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Old 05-27-2015, 12:55 PM #21
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Oh Sally, probably 1/2% of our population know about OPC's....if everyone knew, good grief, pharma would lose tons of profits.

All I can say, I was at the right place at the right time in Aug 1995, learning about Pycnogenol.

This is the link I have in the vitamins section here:




www.opc.cc/opc-faq.html
OPC Antioxidant Reference Guide ... OPC contains real antioxidant protection based upon 50 years of research by Dr. Jack Masquelier and Berkem ...
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Here is another link and MS is mentioned. I DO NOT ENDORSE this company, nor any company for that matter. Just the Info.

www.life-sources.com › Booklets
After 50 years of research regarding the health benefits of OPC's (called Pycnogenol® .... OPC's also help deliver nutrients to the brain such as zinc, manganese, ...

At this site, go to the search and type in OPC and the info will come up and the mention of MS.
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Sally, I was sitting here feeling not very aware and that was my question!! Gonna Google.
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With both you and Sally lol, and did Google it. But so far seems to be nothing more than an antioxidant, primarily derived from grape seeds. I eat grapes and drink wine so covered . Along with blueberries, cranberries, love me some apple skin (respiratory health). But still get frequent bronchial infections, Ms and being tested for RA too. Can say no UTIs though so guessing the cranberries work great for me , even if the apples and juice didn't save the gall bladder or bronchi.
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Naw, I think MS is more complex than that.
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I'm not saying a cure for MS, just that these OPC's, powerful antioxidants, address some 66 health systems. I eat some grapes, but can't find seeds in them anymore, these are the most powerful part of the grape. And to get what is packed in those caps/tabs, one has to eat a lot of everything.

Just putting it out there and what has been pretty lifechanging for me.
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Whine is good. You want some cheese with that? It's a party!!
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Caroline what dosage of grape seed do you take?

What about Pycnogenol.....what dosage of that do you take?
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Kitty, depending on bodyweight, one has to take enough for one's weight, but I take more than my weight...why don't ask. Most of my friends take 200mg grape seed ex, I take that dose and often another 200mg later in day. I'm on it so LONG...I like vitacost grape seed and they sell a Muscadine Grape Seed (not extract) and one cap is 500mg...Muscadine grapes are high resveratrol. Read reviews, there are tons.

On Pycnogenol, one does not need to take both...when I got on "P" back in 1995 I believe I took 100mg per day. And did this for the first year..back then I spent $40 a month of "P". But the fact that my allergy/sinus issues were gone, that was cheap price to pay. Price has come down a lot....swansons sells 100mg caps for $17 or so for 30 caps. I still buy the "P" caps as I make my own skin moisturizer with a base of coconut oil/vitamin E cream and 2 caps of "P" powder....Mix this in a 4 oz jar and I make enough for a 6 month portion at a time. There are many "P" and Grape Seed Ex moisturizers on the market too....but I like making my own now. I first bought an anti wrinkle cream from swansons years ago and it contained Pycnogenol.

Being retired, I have a lot of time to do these things. I worked 40 some yrs and now I love my free time.

Love these OPC's. I have a story about when I got my mom on "P" back when I found how good I was doing....gotta take a break. C

Remember, if one is taking pharma blood thinner, then can't take both. These OPC's keep our blood thinned and "clean, not sticky".
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Back to my mom's experience with OPC's (Pycnogenol)...back in 1995 when I found how great I was doing on "P", I had to get my mom on it....she was about 86 and lived in PA and had her share of colds/flu/cold sores in her life...I started to send her a bottle to get on "P" and in calls to her, she would tell me, no colds, no more cold sores and her voice across the U.S. was clearer and stronger, I get goosebumps thinking of that experience...she was on these antioxidants up pretty close to her death at 91.

I had my dad get on "P" but he stopped in a couple days, he wanted some kind of miracle and had no clue about antioxidants etc. He died at 96.

She had a lifetime of OA and my sis mentioned that she thought our mom had MS...I didn't think so...My mom would wobble as she got much older, but I believe that was due to a horrid bunion and messed up toe that she would never think of doing surgery...thinking back I am amazed how well she did all her life and how much pain she must have been in.

Wonder now, how people did who had MS many many years ago.

Oh, back to the OPC's they contain anti viral, anti bacterial, anti fungal properties.
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