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Old 02-18-2012, 11:51 AM #1
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Default Adverse effects of Vitamin B

I've just about disproved the dehydration theory of the doctor. The "new" things he did last week were a physical therapy eval and a stretch at the chiro AND I had added B100. Not sure of the date, bad mom I know I should write it all down (he's not my only child!).

I was reading that some of his symptoms: high pulse, anxiety, nausea, limb tingling are potential side effects of Vitamin Bs.

The one I give him has:
B1 100mg
B2 100mg
B3 100mg
B6 100mg
folic acid 400mg
B12 100 mcg
biotin 100mg
Panthothenic acid 100mg
calcium 73mg

Anyone else have a problem with Bs?
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current symptoms: still out of school, constant headache, migrating severe headaches, vision changes, startles easily, issues w/thermal regulation, delayed pain response, trouble sleeping, struggles for words/concepts/ideas, emotional about accepting what is, behavior issues esp when mentally fatigued.

currently on no meds (except sinus meds and vitamins) and goes to vestibular therapy.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:00 PM #2
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Some people cannot tolerate B6 in 100mg doses every day.
This can give side effects in some people.
The other B's in there do not typically cause neuro symptoms.

Really most people can get by with a B-50.
Buy a quality B12 separately like methylcobalamin --the active
form-- and take on an empty stomach. 1000mcg is the smallest dose that works.

Bcomplexes are best taken in the morning.
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worried_mom,

That dose of B's is quite normal and should not be a cause of his symptoms. His symptoms are classic PCS. There is often a delay in the max level of symptoms as the brain tries to adjust to the injury. This delay can be up to 6 weeks or even 2 months.

At your son's size and weight, he should not be negatively impacted by the B's.

As MrsD said, he could need more B-12 to balance the rest. Sublingual B-12 may also help. A blood test for his B12, folate and D to see if his body is absorbing them properly.

How is his blood pressure? If it is high, the anxiety and high pulse can be related to excess adrenal reaction. This is common to PCS.

Avoiding over-stimulation is important. It just feeds the adrenal excesses.

Many of us have lived with these same symptoms. It takes time.

My best to you.
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We have had many posters coming to our PN forum over the years with reactions to high B6.

You can have a blood test, to verify levels. But if people get
neurological side effects from B100 complexes, it is best to
reduce the dose. Everyone IS different.

B-right by Jarrow is one complex with a lower B6 content:
http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=57

Many posters over the years get good results with Jarrow's plus
the additional B12 taken separately.
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his blood pressure is pretty normal ranges from 106/66 to 127/78 but has sky rocketed during symptom outbreaks temporarily (from walking across the room!) to 148/101

will ask for the tests if he is not better by tuesday.
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Everyone is different. I have trouble taking the B vitamins. What I do take is by Solgar. It is called sublingual Liquid B-12 with B complex. For example, it only has 10 mg of Vitamin B6, but that is way more than you need. They say that it is 500% of your daily value.

Anyway, the liquid, sublingual B complex is the only one that I have found that I can take.

I hope that you find something that will work for your son.

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Hey, Worried_Mom,

I was doing some reading today about adrenal insufficiency. Apparently some forms of it can be caused by head injury, and it kinda reminded me of your son's symptoms.

Adrenal Insufficiency

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_insufficiency
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I just wanted to add in here to this thread that upon a discussion with my pharmacist, the B-100 is a good suppliment. He also included that the vitamin B's are water soluable. This means that whatever your body does not use/need, it is excreted through your urine (unlike vitamin A & E which you could actually overdose on because they are stored in fat and muscle tissue until needed).

I never knew this and thought it was interesting.
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SYMPTOMS: On and off headaches and pressure which are treated with Ibuprofen, sound sensitivity, loss of balance, sleep issues and short term memory loss. No issues with watching tv or driving.

WHERE WE ARE NOW: Husband returned to work on 2/6/12 and is greatful he works for a family owned business who has been more than understanding. Forgetfulness is present as well as loss of balance. Takes frequent breaks during the day and fatigue is present upon coming home. Has no problem initially falling asleep but wakes up several times during the night. No follow-up appointments have been required. Cognitive therapy and seeing a Neuropsych. has been suggested but we are financially unable to pursue these additional treatments.


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