[snoozie]

Many of us have other forums that we visit. Usually we can find another site that deals more with a particular ailment we may have. I am also found at the ASAP site.

One of the things that I disagree with BT is that they will not allow you to share a link to another site. The SM site at BT was very slow if visited at all so it would be nice to let others know that there are other sites to visit where you will find others with helpful advice and friendship.

I think that when you cut up a site into different boards that only "certain" people can visit it has to make you wonder why are they so secretive? I know that when I was first introduced into this cyber world I lurked for a long time. Now if you can't lurk without signing up where does that benefit anyone. After all, all you are doing is reading and hopefully learning.

I like that our mods are open, friendly and share many of the same problems we all face in our daily lives. It makes this place feel more comfortable and relaxing. We may have our disagreements but they are handled in adult like manner rather than petty infighting and banning.

When I was a kid there was a neighborhood bully who when he didn't get his way he would throw a fit and take his football and go home so the fun ended there. Well we found another football and kept right on playing. Hmmmm kinda like we did here. Have a great day everyone...Sue

[Curious]

Originally Posted by jena1225

Where did you get that idea? Am I not part of this forum b/c I chose to voice my opinion? Somehow, that doesn't quite make sense. I post here often, although I seem to be a thread-killer, I am not the type to have to one place or another, I can do both. But because I choose to make a very clear observation, and respond to a post, has nothing to do with anything. So, I am quite confused by your statement

from your very own post jena. sorry of i took it wrong, but it reads to me that you consider yourself a bt'er who is visiting.

I think you guys here at BT2 should think twice when not replying to BT'ers when we visit here, and start treating everyone as if they are real people looking for real support

[jena1225]

Hmmm, I suppose I did, but maybe it hasn't occured to me that it even matters. Does it really matter? Like I said before, I like to post to give and receive support. Is there something special I have to do to be not just a "visitor"?? I mean, seriosly, what is the difference between coming here to post, and visiting?? Come on now, things like this are just petty, don't you think? Am I now the focus of being nit-picked to death for any special reason other than expressing an opinion like everyone else has?

[Pamster]

I just want to add a few points here, that we are all just people looking to find other people who need and offer support to each other. Whether we came here from a google search or an email from a friend last year when BT1 was down, we're STILL here and I can only speak for myself when I say that I haven't seen any heavy handed moderating on BT1 ever, probably because it went on in other forums that I don't post in, I am not saying it didn't happen...I can't say such a thing because to do so would be belittling the feelings of people who feel mods on BT1 'wronged' them in some way. I can say that I have had a couple run ins with reporting rude posts in the Chronic Pain forum and I was glad for the swift banning of the offensive poster.

People in pain especially do not deserve to be dumped upon anymore then someone who is emotionally distraught does. It's not fair that we have to deal with trolls looking for pots to stir up trouble in. I like NT and since the name was changed I feel much more at home here then I did before the name change when I was posting about how it bothered me-I've since settled that in my mind after seeing the name change to something really cool like Neuro Talk. It is a good strong name and I am pleased seeing it on the psych central home page, that is wonderful that Doc John cares about NT enough to list it on the PC page.

Another point I want to hit home is that no matter what we are all just people, people in search of other people to share thoughts and feelings and experiences with, so we shouldn't judge one another because of what happens on other boards. I think personal beefs should be taken care of in email or the IGNORE button be used, that is what the feature is for so if you find yourself in a situation with someone that is bothering you or upsetting you I would definitely engage the ignore feature without a second thought.

That said I have to admire the way this board is being run, the administrators are heavily involved and their welcome presence is comforting. It shows me that they care and are 'walking the walk of the talk they talked' and that impresses me. I thank you all for all you've done to accept me personally and to help me personally. Some of the articles Doc John posts are really important to me and I am delighted to find things like that here. I think that one forum he posts in daily really is a great asset to NT and I thank you Doc John.

And thank you too KimmyDawn & Curious & Chemar, you all are doing a great job, thanks to the other staffers who's names I don't remember at this moment, you've all conducted yourselves with class and I appreciate it. I don't like to see BT1 bashing though, I love BT and will be there until it's no longer there for people...I also am growing to love NT, it's become another place I load up before bed and right after booting up because I know my friends are here just as I know I have friends there on BT. One shouldn't be judged for posting on another board. We should just go on about our business and post the stuff that matters, our friends deserve no less then our loving support just like they give us in return.

Bottom line, thank you NT staff, thank you for not bashing BT1 when it was having trouble, that said a lot to me, I saw Doc John correcting people in one of the forums about where the money went that people gave to BT, and when I saw that I felt very impressed, impressed that he cared enough to answer such a allegation to set the record straight. All I have seen of you Doc John you are definitely a class act and I thank you for keeping the doors here open for people looking for a place to find support and information.

[Chemar]

thank you Pamster

jena...sorry if you felt the subject of a mod-pile that was not the intent.

Just as you answer our posts I think we were simply answering points you had made.
Certainly my post was only directed for your attention when I mentioned your name, and to respond to the very specific points you had made, and thereafter I was talking more to ALL of us.

Bottom line is, this thread is welcome to continue as long as the polite requests that KD and I have made are heeded.

This is not singling out any previous posters, but generalizing for ALL posters.

We value opinions, we treasure free speech....but whenever these become even vaguely flaming or accusatory, we have to intervene, especially for the sake of members who already have quite enough battles to face in life, without having to see this one resurface.

Time to move forward doncha think!

[jena1225]

Nicely stated Pam. I also see alot of Moderation, and I also think that is important and that they are sincerely involved.

[kimmydawn]

((((Pam))))

Thank you. This is what it's all about on so many levels. I appreciate your kind words and regard. I feel the same about you...a class act. We really try hard and it's nice to know it's appreciated as the same. Will we mess up? Sure...already have. However, intent for the best is ALWAYS there...

{{{{Jena}}}}

I'm sorry you feel nit-picked. I think the opportunity arose in the thread to address concerns and it was taken. It was certainly not for you to feel nit-picked. I was speaking to what I've seen, experienced and witnessed in my time here, as well as adding hopes and tips out of concern for the direction that the thread *might* heading in.

I'm glad you're here to make the most of what you can find here. I hope that for ALL members.

There are many that use both forums and I say "GREAT SELF-CARE!" I'm the one who also feels badly for them when they don't have what they depend on...no matter where it is they generally obtain it from. We can consistently keep NT available for anyone who cares to use it for its intended purposes with a warm welcome.

Welcome

Respectfully,

KD

[jena1225]

That's quite alright. It really was the whole "visiting" aspect that baffled me is all. Again, I am fine on this end and thank you for the welcome

[Doody]

Originally Posted by jena1225

I have been there quite awhile, and can tell you I have never noticed any of the things you refer to, That does not mean it did not happen, it just means I never felt the need to get involved in the drama, even though I did not even know there was any to be had! Those who chose to are the only ones who got hurt. They say when you know too much....

Hi Jena. I know several people who were hurt and really needed the place. Long-time members in good standing, if you will; since the mid-90s. They didn't 'choose' to get involved in drama. The drama was, for the most part, imposed on them. People who should have been warned and banned, and their threads deleted, weren't. One of those causing the hurt is still there and in a leadership capacity; hence, some of us who know that don't go there.

Saying that those people chose to get involved in drama were the only ones who got hurt is...well, a slap on a lot of their faces in my opinion.

We already hashed out all of this when NeuroTalk first started.

Kimmy Dawn, Chemar, Curious or one of you lovely people...isn't there something that could be done about updates? I mean, is there a link to Doc John's blog or daily reports or whatever he does, that people could refer to when BT goes down?

From what I've read here, BT doesn't allow links to this place, however...when something goes wrong, NT ends up with people looking for help.

Not sure exactly what I'm asking for. An obvious link to Doc John's news briefs?

[jena1225]

Are you serious? Why is it that when you all have an opinion, it's ok because you are "cranky", yet when soome happens to make a state they believe to be true, it's a slap in the face:

DoodyAs I've said before a couple of times, I love this place. It may still be growing, but quite frankly...I get really tired of hearing about BT1. Once upon a time, it was a nice place.

And here I go 'cause I'm of the mood, but friends of mine were treated poorly there, we're here now, and BT is a thing of the past for me. So, I guess now I'll ignore, plug my ears, and not look at BT1 threads again.

This is NeuroTalk.

DoodyArtist, I'm just venting. One too many funerals and mishaps lately and I hope today's funeral was the last one I have to go to in a very long time.

It's just that, if people get started in on BT, it STILL gets my heart racing just a little bit more because believe me, I do have ill will going on regarding that place and certain persons in particular, and being the snotty brat that I am, I can't hold my opinions in to myself when I start getting reallllllly mad. I'm sorry for your folks who still go there.

I can see this all snowballing down a big hill so to that I say....

Seem as if there is a big double standard here, and this may very well not stop.

I am not the type to get "bullied" out of expressing my thoughts and opinions. To my knowledge, I have not attacked anyone, pointed my finger, mentioned ANYONE'S name, although alot of that has gone on here.

Perhaps you feel defensive because I said things you did not "agree" with, and I am not in your "group" or what have you, but come on