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Old 12-12-2008, 03:25 PM #21
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I agree he should have gotten the ticket or warning. He was off duty, lied and speeding...

Being in law enforcement does not make you a better driver, doing 80 and having an accident still causes injury or death...maybe he didn't want it reported. Some states require you to report speeding fines if you are in any type judicial system. Would he drive recklessly if he had a suspect in the back seat?


Lighter note: I'm disabled, does that mean I can hit the person who butts in front of me with a cane or buggy?

Moi, one of my grandsons was arrested for kicking a teacher...guess where they brought him? Yep, right up to the assessment center...I had to treat it the same as any other child. He was seven years old, I had the case transferred to another JPO. My answer would have to be yes, if it was truly deserved and depending on the circumstances. My grandson is ADHD, Bipolar and pyromania...did he deserve the charge at a school that states they help students with these disorders?
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My son is a police officer....he tells people it's not speeding that kills.....it's the sudden stops that do.
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I was recently going through a small town and was going too fast. I didn't realize I was, which is what I told the nice man in blue. I apologized because I didn't see the speed limit had slowed because I was coming to a red light and looking for my turn off before the light.

He checked, and told me that because my driving record was excellent and he understood that I was not in familiar surroundings he was giving me a warning. That if I got stopped again, a ticket would be issued without hesitation. I was expecting a ticket and not a warning.

I either went to school or taught most of the local law enforcement here...would they give me a ticket if they stopped me for speeding? YEP...and I would expect them to do so.
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thanks everyone for your thoughts...

This is very interesting to read because all your responses remind me of these philosphers:

Plato and Friedrich Nietzsche on the Western side and
Confucious and LaoTze on the Eastern Side.


Basically, Plato and Confucious laid the "rules"

they are saying by virtue of men, we all need to have rules, rules for this and rules for that.



Nietzche and LaoTze basically said, it is because of these rules, that it ruined men.

they are arguing that men(women) should be self governing and that by rules were the beginning of destruction.

FOR EXAMPLE:

a son cried very hard when his parents died. He cried so hard that it reached the emperor's ears and he declared that this son is so filial that he should be commanded thus he erected him a plaque to honor him.

the other neighbors got wind of this so whenever their parents died, they cried even harder and grieved even harder...and some even went as far to destroy their bodies to show that they were truly grieving...

It's interesting that in Aesop's fable, he used the hunter who saw a hare that ran into a tree and died and he got a free meal without hunting thus he started to stake out the tree instead of hunting for his own food.

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I am not saying who is right or wrong.

I think there should always be a balance.

Without laws, there would be corruption. But some have argued that it IS because of laws, corruptions began in men.

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in the bible, where Adam and Eve were of pure soul until the corruption of the Apple...

but DID the apple corrupted Eve or did Eve already had intent to eat the apple. The snake/devil simply was blamed because he tempted her...but DID he??

Or did Eve used that as an excuse...

I have found so many religioNS old texts such as Gilgamesh that have discussed ethics and the different views of it are simply very interesting...

and this has been very interesting, thanks for indulging me...
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