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Old 08-14-2010, 02:10 AM #11
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Finally got around to it today, sorry it took so long, it will be interesting to see what type of reply we get.

My brother seems to be doing tremendously well since his procedure. There is a lot of pressure for me to go to Mexico to have it done, but, I'm jut not reedy yet to do this, I need some more answers first.

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Here are some links to studies that cast doubt on Zamboni's theories:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...155710380.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...55710380.html"

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The Editor in Chief of the Annals of Neurology, Dr, Stephen Hauser, who is quoted in this article, is a well known proponent of genetics in MS. He also is a backer of the immunosuppressive drugs for MS.

Draw your own conclusions as to where he is coming from!

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Hi Faith. Here is an article that debates the two links you referenced.

http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuse...ow/pageid/2944

I know a woman whose father is having the procedure done in my area. Although I take many of the liberation testimonials with a grain of salt, the results will be more real for me if I actually meet a person who has undergone the operation.

However, sadly for me, Dr. Zamboni did not have stellar results with PPMS. I think it was one in ten that had noticeable improvement.

I am still cautiously optimistic. For me personally, it is like gambling. I have to be willing to lose the money I am betting if it does not work. I do not have the expendable income at this time.
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sw8689- PLEASE get me diameter of Jugulars. My Doppler came back 8mm left, 4mm right.

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I had a look around to see if I could get you those dimensions EddieF, but all I could find was one reference that inferred 7mm was within "normal range". I also found a children's study where the diameter of the Jugular vessels was 6.5mm, so I would assume your left vessel measuring 8mm, would fall in the normal range, even if at the upper limit. http://www.ajnr.org/cgi/content/full/24/1/45

It's good to remember that the human body is evenly balanced throughout, and when we have bilateral "anything", then the correlating anatomical part on the other side of the body, will be almost the same size.

With that in mind, it's pretty obvious that your jugular vein measurements are not even close in size, and if the left measures 8mm and is the upper parameter of normal, then 4mm would most likely indicate a stricture.

JMHO .... as I can't find an article to back that up.
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Thankyou for link. I don't know which of my Jugular(s) were done with Doppler. I need to buy a anatomical chart asap so I have 1 more thing to make my head spin. Tomorrow I'll hopefullly have report and cd images of last week's test. Maybe i'll be able to contact the reviewer on my report and ask the "average size" question. That link was interesting. Looks like narrowing is a problem for more then MS.
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Looks like narrowing is a problem for more then MS.
Sure does, doesn't it? That's why I'd like to be looked at myself eventually.
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