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bizi 03-08-2012 09:59 AM

I wonder why the oil oil can't be cooked. What about taking fish oil capsules like 3 of them that would help and be a good source of omega 3 fatty acids that we need. then you would not have to take the olive oil.
just a thought
bizi who wishes she could go on my own...never going to happen for me unfortunately.

Brokenfriend 03-08-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 858786)
Hi Mari
the dream really bothered me. I never realized how upset i was by her treatment of me so I guess I still have a lot of rage in me towards my mother. I think a lot of it too is because i am bipolar and everything gets magnified. I wish I had a dream where i was making up with her.
i am not good at analysing dreams and my therapist doesn't do it. I think they are important.
I read somewhere that you can put olive oil into coffee. I am afraid to try it but one of these days I might. I am still having it with romaine lettuce. A friend suggested i put it on roasted vegetables. She mentioned using a pan and putting aluminum foil under it and roasting the vegetables. I perseverated and kept on thinking of a frying pan since i hardly use the oven and asked her how do the vegetables roast. we laughed for a few minutes.
I woke up again really depressed. I am so ambivalent about life. yesterday at the center a woman who was 104 sat at the table. she has to use a wheel chair but she was really sharp. amazing. there was a lot of talk at the table. i wound up not doing the crossword puzzles.
I am dreading doing the taxes although i don't have that much to do. I think i will use last years as a template. i don't owe any taxes so if i make a mistake i am not really afraid.
my neighbor stopped over yesterday to see Pudge. Pudge was very sweet. I am so fortunate about my neighbor. she offered to pay for the grooming which cost about 110 dollars and she even took her to the groomers. she then took me out to eat. I am really appreciative and realize that something must be wrong with me for being so depressed when i had such nice things happen to me. also the forum makes me feel better. i feel as if i am cared about.
thank you all so much
fondly
bobby

Bobby I'm so sorry that you are having bad dreams. These dreams can feel so real. I'm so sorry for your difficulties. BF:hug::hug::hug:

Mari 03-09-2012 05:03 AM

Dear Bizi,
 
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Originally Posted by bizi (Post 859059)
I wonder why the oil oil can't be cooked. What about taking fish oil capsules like 3 of them that would help and be a good source of omega 3 fatty acids that we need. then you would not have to take the olive oil.
just a thought
bizi who wishes she could go on my own...never going to happen for me unfortunately.


Bizi,
Oil can be cooked. It is just that at a high enough heat it breaks down. Then we lose the the benefit of the olive oil.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...lytip&dbid=261

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All vegetable oils are susceptible to heat damage-much more so than the whole foods from which they were pressed or extracted. But in the case of extra virgin olive oil, the susceptibility is especially great.
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. . .they typically cannot withstand heats of much greater than 200-250˚F (93-121˚C) without incurring damage (the temperature of stove-top frying is 375-525˚F, or 191-274˚C).
I have been teaching hubby to cook with Grape Seed oil. I think it is less vulnerable to heat than olive oil is. I am not an expert.

M

Mari 03-09-2012 05:16 AM

Dear Bobby,

I guess I can feel relieved that my mother and I have improved our relationship. We can talk on the phone occasionally as long as we only talk about small talk -- her garden, a class she is taking, a neighbor, .a politician, . .
I stay clear of any subject that might upset her -- which is almost anything personal of hers or mine or anyone in the family. I have not heard her say that she loved me.

That is good that your mother did say she loved you. That is a good feeling -- to know that she spoke to you like that.

Did you really study Latin? That is fabulous. Not finishing your psychology degree is understandable. Getting that degree is a long haul and so many things have to go right in order to finish. Loosing the professors you needed was a huge factor.
Do you feel that you gained anything from your studies?

I think some women might spend much of their lives working on their relationship with their mothers. I read a marvelous book years ago about women who went to therapy even after their mothers had passed away in order to work on transitioning out of the old feelings that they had as children to better feelings about themselves and their mothers.
I am not explaining that and I apologize.
Maybe I will come back later today after I sleep and try again.

I hope that your day goes well.

Mari

mymorgy 03-09-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bizi (Post 859059)
I wonder why the oil oil can't be cooked. What about taking fish oil capsules like 3 of them that would help and be a good source of omega 3 fatty acids that we need. then you would not have to take the olive oil.
just a thought
bizi who wishes she could go on my own...never going to happen for me unfortunately.

i know how healthy fish oil is and i have some but i really don't like taking them. I just ordered coconut oil. i read that it is good for constipation besides all its other marvelous benefits. I think it will be easier to take plain than olive oil.
bobby

mymorgy 03-09-2012 09:53 AM

Dear Mari
that is great that your relationship with your mother has gotten better. every little bit helps. My relationship with mine really deteriorated until she told me that she loved me. I guess she did in her own limited way. what other people thought was just so important to her. I just couldn't please her.
I got a lot personally from Latin. I really loved the classes although i found it very difficult. One class, a graduate one, was so anxiety provoking...we had to read a play a week by Plautus I used to go back to my apartment and take a nap before the class to lower my anxiety. My hero of a teacher was so very difficult that most people fled from his classes but i liked him so much i took as many as i could. He died at 73 I read.
It would have been so much easier if i majored in english literature. I was always a fast reader and had good analytical skills. My anxiety seemed to be helped by reading....I don't know why.
I gained a lot from my psychology studies. I learned to do testing and wound up testing over 600 kids. I also unlearned a lot and realized not to make as many assumptions as there were many ways to look at a problem.
Yesterday was my worse day in months. My friend hadn't called last week and i was afraid he wasn't going to call this week. In the end, he called and said he had been depressed and that was why he didn't call. I felt much better after he called. I almost picked a fight with a close friend in email. I was really irritable and didn't have the patience to be diplomatic. I just felt so alone and frightened and ambivalent about life. oh well. I know i should have a colonoscopy and haven't been able to make myself get one. when ralph returns in a couple of months i will get the name of his doctor again and hopefully have the courage to make an appointment. i called her office once but she never returned the call.
bobby

ginnie 03-09-2012 09:59 AM

Hi Bobby
 
Hi Bobby, I sure do understand about deams. They can be so real, and if they are bad, you are glad when you wake up. Try not to let it unsettle you. To counter act this, I try to go to bed with something good on my mind. I do read alot, and often to the point I don't deam anything I can remember. I think I just wear my brain out to where it has to rest. If you can try to read a good article, or something positive going to bed, it may just help. The subconscience is always working, so let it work on something good. I hope you have a good day, and get with a few people you like to be around. That gal that is 104 years old, I bet she has some cool things to say! I do care about you bobby, you are not alone. I come to NT for the same reasons you do, for the support and companions we find here. ginnie:hug:

bizi 03-09-2012 10:24 AM

last year a bought a jar of coconut oil and cooked with it, remember I did the paleo diet for a while. I liked the taste of it alot but hubby wasn't crazy for it so when the jar was gone I didnot replace it. We switched back to olive oil.
I am sorry that you had a bad day. We have to watch what we say in emails, they can be interpretted entirely different then what we meant to say.
bizi

waves 03-10-2012 10:09 AM

dreams
 
Sending you good thoughts, Bobby.

I hope the disturbing dreams abate.

Either that, or that they become revealing in a useful way.

I was having a lot of weird ones too... lately i think i am not remembering them because i have been waking up in pain which takes over consciousness so quickly... anything else is wiped out. i was having a lot... and weird ones that i couldn't figure out. in one i was driving... i used to have a lot of driving dreams, but i was always in one of my cars... duh. in this one, i was sitting on the road, crosslegged, holding the wheel except there was none. and i was moving along... or scraping along... or whatever. that was SOOOO weird. my dad immediately said, this dream is telling you that you don't have the necessary physique do do what you would like or intend to do at the moment. well i guess that about clinched it, eh?

last night i had the sobbing kind - (during which i actually sob, not just in the dream, only minus tears). i have had these before too - they are emotionally horrid, and mess up my breathing for a good while after i awake. last night i had at least 3 in succession. i remember the last one vividly. my mother awoke me from that one because she heard me. not only, she said i had done the same thing 15 only minutes before and was about to wake me when it stopped... it came and went in waves... it was brought on by intense sorrow (in the dreams). actually, here i think it was the same basic dream... the faces changed a little, and i remember different versions.

May i say, about the dream where you killed your mother, that such things are most often symbolic... killing off could be eradicating the part of her that is in you, or estranging yourself from that part... a wish for permanent separation from her painful influence on you (which i believe you internalized... eg. all the hard criticism). I would not have fear that it represented an impulse to do physical harm.

i once dreamt the opposite as a child - that my mother tried to kill me. strangle me to be precise. again, i think it was symbolic - in my case probably indicating on my part, a sense of suffocation (strangling=unable to breathe), of being stifled in personal growth or expression.

i hope this is reassuring somewhat. if it is disturbing let me know and i'll remove it.

hang in there. and don't worry about the camera and pix, we'll use our imagination, re: Pudge's lion cut. :) we know what she looks like overall because you did post a pic of her when you got her. :)

love you.

~ waves ~

mymorgy 03-11-2012 12:49 PM

i am so sorry about your dreams. I was hoping that your teaching would lessen some of the pain you have been experiencing...or should i say suffering....it is so hard to be bipolar. this morning i woke up so terrified of everything that i didn't want to get out of bed. the fear was so overwhelming. it has subsided somewhat. i think your interpretation of my dream is right on. i am confused about yours. it makes me sad to think you were sobbing in your dreams...as if something was lost or something...without a wheel driving i wonder if that just means you feel you are out of control. i wonder if basically we are all out of control even though most of the time we think we are. I started thinking this morning to calm me a little that
God is taking care of me....and i should put my trust in God....and just let go.
I can't seem to put my trust in me...
Love
bobby who hopes you can feel better


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