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waves 04-27-2010 05:50 PM

Dear Bizi i suspect some of that gain is water weight - possible the foods you had in your "time-out" from dieting were more flavored/salty? You will be fine. Good job on getting back to gym. *pat on back.

Dear Mari just thought i'd mention the two kinds of apples you mentioned are my favs too - Granny Smith and Red Delicious... we don't get them here. :( i like snappy apples that go CRUNCH when you bite into them. (but they also have to be juicy, and a little tart too.) I think i did buy Rome apples for a while and they were fine.

Dear Donna my biggest problem with fruit is also the cutting up part. not because i cut myself but it is just too much hassle and i don't do it. i have bought pre-cuts before. Also i was big on the pre-cut pre-washed salad mixes when i lived alone and could control this. same reason - i would eat a lot more salad (as opposed to it rotting in my fridge :rolleyes:).

and i agree that the whole worrying about foods is just too much. i am inconsistent too. like they warn about mercury in canned tuna, but hey, i go through phases where i live off canned tuna.

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 04-27-2010 06:28 PM

I'm pleased with myself.

I had a half a subway ham and cheese with some veggies on it for
lunch. Then I thought I was taking the other half minus cheese home
for Derrick. When we were at the Convenience store he chose to
buy a cheeseburger.

So I ate the other half myself. I am doing good today. Took the
dog that wants to hurry for a walk. Need to figure out how to get
to walking faster.

And I haven't figured all the apples out. And green grapes are the
only ones I like. I have never figured out why.

Donna

bizi 04-27-2010 10:15 PM

thank you for your support.:)
I had a sensable dinner, turkey slice and half a head of cabbage smothered in chicken broth and peppers with some ginger sesemmee sauce...that was yummy!
went tot eh gym lifted weights and walked on the tred mill for 40 minutes and worked up a nice little sweat.
so I feel better.
bizi

Mari 04-27-2010 10:47 PM

Dear Beth,
I like your cabbage recipe.
You were Bizi today!

M.

Dmom3005 04-28-2010 03:28 PM

Hi I had a pita pizza today.

And will figure out what I want for dinner later.

Donna

bizi 04-28-2010 05:47 PM

shrimp stirfry with bamboo shoots, brocolli, carrots, snow peas, bak choy
no rice for lunch... very good but am already hungry...one hour later.
need to drink more water!
bizi

waves 04-29-2010 12:25 AM

yummmmmmmmmmmm
 
that sounds fantabulous Beth... sounds chinese... i am really miss having oriental cuisine! (love Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Thai...:o)

yesterday i ate chicken breast with a little olive oil, eggplant chunks, and simmered pepper slivers last night for dinner. oh and a wasa cracker with chopped parsley as an appetizer. (i didn't eat the rest of the day at all - no sleep - low appetite.)

i had a couple more slices of the chicken about 5 am (woke up at 2) with a couple olives.

i think i am going to make some oatmeal now. with raisins and cinnamon (and sugar).

~ waves ~

bizi 04-29-2010 09:29 AM

oh waves I like eggplant in a tomato base with cheese, have never fixed it though. sounds like you are doing a good job of watching what you are eating.
good for you:hug:
bizi

Mari 04-29-2010 04:47 PM

Apples
 
HI

This afternoon I bought two new types of apples so
hubby and I could have a taste testing:

Jazz-- tart and crunchy. It really is pink instead of red!

and

Pink Lady -- much tarter and very crunchier. The flesh was almost dense. We both liked this one more than the other. He told me to buy them again if I see them. This was a good way to get myself to eat an apple today. :)

M.





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bizi 04-29-2010 06:01 PM

I like braeburns....that is a neat chart!
bizi

waves 05-01-2010 08:08 AM

Yeah COOL chart Mari! :D

I feel guilty about not eating apples. maybe i will try to get some that i like when i get out (which isn't often). i don't think i could keep up with one a day though. if we have two cooked meals that is too filling to eat between meals or tack fruit on the end of the meal for me.

thanks for the note of support Beth. :)

hey, guess what guys?

... i'm down another 1.5 lbs!

:Dancing-Chilli: Yaaaay! :D

~ waves ~

bizi 05-01-2010 11:00 AM

that is great news waves!!!!!
yeah for you!!!!!!:)
keep up the good work.
bizi

bizi 05-01-2010 04:25 PM

I confess....I am doing terrible with my diet....
I have been adding french vanilla creamer to my coffee. each cup becomes 100 calories, I usually have 2 cups...
my beer that I like has 316 calories a beer, i usually have 2...
that is 832 calories on beverages that I drink on a given day.
to lose weight I was following a 1200 calorie a day diet....
(and not drinking those beverages)
the math does not add up.
Dieting is all about sacrificing....
I should look at it differently....
sigh

waves 05-01-2010 05:28 PM

Dear Beth
 
the biggest trouble with strict diets is sticking to them.

sometimes less is more - as in removing less, achieves more. yes there have to be some sacrifices, but the more you deviate from your lifestyle, the harder it is. not only, once you reach your target weight, and stop "dieting", the weight tends to come back.

that beer is a big calorie packer. it's probably mostly from carbs. can you limit to just 1 beer? what about removing carbs elsewhere (as in bread, for instance)? alternatively if you can't have one without the second, how about every other day or, say, only on gym days -after gym?

100 calories per coffee is less of an impact, but what if you only had 1 with the vanilla creamer and 1 with skim milk?

ask yourself, in general, if there are any permanent changes you might be willing to make to your eating/drinking habits.

there are many ways to climb a mountain. ;) you can get there. don't be too hard on yourself. you've done very well.

(((HUGS)))

~ waves ~

Mari 05-01-2010 05:37 PM

Dear Waves,
That is good news. You are making progress. :highfive:



Dear Beth,
Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 650401)
.
Dieting is all about sacrificing....
I should look at it differently....
sigh

Each of us will choose the best way to look at diet and find what works best.
I think of dieting as a journey toward loving myself.
If I am focused on myself and on my needs in the short term and in the long term,
then I make good eating choices.
I hope you are not being too hard on yourself.



M.

Mari 05-01-2010 05:39 PM

Apples again. Which is biggest
 
Hi,

I bought hubby several types of organic apples and pears today.


He was most thrilled with the biggest apples. :D
The size impressed him.

. . . so much for my fun with taste testing. :cool:


M.

Mari 05-01-2010 05:41 PM

Dear Waves,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 650433)
the biggest trouble with strict diets is sticking to them.

sometimes less is more - as in removing less, achieves more. yes there have to be some sacrifices, but the more you deviate from your lifestyle, the harder it is. not only, once you reach your target weight, and stop "dieting", the weight tends to come back.

that beer is a big calorie packer. it's probably mostly from carbs. can you limit to just 1 beer? what about removing carbs elsewhere (as in bread, for instance)? alternatively if you can't have one without the second, how about every other day or, say, only on gym days -after gym?

100 calories per coffee is less of an impact, but what if you only had 1 with the vanilla creamer and 1 with skim milk?

ask yourself, in general, if there are any permanent changes you might be willing to make to your eating/drinking habits.

there are many ways to climb a mountain. ;) you can get there. don't be too hard on yourself. you've done very well.

(((HUGS)))

~ waves ~

These are all good suggestions. :)
You are wise.

M.

bizi 05-01-2010 07:21 PM

thank you both for your support. It means the world to me.
bizi

Dmom3005 05-01-2010 10:30 PM

I think that you just need a little more of your comfort foods for now
bizi. Give yourself a few days and then see if you can cut down some.

It might even be a everyother day for a while on the beer. I'm not a beer
drinker so I don't have that problem.

But I love candy so I have to be careful with buying it. I am doing good though. Till the fact taht I need chocolate hits.

I had a steak, potatoes and applesauce for supper today.
It was good.

I was the chapperone for Derrick and his lady.

Tonight is prom and after prome. He took her to Applebee's.

It was so neat, his boss stopped by today and gave him a $50.00 gift card
for Applebees. Its so nice seeing how much they like him.

Donna

bizi 05-02-2010 01:06 PM

Sub way whole wheat low calorie english muffin with egg whites, ham and pepper jack cheese and spinach, onion and green pepper, I forgot to add tomatoes!:o
215 calories
cup of fat free milk
90 calories
2 cups cantelope
120 calories
vitamins
50
equals 475 calories for today

Dmom3005 05-02-2010 03:11 PM

Okay I have had breakfast and lunch together. Only because I was up till
3:00 am waiting on prom and after prom guy. So I slept till I took the
tux back.

Then I went to dollar tree, and bought some things.

Then I went to Wendy's and bought a jr. Bacon cheeseburger. For some reason right now they are really good.

Donna:grouphug:

bizi 05-03-2010 11:40 PM

made it to the gym tonight, lifted weights and walked hard on the tred mill for 45 minutes.
only one beer
:)
bizi

Dmom3005 05-04-2010 09:02 AM

Good Job Bizi

I'm ready to get back to a gym.

Donna:grouphug:

bizi 05-04-2010 06:07 PM

bocca burgers and lentil soup and a salad for dinner.
jeff is cooking!:)
lost tonight!!!!!!! oh we are getting so psyched up!!!!!
It is ending soon though :(
we bought the entire series and have been rewatching them....what fun!
bizi

bizi 05-04-2010 10:54 PM

http://www.dlife.com/diabetes/diabet...ala/r9181.html

this web site is designed for people following a diabetic diet, low carbs and low calories....great site!!!!
this link is for a turkey marsala....:)

Dmom3005 05-05-2010 04:55 PM

Thanks for the website.

I am just kind of revolving through the world right now.

Can't seem to get on board for anything.

Like today we went to Cii Cii's which is a all you can eat pizza place.

But I was good and didn't over eat pizza. And had a salad also.

But their downfall for me is their brownies. I ate a few more than
I should probably.


I'm worried a little about Derrick he didn't eat much. And isn't eating
much.

Donna:grouphug:

bizi 05-05-2010 10:12 PM

boneless pork chop witha little jerk sauce, steamed yellow squash with a little cayenne pepper, crunchy baby carrots....
gym tonight, weights, tred mill makes me sweat...so makes me take a shower!
good day...see if I can pass on a beer tonight.
bizi

bizi 05-06-2010 08:42 PM

Sub way for lunch: veggie patty, loved it!
Cajun catfish with steamed brocolli and califlower. couple of cherub tomatoes and several baby carrots.
I need to factor in fruit...some how but I take vitamins so feel that I am covered.
last night I was so hungry before bed that I had a pepper jack cheese sandwich...my work out made me hungry! And I avoided the beer :) .
We are rewatching LOST, am saving my Dark chocolate kisses for then.
bizi

waves 05-07-2010 05:51 PM

hi
 
Dear Beth, that's good that you avoided the beer yesterday. :) i hope you manage to do the some days on, some days off with it.

Dear Donna it sounds to me like you are doing pretty well all things considered. it's ok to have the things you like sometimes. overall, you have not been having lots of sweets, which you've said are a big draw for you, so that is good. a few brownies will be ok, in the big picture. good for you for having the salad. :)

i have started talking to pdoc about body image. it is weird. it's not like i have a huge problem with it, but i have somewhat of a problem. for the what i weigh i don't get why i feel so ashamed about it. i am not disturbed by others who are heavier than me. i can still think they look attractive (male or female, esthetically speaking), but when it comes to me... sigh. i don't understand the double standard. :o:rolleyes:

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 05-07-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waves (Post 652466)
Dear Beth, that's good that you avoided the beer yesterday. :) i hope you manage to do the some days on, some days off with it.

Dear Donna it sounds to me like you are doing pretty well all things considered. it's ok to have the things you like sometimes. overall, you have not been having lots of sweets, which you've said are a big draw for you, so that is good. a few brownies will be ok, in the big picture. good for you for having the salad. :)

i have started talking to pdoc about body image. it is weird. it's not like i have a huge problem with it, but i have somewhat of a problem. for the what i weigh i don't get why i feel so ashamed about it. i am not disturbed by others who are heavier than me. i can still think they look attractive (male or female, esthetically speaking), but when it comes to me... sigh. i don't understand the double standard. :o:rolleyes:

~ waves ~

Today, I had a migraine, and slept most of the day.

So I had a small amount of food. I will be buying salad food.

We had macaroni and cheese for dinner. And I had some diet coke.

I also had Ice cream and milk. I am having some other things but
my headache made me forget what.

Donna

bizi 05-07-2010 06:34 PM

we should all be accepting of ourselves just the way we are....
this self love includes all of our body warts and all...
For me I became unhappy when I had to go out and buy all new scrubs.
I have been 50 pounds heavier than I am right now....when I weighed at my pdoc office, I weigh in every time and we looked back and you could see the weight coming on over the past few years... and I weighed then more than I have weighed in a very long time...I got scared.
I was eating too much and drinking alot really fattening beer.
I was out of control.
If I kept gaining weight every year... than before long I would be at that heavy weight again....then I got the cholesterol scare, then the shoulder scare with muscle loss...all of those issues motivated me to start an exercise program and diet. I am lifting weights, I can lift more now then before so I know that I am getting stronger. have been walking on the tred mill 2-3 times a week, eating more healthy foods, smaller portions, I have cheated many days but hey I am human! Not drinking beer as much. That has been the hardest thing to give up. (I still have an occasional beer or two).
It has been only 8 weeks since I started this life style change.
And I already feel better.
bizi
ate dinner, am going to the gym and then come home and have a couple of beers and watch reruns of LOST!!!!!:)

waves 05-08-2010 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizi (Post 652491)
we should all be accepting of ourselves just the way we are....
this self love includes all of our body warts and all...

yah, but if one isn't... how does one get there? therein lies the problem.

Quote:

For me I became unhappy when I had to go out and buy all new scrubs.
know what you mean. when i first gained this weight, via zyprexa (since been up and down like a yoyo for several years), i had to go out and buy some new clothes. i bought very little because i did not want to stay this size. that was 7 years ago, and i am still functioning on a bare-minimum wardrobe. the most i ever lost during that time was 22lbs (half of what i gained) before having to take zyprexa again, or getting depressed (hyperphagia).

and now, i really don't get what is happening, because despite a decrease in food and increase in activity level, weight is stationary. the only small drops i have seen, unfortunately, correlate directly to two brief spells of extreeeeeme agitation. :(

Quote:

I am lifting weights, I can lift more now then before so I know that I am getting stronger. have been walking on the tred mill 2-3 times a week, eating more healthy foods
...
Not drinking beer as much.
...
It has been only 8 weeks since I started this life style change.
And I already feel better.
this is excellent! :yahoo: :) something to be proud of! :Tip-Hat:

~ waves ~

bizi 05-08-2010 10:03 AM

I think self love is a life long process...
Think that it is a learned behavior....I think we can teach ourselves to love ourselves.
pull out one of your sark books if you still have them or order one if you can, I am sure there are used ones from amazon.com that are inexpensive.
bizi
:grouphug:

bizi 05-08-2010 01:42 PM

I just looked at my note cards of my weights over the years....
it is amazing what I have put this body thru.
124 at my lowest when I came back from the service 10 years ago...up to almost 200 pounds a couple of years later...then down 50 in a year then back up 50....it is crazy..:eek:
Do you guys yo yo like that?
bizi

Dmom3005 05-09-2010 09:27 PM

I am still over 200 lbs. But I'm working to get under again.

I am at the point that I need to get back to a gym. But the thing is
my husband got laid off again on Friday. Ugh, I have to decide
if I can afford the one I want now.

Donna:grouphug:

Mari 05-09-2010 10:42 PM

Dear Donna,
 
I'm sorry to hear about your husband's job loss.

M.

bizi 05-09-2010 11:06 PM

I am sorry too donna, that puts all of the financial stress on you.
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Dmom3005 05-10-2010 01:19 PM

Just life again for us.

I'll live.

Donna

waves 05-10-2010 03:58 PM

Dear Donna

i hope your husband is able to find work again soon. the economy is miserable where i am, also. they "said" it was getting better but... not that much. :rolleyes:

Dear Beth
i yoyo, yes, and generally with moods. down i gain, up i lose. but not by 50 lbs - i used to yoyo about 20 lbs. range 115-135, generally speaking, before meds, for many years.

this is before zyprexa which slapped 40 lbs on me in a couple of months - at which point my pdoc took me OFF it, because of the weight gain. thank goodness in a way that i was underweight (105) due to a long mixed mood when i started.

~ waves ~

Dmom3005 05-10-2010 05:18 PM

Thank you to all. We are probably in for a long haul. There is no idea
how long till the union electrician's go back to work.

Donna


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