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I had 7 root canaled teeth extracted 3 days ago (some from 20 years ago). My roots were very deep and infected and there was bone loss around each tooth. What led me to doing this was 10 years of having a miriad of symptoms that no doctors could ever figure out. Dizziness, flu feeling, tremors, achey, fatigue, wire tingling on scalp, heart palpitations...
After years of seeing many doctors and not getting answers I read something about teeth health and how it's connected to body health..duh! Right? Well it never occurred to me and no body every mentioned it! Anyway after much investigation and research I have since learned about root canals and their connection with illnesses in your body and mercury dangers. I had my one mercury filling removed and all seven root canals removed so we will see how i feel soon! It has to at least help my immune system greatly which has been really suffering. Also, I had a toxic metals test Which came up high in lead and mercury (I had it a cpl months after I had my mercury filling out).
I have a question for Bryanna...I remember you telling someone there is lead and mercury in gutta percha. Are you talking about before early 90's? Or is that still going on? I did have root canals dating back to 1989-90 so I'm curious what kind of material they packed into my root canals.
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Btw...the x-rays didn't even show my RC teeth were full of infection. Only saw when they were pulled!!

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I had 7 root canaled teeth extracted 3 days ago (some from 20 years ago). My roots were very deep and infected and there was bone loss around each tooth. What led me to doing this was 10 years of having a miriad of symptoms that no doctors could ever figure out. Dizziness, flu feeling, tremors, achey, fatigue, wire tingling on scalp, heart palpitations...
After years of seeing many doctors and not getting answers I read something about teeth health and how it's connected to body health..duh! Right? Well it never occurred to me and no body every mentioned it! Anyway after much investigation and research I have since learned about root canals and their connection with illnesses in your body and mercury dangers. I had my one mercury filling removed and all seven root canals removed so we will see how i feel soon! It has to at least help my immune system greatly which has been really suffering. Also, I had a toxic metals test Which came up high in lead and mercury (I had it a cpl months after I had my mercury filling out).
I have a question for Bryanna...I remember you telling someone there is lead and mercury in gutta percha. Are you talking about before early 90's? Or is that still going on? I did have root canals dating back to 1989-90 so I'm curious what kind of material they packed into my root canals.
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Hi natachina,

Thank you for sharing your story with us here.

Gutta percha is made from a tropical tree. It is a tough plastic and latex material with a rubber consistency. Gutta percha itself does not show up on radio graphs. So to use it in dentistry heavy metals like lead or mercury is often added to the material which does show up on radio graphs. Other chemicals like formocreasol or parachlorophenol are often added. So it is a toxic material for everybody but more so for those who have allergies, especially a latex allergy. The gutta percha used in dentistry today is the same or similar to what it was 30 years or so ago. Different manufacturers add or remove different chemicals for different purposes.

The chemical disinfectants/medicaments used during a root canal procedure, in addition to gutta percha, are used purposely because they don't wash out or dissipate over time. These chemicals eventually make there way beyond the tooth. The longer these teeth are retained, the further the proliferation.

By removing those teeth, you have reduced the toxic burden on your immune system. However, because they were retained for so long, there is no way to know how much your physical health will improve.

I hope you feel some instant relief and continue to improve. But it is imperative that you get guidance from a Naturopathic physician or a Nutritionist to help you restore your health back. It is usually a long process and one that is most beneficial when you have the proper guidance.

Thanks again for sharing. Please stay in touch with your progress!!
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I had 7 root canaled teeth extracted 3 days ago (some from 20 years ago). My roots were very deep and infected and there was bone loss around each tooth. What led me to doing this was 10 years of having a miriad of symptoms that no doctors could ever figure out. Dizziness, flu feeling, tremors, achey, fatigue, wire tingling on scalp, heart palpitations...
After years of seeing many doctors and not getting answers I read something about teeth health and how it's connected to body health..duh! Right? Well it never occurred to me and no body every mentioned it! Anyway after much investigation and research I have since learned about root canals and their connection with illnesses in your body and mercury dangers. I had my one mercury filling removed and all seven root canals removed so we will see how i feel soon! It has to at least help my immune system greatly which has been really suffering. Also, I had a toxic metals test Which came up high in lead and mercury (I had it a cpl months after I had my mercury filling out).
I have a question for Bryanna...I remember you telling someone there is lead and mercury in gutta percha. Are you talking about before early 90's? Or is that still going on? I did have root canals dating back to 1989-90 so I'm curious what kind of material they packed into my root canals.
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Hi Bryanna, first I would like to say how i appreciate your knowledge and the time you put in to this group. I have learned so much from you here. Thank you!
Also, thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Now I have a better understanding of the materials they use. I have always been a healthy person (minus all of that the candy I ate in my teens which gave me the teeth issues). I eat healthy, work out, live in the country, grow my own veggies ect. conscious about my environment etc...I truly believe the reasons for my health issues and results of low white blood cell count, low vit. B12, low d & also high in lead & mercury in my system are stemming from my teeth. I have had sooo many tests! Blood tests, mri, bone marrow biopsy....
I am working with a very good Naturopathic doctor and is setting me me up on liver, kidney cleanse and chelating program for 3 months. We are waiting for my mouth to heal after teeth pulled then I will know more and start. I realize this will be a long road but am so happy to get those teeth out! After hearing about how infected they were & my jaw..and not even being able to see on the xray. Geeze!! I am really curious whether lead, mercury and also high toluene & phthalate (plastics & solvents) are connected to the materials used in my root canals.
Hopefully! I'm on to something& on a road to some recovery!!
Thank you for your time! I will let you know how it's going further down the road.



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Hi natachina,

Thank you for sharing your story with us here.

Gutta percha is made from a tropical tree. It is a tough plastic and latex material with a rubber consistency. Gutta percha itself does not show up on radio graphs. So to use it in dentistry heavy metals like lead or mercury is often added to the material which does show up on radio graphs. Other chemicals like formocreasol or parachlorophenol are often added. So it is a toxic material for everybody but more so for those who have allergies, especially a latex allergy. The gutta percha used in dentistry today is the same or similar to what it was 30 years or so ago. Different manufacturers add or remove different chemicals for different purposes.

The chemical disinfectants/medicaments used during a root canal procedure, in addition to gutta percha, are used purposely because they don't wash out or dissipate over time. These chemicals eventually make there way beyond the tooth. The longer these teeth are retained, the further the proliferation.

By removing those teeth, you have reduced the toxic burden on your immune system. However, because they were retained for so long, there is no way to know how much your physical health will improve.

I hope you feel some instant relief and continue to improve. But it is imperative that you get guidance from a Naturopathic physician or a Nutritionist to help you restore your health back. It is usually a long process and one that is most beneficial when you have the proper guidance.

Thanks again for sharing. Please stay in touch with your progress!!
All the best to you....
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Hi natachina,

So nice to read that you have been reading our forum and that you feel the knowledge you have gained from here has been helpful to you

I am always happy to hear when someone has made positive changes in their life for the betterment of their health. All of the things you are doing are going to benefit you. The more committed you are to this journey of wellness, the healthier you will become.

I know many people who have had very positive experiences working with a Naturopathic physician.... myself included You just need to keep in mind that when you make changes to your diet and lifestyle, it takes time for your immune system to accept those changes and respond favorably. Our immune system has a memory and everything that happens to us, everything we do, eat, breathe, and think all gets stored in that memory. This certainly makes sense if you think of how an auto immune condition develops over time eventually causing the immune system to attack itself. The original memories will always be there but we can alter the pattern of our autoimmunity from negative to positive by deliberately removing the toxicities that we have control over in our life and in our food. Daily exercise also helps rid our body of toxins and it works wonders on our physical, mental and emotional health as well.

Regarding the root canals that you had done several years ago.... or even more recently. Without question toxic medicaments and fillers were used during all of those procedures. All root canal procedures, even those done by some holistic dentists, utilize toxic chemicals to attempt to disinfect and kill off nerve tissue. So it is almost irrelevant which medicaments was used because it sounds like your goal is to rid your body of as much of the poison, whatever it is, as possible.

I am here if you have any questions or concerns that you think I may be able to help you with and please keep us informed along your journey.

I wish you well, take good care of yourself!!
Bryanna






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Hi Bryanna, first I would like to say how i appreciate your knowledge and the time you put in to this group. I have learned so much from you here. Thank you!
Also, thank you for getting back to me so quickly. Now I have a better understanding of the materials they use. I have always been a healthy person (minus all of that the candy I ate in my teens which gave me the teeth issues). I eat healthy, work out, live in the country, grow my own veggies ect. conscious about my environment etc...I truly believe the reasons for my health issues and results of low white blood cell count, low vit. B12, low d & also high in lead & mercury in my system are stemming from my teeth. I have had sooo many tests! Blood tests, mri, bone marrow biopsy....
I am working with a very good Naturopathic doctor and is setting me me up on liver, kidney cleanse and chelating program for 3 months. We are waiting for my mouth to heal after teeth pulled then I will know more and start. I realize this will be a long road but am so happy to get those teeth out! After hearing about how infected they were & my jaw..and not even being able to see on the xray. Geeze!! I am really curious whether lead, mercury and also high toluene & phthalate (plastics & solvents) are connected to the materials used in my root canals.
Hopefully! I'm on to something& on a road to some recovery!!
Thank you for your time! I will let you know how it's going further down the road.
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Hi Bryanna, it has been one week now and from the beginning I have been in a lot of pain. Because of so much pain I went back to my dentist and he said everything looked good...no dry socket, infection ect..
I have been having deep sharp pain in my sockets (more in right side) & aching as well as skin of course hurting. The deep sharp pain requires I take ibuprofen every 5-6 hrs to relieve it And i cannot sleep through the night w/ taking ibuprofen (which I hate taking). particularly lately ..in the last cpl of days I have been feelin a lot of pressure in my jaws and temples and under eyes , around nose that seems to come and go, it is VERY uncomfortable. Do you think I may be having this pressure and pain still due to how many teeth, how difficult a cpl of them were, (long roots, Xtra root & spayed out) & also infected root canaled teeth and infected bone that had to get scraped away? Maybe it's taking longer? Here are the teeth numbers so you have an idea which ones.
Upper right #'s 2, 3, 4, upper left #'s 13, 14, 15 & botom right # 31
Also, my symptoms have been really acting up since teeth pulled..tremors ect.. I think maybe because body overloaded and on overdrive, also maybe infection and toxins filtering through my body?
Also, I am trying to figure out were high levels of Mercury and lead have come from, aside from my teeth I don't know how I could have been exposed. You said that mercury and lead is added to gutta percha to show in xray, every time I looked up gutta percha I found no mention of this. Only mercury fillings. Even on holistic dentists sites talking about dangers of toxic chemicals used etc..
Thank you so much . I really appreciate it!

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Hi natachina,

So nice to read that you have been reading our forum and that you feel the knowledge you have gained from here has been helpful to you

I am always happy to hear when someone has made positive changes in their life for the betterment of their health. All of the things you are doing are going to benefit you. The more committed you are to this journey of wellness, the healthier you will become.

I know many people who have had very positive experiences working with a Naturopathic physician.... myself included You just need to keep in mind that when you make changes to your diet and lifestyle, it takes time for your immune system to accept those changes and respond favorably. Our immune system has a memory and everything that happens to us, everything we do, eat, breathe, and think all gets stored in that memory. This certainly makes sense if you think of how an auto immune condition develops over time eventually causing the immune system to attack itself. The original memories will always be there but we can alter the pattern of our autoimmunity from negative to positive by deliberately removing the toxicities that we have control over in our life and in our food. Daily exercise also helps rid our body of toxins and it works wonders on our physical, mental and emotional health as well.

Regarding the root canals that you had done several years ago.... or even more recently. Without question toxic medicaments and fillers were used during all of those procedures. All root canal procedures, even those done by some holistic dentists, utilize toxic chemicals to attempt to disinfect and kill off nerve tissue. So it is almost irrelevant which medicaments was used because it sounds like your goal is to rid your body of as much of the poison, whatever it is, as possible.

I am here if you have any questions or concerns that you think I may be able to help you with and please keep us informed along your journey.

I wish you well, take good care of yourself!!
Bryanna
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B.t.w. I am 41, fit (I workout regularly ), active country living, I work @ a plant nursery, healthy food consious (no gmos, organic etc..), beautiful family, happy life. . . Just ready to FEEL healthy again! Ahh!!
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Hi natachina,

So nice to read that you have been reading our forum and that you feel the knowledge you have gained from here has been helpful to you

I am always happy to hear when someone has made positive changes in their life for the betterment of their health. All of the things you are doing are going to benefit you. The more committed you are to this journey of wellness, the healthier you will become.

I know many people who have had very positive experiences working with a Naturopathic physician.... myself included You just need to keep in mind that when you make changes to your diet and lifestyle, it takes time for your immune system to accept those changes and respond favorably. Our immune system has a memory and everything that happens to us, everything we do, eat, breathe, and think all gets stored in that memory. This certainly makes sense if you think of how an auto immune condition develops over time eventually causing the immune system to attack itself. The original memories will always be there but we can alter the pattern of our autoimmunity from negative to positive by deliberately removing the toxicities that we have control over in our life and in our food. Daily exercise also helps rid our body of toxins and it works wonders on our physical, mental and emotional health as well.

Regarding the root canals that you had done several years ago.... or even more recently. Without question toxic medicaments and fillers were used during all of those procedures. All root canal procedures, even those done by some holistic dentists, utilize toxic chemicals to attempt to disinfect and kill off nerve tissue. So it is almost irrelevant which medicaments was used because it sounds like your goal is to rid your body of as much of the poison, whatever it is, as possible.

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Hi natachina,

You have had extensive oral surgery and also have toxins being released from those areas and in general your lymphatic system. The meds help with the pain and inflammation but they too are toxic to your kidneys which are major filtering organs. So your immune system in a quandary right now. I would expect you to feel pretty crummy.

Is it possible to see the Naturopath for some help during this time? I know you are trying to live as clean and healthy as possible, which is so important, but I think you need some further help. Maybe even some vitamin infusions would be helpful?? If you Naturopath cannot administer those, he/she can probably recommend someone who can... if you are interested in them.

Regarding lead and mercury.... both of those things are in the environment in many forms so you are exposed to them more than you realize. Gutta percha, here are two different sites that make a similar statement:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1058875

http://www.researchgate.net/publicat...odontic_points

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Hi Bryanna, it has been one week now and from the beginning I have been in a lot of pain. Because of so much pain I went back to my dentist and he said everything looked good...no dry socket, infection ect..
I have been having deep sharp pain in my sockets (more in right side) & aching as well as skin of course hurting. The deep sharp pain requires I take ibuprofen every 5-6 hrs to relieve it And i cannot sleep through the night w/ taking ibuprofen (which I hate taking). particularly lately ..in the last cpl of days I have been feelin a lot of pressure in my jaws and temples and under eyes , around nose that seems to come and go, it is VERY uncomfortable. Do you think I may be having this pressure and pain still due to how many teeth, how difficult a cpl of them were, (long roots, Xtra root & spayed out) & also infected root canaled teeth and infected bone that had to get scraped away? Maybe it's taking longer? Here are the teeth numbers so you have an idea which ones.
Upper right #'s 2, 3, 4, upper left #'s 13, 14, 15 & botom right # 31
Also, my symptoms have been really acting up since teeth pulled..tremors ect.. I think maybe because body overloaded and on overdrive, also maybe infection and toxins filtering through my body?
Also, I am trying to figure out were high levels of Mercury and lead have come from, aside from my teeth I don't know how I could have been exposed. You said that mercury and lead is added to gutta percha to show in xray, every time I looked up gutta percha I found no mention of this. Only mercury fillings. Even on holistic dentists sites talking about dangers of toxic chemicals used etc..
Thank you so much . I really appreciate it!
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