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Cycloset is not like metformin.

All dopamine agonists may cause nausea. But not all people get that effect.

This drug has been on the market for 40 yrs...or so.
It is used to dry up breasts in women who do not want to breast feed, and also for Parkinson's....in higher doses.

The dose used for Type II is much lower. You'll notice that the placebo group had close to the same drop out rate.
Alot of people get nauseous in the morning before breakfast, anyway.
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Cycloset is not like metformin.

All dopamine agonists may cause nausea. But not all people get that effect.

This drug has been on the market for 40 yrs...or so.
It is used to dry up breasts in women who do not want to breast feed, and also for Parkinson's....in higher doses.

The dose used for Type II is much lower. You'll notice that the placebo group had close to the same drop out rate.
Alot of people get nauseous in the morning before breakfast, anyway.


Hi Mrs. D.

I would like to NOT be on any meds IF I CAN HELP IT. Might not happen, but I have to give i a try.

I just read what Michael Jackson was taking on a daily basis. Oh my god, how does one live while taking all those narcotics. And how does one go to the bathroom?

I just took my long walk. I shall continue to eat my healthy sprouts. And I shall try to smile every day. Not easy when one's son calls up with their therapist and they demand that you UNDERSTAND THEM.

This happened on Alan's birthday. You can just imagine how that went over. But I remained cool.

I've fought this blood sugar thing for 21 years and finally things are doing well in that department.

Might take me a bit longer to get to my goal. But I am determined.

I even bought a pedometer and I try to do 10,000 steps a day.

Thanks much

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Bad news today about Lantus... check out the Health news forum....still too early for definitive conclusions, but it is worrysome.
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Bad news today about Lantus... check out the Health news forum....still too early for definitive conclusions, but it is worrysome.
Just googled it and found the following:

"New data published today suggest that there is a “possible link” between French drug maker Sanofi-Aventis’s Lantus insulin for diabetes and a higher risk of cancer, according to Diabetologia, the journal in which the data were published.

The European Association for the Study of Diabetes, which publishes the journal, also made an “urgent call for more research” studying Lantus and cancer. It said the concern was specific to artificial insulin like Lantus, not human insulin, and urged patients not to stop taking their insulin but to consult their doctor if concerned.

Of the four studies published, the one that first prompted concern was conducted on 127,000 insulin-treated patients from a German insurance database. Researchers found that one additional person out of every 100 who used Lantus for an average of 1 1/2 years compared with human insulin was found to have cancer compared with those using human insulin. The higher the dose of Lantus used, the greater the risk of cancer, they said.

But results from three other studies, conducted in Sweden, Scotland and the U.K., were mixed. One also found a positive link while the other two showed no statistically significant link.

Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Tim Anderson concluded that his “first-pass assessment” of the data “raises questions specifically about Lantus and the possibility that it causes cancer, as we had expected, but this is far from conclusive as the journal editors admit,” he wrote in his research note.

Worries about the results had weighed on Sanofi’s stock, pushing it down more than 7% on Friday. The company told Dow Jones Newswires late Friday that “the results of these data clearly show that no definitive conclusions can be drawn regarding a possible causal relationship between Lantus use and the occurrence of malignancies"

See why I want to go off of it? I have 3 vials left. I am down to 11 units. I say thanks every single day that my whole diet consists of anti-oxidants, sprouts, and GOOD STUFF. I don't eat any red meat and haven't for MANY YEARS.

Hopefully I can dodge this bullet. It's like they say smoking causes cancer, and eating red meat causes cancer, and then I speak to tons of people who smoke and eat meat every day and they are healthy as a horse. BY WHY TAKE THE RISK, RIGHT?

I am even more determined than ever to get off this.

Good Lord!!!

Melody

P.S. THANKS MUCH FOR THE INFO.
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Hi

I am T2. The night time hormones you are referring to isn't hormones. It is glucose, being released by your liver. It is called Dawn Phenomon sp? It's late and I'm sleepy! It's really hard to control, but can be done. You are on the right track with eating before bed, but try a half an apple with peanutbutter, or a handful of almonds. The reason DP occurs, is your liver thinks you are starving, and releases the glucose. Do you test before you go to bed? If you were up around 3, or 4, try a test then.

Yes, metformin will put you in the bathroom. Have you thought about Byetta? Some of us have good success with it. I did not. It will help you with weight loss, if you can tolerate it.

I lurk a lot here, and I invite you to check out the American Diabetes Assn. Message boards. Most of us there are into tight control, and there are some really knowledgeable people there, like MrsD is here.

I am Aussiemom1 there, look forward to seeing you soon!
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This has been a interesting thread.

Thanks for this thread.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum
indeed it is hormone related, just not "those" hormones...
http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.co...wn_phenomenon/
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