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bizi 03-09-2010 11:32 PM

diet thread.....
 
ok
So I find out today that my cholesterol is 247 which is high even though my HDL is high...so need to find out how my triglycerides are...hopefully they will fax me the results tomorrow.
I am going to start dieting and eating right and getting into shape.
who wants to join me? (as soon as all of my beer is gone)
bizi

Mari 03-10-2010 01:49 AM

Hi, Beth,

Quote:

find out today that my cholesterol is 247 which is high even though my HDL is high
So you have a good cholesterol ratio?


=-=-=-=-=

Hubby started the South Beach Diet Monday.

One of his gym friends lost weight on it so hubby wants to do it.
M.

Isis 03-10-2010 02:45 AM

I am more than ready to join you Bizi. :eek: Let me know when you start.

mymorgy 03-10-2010 05:41 AM

i need to lose weight but keep on flunking.....
bobby

BlueMajo 03-10-2010 10:59 AM

MEEEEE !!!! ME Bizi ME !!!

It is urgent for me... high trygli, high cholesterol... overweight... nasty !!

bizi 03-10-2010 12:10 PM

I am throwing away all of the let over chocolate from christmas...not much of a sacrifice becasue I do not like the ones left but get them out of the fridge! I am going back to eating at subway(so I can put lots of veggies on my sandwich) so I can count exactly the calories in my lunches. Mcdonalds also has a good grilled chicken ceasar salad with vinegrette low calorie dressing, I am going to try to watch my carb intake and make sure that I get enough protein to keep me satisfied. Yes the south beach diet is a good diet!
I will be joining our local gym soon.....
bizi

bizi 03-10-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari (Post 630877)
Hi, Beth,


So you have a good cholesterol ratio?

M.


I don't know what my ratio is...they have changed their standards and don't use the ratio anymore. So what used to be fine for years for me because of my high HDL is no longer fine...which doesn't make sense to me...hoping that they fax me my results today.
bizi
my sister told me they are more concerned about your triglycerides if they are high we will see.

Pamster 03-10-2010 01:48 PM

I'll join! Dieting is easier with buddies in place! :D

Mari 03-10-2010 06:21 PM

Hi,

I've been doing Weight Watchers on-line off and on.
Today I slept all day and just got up.

Here is my "breakfast"
1. a few nuts (ground so as to not mess up the braces)
2. one huge bowl of lettuce (one bag)
3 a little bit of salad dressing
4. left over turkey soup with mostly broth


M.

BlueMajo 03-10-2010 10:50 PM

Ok,

My plan is as follow so far... what do you think ??

-Mari's breakfast...
-Bizi's subway as lunch...

Dinner !? who has a good dinner !? :o

bizi 03-10-2010 11:02 PM

Hi mari!
I am so glad to hear that you slept all day.
a bag of lettuce is alot of lettuce how do you do that?
I can only stomach about a cereal bowls worth of salad, greens, tomatoes, celery, carrots. i use paul newmans low calorie, balsalmic vinegrette.
it is very good!
I just bought some diet tonic water to drink instead of beer.
Gin and tonics don't have any carbs....and about 100 calories a drink.
I figured it out last night I drank 1,000 calories after dinner.
that is how fattening my beer is....:(...
anyway
We had talapia with a cream sauce, fresh asparagus and a salad for dinner. I made the cream sauce because I was bored with how we always fix it....2 blueberry beers....they are almost gone....
bizi
and now the fact is that I will obcess about food and will drive you all crazy!!!!!!!!

bizi 03-10-2010 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMajo (Post 631293)
Ok,

My plan is as follow so far... what do you think ??

-Mari's breakfast...
-Bizi's subway as lunch...

Dinner !? who has a good dinner !? :o


for the subway use the spicy mustard instead of mayo
and pile on the veggies(spinach instead of ice berg for more nutrients)
I like the jalepinos peppers to give it a zip!

I think chicken white, skinless is the lowest calorie meat except for fish.
if you are going to use an oil use olive oil it is good for you.
try the spray on pam instead.
when you eat salad you have to watch the salad dressings! they can be so fattening!!!!!!!
don't drink any calories when you are dieting...the body does not recognise these as food so they don't fill you up.
plain water is the best. watch the number of diet drinks that you consume...it is so easy to say the right words about dieting and so hard to do the right thing.....and follow thru.
good luck to us all!
bizi

Mari 03-10-2010 11:19 PM

Good job.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 631297)
and now the fact is that I will obcess about food and will drive you all crazy!!!!!!!!

Dear Beth,
It is ok to "obsess" about food -- especially when one is starting a new plan.

If you cannot eat a bag of lettuce at one setting, you can eat salad three or four times a day.

Subway and the Talapia with asparagus sounds good.
Hubby would probably cook the Talapia with garlic. (He also adds either tumeric or cumin to lots of foods.)

I think I am going to heat up some rice and melt a little cheese over it in the microwave.

M.

Mari 03-10-2010 11:24 PM

Food tracker web sites
 
My tracker web site:
http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/

Calorie Count
http://caloriecount.about.com/



They both let you track exercise too.

M.

bizi 03-10-2010 11:30 PM

I just relogged into www.sparkpeople.com... of my stuff is still there from the last time that I was dieting.
here we go again.....I am going to get it right this time!
For a foodie like myself, dieting is all about sacrificing....
I must look at it differently.
bizi

Mari 03-11-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 631307)
I just relogged into www.sparkpeople.com... of

Beth,

Oh, I forgot about Spark People.
That's a good web site.
:)
You can still be a foodie -- just smaller amounts.


M.

bizi 03-11-2010 02:06 PM

THis morning I had a slice of my husbands friendship bread/cake and coffee with real cream.
I had the best soup for lunch.
progresso cheesey chicken enchilada, 2 cups =340 calories and filled me up! I also had a large necterine...so that probably made it almost 500 calories. a glass of water with some diet cranberry juice to flavor it.
WE shall see how long it holds me over....
I have not officially started my diet yet...still have a few beers left.
but am trying to find easy choices for lunch, I can't have subway everyday.
I was going to fix some eggs with cheddar cheese but we were out of eggs!
I have yet to decide which diet I will follow.
low carb or calorie counting....hard to decide.....
I better get back to work.
bizi

bizi 03-11-2010 10:23 PM

went to the store bought some eggs fresh zuchinni and yellow squash, ham slices, cottage cheese, tomatos, strawberries.


dinner, sesame ginger pork chop, one huge branch of steamed brocolli, water with diet cranberry juice, one blueberry beer.....(3 stouts left)
2 little dark chocolate kisses almost forgot!:)
bizi

Mari 03-12-2010 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 631682)
went to the store bought some eggs fresh zuchinni and yellow squash, ham slices, cottage cheese, tomatos, strawberries.


Dear Beth,
I need to go buy some more produce tomorrow too.
We don't have much summer squash or zucchini in the stores. Did you notice? And tomatoes are more expensive than usual because cold weather in Jan wiped out some of S. FL's tomato crop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 631542)
but am trying to find easy choices for lunch, I can't have subway everyday.

If Subway works for you, can't you have lunch there as much as you want? Especially as you are transitioning to a new lifestyle?

M.

BlueMajo 03-12-2010 02:33 AM

What is everybody having as dinner ??

I know it is bad to have too much food at nights, BUT, I have always felt way more hungrier at nights... :(

HELP !

Mari 03-12-2010 05:47 AM

Dear Majo,
My meals do not fit into that whole breakfast, lunch, dinner thing.

But last night I had two cups of black eyed peas and a cup of rice.
Next time I will steam some veggies to go with them.

M.

bizi 03-12-2010 10:39 AM

We usually have a meat entree, and a cooked veggie, and some times a salad too. They say that vegies should take up half of your plate for dinner. steam them instead of butter use a seasoning salt or lemon, fresh asparagus is in season so it is plentiful. we steam that and use lemon. we split the whole pound of it (trimming off the last 2 inches of fibrous stalk) and it is alot! and very filling and nutritious.
they sell pork chops in large quantities here we take them out of the container and freeze them in individual bags for seperate servings, boneless they cook up in a jiffy! we have a seasoning salt that we like to use on fish or pork or chicken it is like tony sacheres or old bay with cayenne for a spicy flavor. you can buy talapia fish in large quantity and they are usually individually wrapped so you can cook just what you want and keep the rest frozen..they thaw under water very quickly. we use the spray pam for sauteing every thing or a bit of olive oil, some times I use a bit of a marinade sauce to cook the meat in, i did that last night with a sesseme, ginger dressing and a little barb b q sauce it was good on pork chop.
bizi

Dmom3005 03-12-2010 02:22 PM

Hi All

I had a ham and cheese subway sandwich. And drink for lunch.

I am not sure yet what will be for dinner, because we are eating
out in town. But I'll post later if possible.

Donna

bizi 03-12-2010 06:53 PM

at subway the sauces can kill your diet!
That is why I reccommend using the spicy mustard, it is low calorie and you don't have to worry about any extra fat.
I had a flat bread ham and turkey with pepper jack cheese and spinach and tomatos and jalepinos, very filling at 400 calories for lunch.
So then I come home and drink my imperial stout beer that has 316 calories!!!!!!!!
I officially start my diet MONDAY!!!!!!!!
bizi:o
two guiness, big burger and loaded baked potato....Jeff said he may join the gym with me!!!!!

Mari 03-12-2010 07:02 PM

Donna,
Enjoy your dinner out.

M.

Mari 03-13-2010 03:29 AM

Friday's food log
 
Hi,
I had
-one quarter (thigh and leg) rotisserie chicken
-one cup black eyed peas
-huge salad with salad dressing
-peanuts


The peanuts tasted delicious. I figured out how to eat them with the braces. I am so happy.

Tomorrow I will eat some fruit.

M.

Mari 03-13-2010 06:03 AM

Vitamin B 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 630830)
ok
So I find out today that my cholesterol is 247 which is high even though my HDL is high...so need to find out how my triglycerides are...hopefully they will fax me the results tomorrow.

Beth,

B3 / Niacin
Quote:

"Slo-Niacin(R) contains niacin, which has been clinically proven to be an extremely effect agent for raising HDL and lowering LDL," states Mark Evenstad, president of Upsher-Smith Laboratories, Inc. "It has been studied for more than 20 years as a monotherapy for cholesterol management and as an adjunct to prescription cholesterol-lowering agents."
Triglycerides can be lowered with reducing carbs and added fish oil:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fis...atient-fishoil

also
http://www.healingdaily.com/conditio...glycerides.htm

also
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/niacin/

Do you think my info is correct?
I'm trying to figure something out.
M.

mymorgy 03-13-2010 07:37 AM

i won't say what i ate yesterday. i am eating instead of smoking. thank goodness smoking is so very expensive. it is now prohibitive. all this medical stuff and the not knowing is so anxiety provoking
eating non stop and feeling sick. I love peanuts
bobby

bizi 03-13-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

It is believed that the triglycerides/HDL ratio is one of the most potent predictors of heart disease. It is generally considered that if this number is below 2 the person is generally at a low risk of heart disease. So, the lower your triglycerides, or the higher your HDL, the smaller this ratio becomes.
Is this the ratio that you were referring to Mari?

I have heard good things about the slow niacin, not causing flushing...and hubby takes the red rice yeast or something like that ,it too is supposed to help lower cholesterol.
thank you for the links mari.:)

Quote:

Nicotinic acid
Common side effects of nicotinic acid include flushing, itching, and gastrointestinal disturbances such as nausea and vomiting. Hepatotoxicity (liver cell damage), including elevated liver enzymes and jaundice, has been observed at intakes as low as 750 mg of nicotinic acid/day for less than three months (34, 35). Hepatitis has been observed with timed-release nicotinic acid at dosages as little as 500 mg/day for two months, although almost all reports of severe hepatitis have been associated with the timed-release form of nicotinic acid at doses of 3 to 9 grams per day used to treat high cholesterol for months or years (8). Immediate-release (crystalline) nicotinic acid appears to be less toxic to the liver than extended release forms. Immediate-release nicotinic acid is often used at higher doses than timed-release forms, and severe liver toxicity has occurred in individuals who substituted timed-release niacin for immediate-release niacin at equivalent doses (33). Skin rashes and dry skin have been noted with nicotinic acid supplementation. Transient episodes of low blood pressure (hypotension) and headache have also been reported. Large doses of nicotinic acid have been observed to impair glucose tolerance, likely due to decreased insulin sensitivity. Impaired glucose-tolerance in susceptible (pre-diabetic) individuals could result in elevated blood glucose levels and clinical diabetes. Elevated blood levels of uric acid, occasionally resulting in attacks of gout in susceptible individuals, have also been observed with high-dose nicotinic acid therapy (34). Nicotinic acid at doses of 1.5 to 5 grams/day has resulted in a few case reports of blurred vision and other eye problems, which have generally been reversible upon discontinuation. People with abnormal liver function or a history of liver disease, diabetes, active peptic ulcer disease, gout, cardiac arrhythmias, inflammatory bowel disease, migraine headaches, and alcoholism may be more susceptible to the adverse effects of excess nicotinic acid intake than the general population (8).

after reading all of this I am scared to take niacin.....

bizi 03-14-2010 11:08 PM

WEll, I jsut finished my last "really really good beer" a coffee java imperial stout that I had been saving, can only get it in pensicola.....
It was so good.
I am going to do my exercises and go to bed.
tomorrow is day one of my diet.
bizi

Mari 03-15-2010 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 632667)
WEll, can only get it in pensicola.....

Beth,

I stopped drinking completely when I went on Wellbutrin a million years ago because the pdocs made a big deal about the seizure threshold and all that.

But I do so loooove Pensacola. :sunchair:
I have not been there for a while.
Is is still beautiful?

M.

bizi 03-15-2010 12:49 PM

yes we go there once a year to a place on santa rosa island and stay at a place called the paradise inn right across the street from the ocean but still on the sound side so we can put our feet into calm waters. You may remember 2 summers ago hurricane hanna was coming and we still went the normally still waters were very choppy and the wind was intense but we still enjoyed our short stay, less than 24 hours...It was a 6-7 hour drive, we tried to cancel but we were told to come ahead that the weather was fine even though we knew the hurricane was coming.we thought what the heck we will lose our monies for a night if we cancel might as well go and take our chances so we had a wonderful wonderful time for about 24 hours then woke up with hanna reminents knocking at the door. the manager let us leave and did not charge us...so we were happy about that. We drove out of the rain. Last year was fun this place has a tiki bar right ont he beach, last year I was bush wacked when jeff was making a beer run...wow those drinks dealt a punch!! and we met my cousin for dinner out. that was fun seeing them. Had great steaks at this irish place called mcguires....great food! Pensicola beach at night is wonderful.....that is where we saw the bioluminescense...the sparkling plankton when you stroke your hand against the sand at the edge of the water jsut after a wave comes in...you can only see this during a new moon when it is very dark out. something about a "red tide".....we will plan our trip around the moon cycle next year!

thanks for allowing me to talk about our trip.:)
bizi

bizi 03-15-2010 09:48 PM

I survived day one of my diet only by drinking 12 cups of fluid.
ate 1 1/2 cups of cooked chopped turnip greens, pork strips with peppers and cilantro and a tomatoe. I am stuffed! but hardly ate any thing during the day which is not good I know. Had a slim fast for lunch and some protein water.
I was still under calories even though I ate 9 ounces of pork!
today I went to the store and bought 4 ounce pieces of pork
(boneless pork chops) and individually wrapped them to freeze and same thing with this lean ground beef, made 4 ounce patties and froze them individually.
4 ounces of meat is all we need...jeff and I usually eat 8 ounces of meat.
so Psychologically eating only 4 ounces is going to be tough.
and not sauteing them in olive oil, only using the spray stuff makes a huge differnce. I used a little of chicken broth to cook the pork which worked well!
Are you tired of me yet and it is only day one......:rolleyes:

Mari 03-16-2010 02:39 AM

Keep posting.
 
Dear Beth,

I loved your description of your times in Pensacola.
It is a wonderful place.


You did well on your first day of your diet.
Don't worry about being perfect. You did fine today by meeting your goals to reduce intake. You will make more adjustments as you go a long.

What's on the plan for Tuesday??

M.

bizi 03-16-2010 12:33 PM

Have not slept well the past 2 nights:(, canceled clients both mornings will have to work on saturday to make them up. I have been up late(not later than usual though) reading the twilight books, and it is so exciting right now...maybe I should not read them before bed?
so it is 12:25 and I will drink a slimfast then my protein water and see how I feel. have a couple of clients this after noon.
my sister has been doing weight watchers since early jan and has lost 16 pounds ...I am so proud of her.
bizi

Dmom3005 03-16-2010 02:52 PM

I had potato soup from Subway for lunch.

I didn't get around to having breakfast. But that isn't unusual for
me.

I am still maintaining or losing my weight. Haven't weighed in a while.

Donna

bizi 03-16-2010 11:21 PM

I finally go the results of my lipid panel.
total cholesterol =247
triglycerides=62
HDL The good stuff is high=129!!!!
Ldl is higher than it should be = 106
That will be lowered when I start exercising
my total is higher because of my hdl being so high so I am not going to worry about it.
very happy about this news!!!!

Dmom3005 03-17-2010 07:36 PM

Okay

Breakfast Scrabbled Eggs
Ice Tea (both on the run to a training)


Lunch Roast Beef
Mashes Potatoes (Cheese Sauce)
Macroni & Cheese
Cloverleaf Roll
Ice Tea


Dinner Double Cheeseburger
Oreo's
water



Lots of water all day ( like 2 or 3 bottles)

Donna:grouphug:

waves 03-17-2010 10:05 PM

actually...
 
Beth

your triglycerides are excellent!!!

And, actually, your LDL is not that high at all! Often, LDL is higher than HDL. So even though your total is high - but not terribly so, your ratio is very good, and the actual value of your LDL is in what is given as the "near optimal" range...

Here are some reference values given by Mayo Clinic - i had to re-format them as they were in tables - the source tables, as well as an article on the subject can be found at the following link:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cho...levels/CL00001

Quote:


Total cholesterol


Desirable
- Below 200 mg/dL (5.2 mmol/L)

Borderline high
- 200-239 mg/dL (5.2-6.2 mmol/L)

High
- 240 mg/dL (6.2 mmol/L) and above


LDL cholesterol

Optimal for people at very high risk of heart disease
- Below 70 mg/dL (1.8 mmol/L)

Optimal for people at risk of heart disease
- Below 100 mg/dL (2.6 mmol/L)

Near optimal
- 100-129 mg/dL
(2.6-3.3 mmol/L)

Borderline high
- 130-159 mg/dL (3.4-4.1 mmol/L)

High
- 160-189 mg/dL (4.1-4.9 mmol/L)

Very high
- Above 190 mg/dL (4.9 mmol/L)


HDL cholesterol

Poor
- Men: Below 40 mg/dL (1 mmol/L)
- Women: Below 50 mg/dL (1.3 mmol/L)

Better
- 50-59 mg/dL (1.3-1.5 mmol/L)

Best
- 60 mg/dL (1.5 mmol/L) and above


Triglycerides

Desirable
- Below 150 mg/dL (1.7 mmol/L)

Borderline high
- 150-199 mg/dL (1.7-2.2 mmol/L)

High
- 200-499 mg/dL (2.3-5.6 mmol/L)

Very high
- 500 mg/dL (5.6 mmol/L) and above

~ waves ~

bizi 03-17-2010 11:15 PM

thank you waves:)
I appreciate the effort it took to make this for me.
(((((HUGS))))
bizi


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