription and nothing when I see him. I am not on a mood stabilizer and I also can't afford anymore weight gain. I am reading a book by Patricia Oliver. I love historical regency romances with happy endings. I am not watching as much of MSNBC as I used too.It is too upsetting. I forgot what I had ead about slippery elm and did give it to one of my kitty cats but am afraid to give it to me.
fondly
bobby
Slippery elm contains a type of soft fiber called mucilage. Mucilage can decrease how much medicine the body absorbs. Taking slippery elm at the same time you take medications by mouth can decrease the effectiveness of your medication. To prevent this interaction take slippery elm at least one hour after medications you take by mouth.

mymorgy 07-19-2019 06:26 AM

I also have to take laxatives to go and I take probiotics which my g.p. suggested for my stomach discomfort.OTC things for stomach haven't worked. I really waited for the stomach issues until I finally had a colonoscopy. My psychiatrist took me off of the mood stabilizer that doesn't cause weight gain because he felt it didn't do any good. Topamax

mymorgy 07-19-2019 06:47 AM

I am also always tired and just started taking coq10 with pqq

BlueMoon1950 07-19-2019 08:44 AM

Bobby ~ At least you are trying everything with your stomach issues. Excellent news about the colonoscopy !!

From time to time I have to take a laxative and Nexium first thing in the am if I am having stomach pains and both seem to handle everything. I create excessive gas and stomach acid, so take Nexium when needed and 300 mg of Ranitidine at night. I also have colitis and have to be careful what I eat.

I was on the sister drug called Zonegram for migraine and mood. It caused kidney stones, hence why I can't take Topomax. Are you on a mood stabilizer at all?

Blue :hug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 1277951)
I also have to take laxatives to go and I take probiotics which my g.p. suggested for my stomach discomfort.OTC things for stomach haven't worked. I really waited for the stomach issues until I finally had a colonoscopy. My psychiatrist took me off of the mood stabilizer that doesn't cause weight gain because he felt it didn't do any good. Topamax


mymorgy 07-19-2019 10:14 AM

I am only on klonopin and aplenzin. I was on risperdal for years and then my doctor cut it out.He cut out topamax. I spoke with Aplenzin this morning and they never did a study to see if a higher dosage raises blood pressure more. I am waiting for a call back from my psychiatrist's secretary to see if I need to make an appointment for him to raise the aplenzin or if he will just charge me 49 dollars for writing it. I have taken antacids but they don't work. Warm coffee with half and half helps. weeird. I don't feel like eating in the morning.
fondly
bobby

mymorgy 07-19-2019 10:38 AM

I got a call back. He said I should double up and then let him knows how it goes. I just looked up welchol. There are so many side effect. It is for cholesterol

Rain shower 07-19-2019 05:14 PM

Bobby. I hope the tea and med increase help.

I have never had a physician charge to prescribe meds.

I enjoy progresso soups also.

mymorgy 07-19-2019 10:54 PM

I haven't either until now. Have you looked at the prices of the soup at Walmart?
I think they are great
Bobby

bizi 07-19-2019 11:36 PM

bobby, I think you should keep your air on because you never know if/when you might have a power outage....are they asking you to keep your apartment at 78?


bizi
ours is at 76 during the day and 72 at night.

mymorgy 07-20-2019 12:23 AM

they are asking us to keep it at 78. I usually have it at 72.

OhKay 07-20-2019 07:43 AM

I'm glad that your pdoc increased your dose of Aplenzin. It was working so well at the lower dose, I bet you will see some good results :)
If your BP rises again, you can contact your GP or cardiologist, and they can adjust your meds again, so everything will be okay (((HUGS)))

Please don't try to start drinking large quantities of water. About 8 glasses a day is the standard recommendation, and can include other fluids. Too much water could effect your BP and send you running to the BR with urgency, which could increase your risk of falls :hug:

I'm so glad that you are enjoying the soups. I like the ones with barley in them, but don't know if any of there are low-sodium versions.

It's good that you are keeping the air on at 72. I know that you are getting the same heatwave we are, too. So, I'm really I'm relieved to know that you have your AC now :hug::hug::hug:

mymorgy 07-20-2019 08:31 AM

Thanks for the information and reassurance. The higher dosage is helping. I woke up and I wasn't depressed. Practically always I wake up depressed and it goes away after I take the pill. I have been taking my bp every other day. Today is was okay 139 62 112. I forgot what med raises the pulse. Because of my age and health conditions I am not raising it to 78. I got a letter from jury duty asking some questions.I included in the envelop the letter from my neurologist to excuse me. If that fails I will get my psychiatrist to write a letter.

OhKay 07-20-2019 09:41 AM

Waking up not depressed is fantastic, Bobby! :):):)

I think the letter from your neurologist should be enough to excuse you from jury duty, Bobby. I don't know why they are still sending you those things. I would think at a certain age they would stop.

78 is NOT a comfortable temperature for me either. I don't think it is for most people. So, that is a silly suggestion on their part. I doubt anyone abides by it.

Dmom3005 07-20-2019 05:53 PM

Bobby

Do lots of your neighbors work during the day maybe.

So if that is the case they want the apartments to stay a little
warmer while they aren't home. Which is not the same for you.
But in your case going with what you need makes sense.

So it was a letter for all the apartments, not just you.

Donna :hug:

mymorgy 07-20-2019 06:03 PM

the email was sent to everybody


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