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mymorgy 06-01-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 884634)
Bobby,
Whether it is circumstances or growing healthier you can still claim it as your own! That's good the therapist sees progress. I noticed that therapists are more effective when they see progress.

Are you saying that you want to work more on the past than she does? My therapist is kind of like that. She does not want to hear too many child hood/ teenage/ young adult stories. She wants me to work on ways to distance myself from garbage in my life and find ways to cope. Sometimes I find that frustrating --- I do not know why.

M

since i remember most of my dreams i thought it would be productive to discuss them but she isn't trained for that. i still think my past haunts me.
bobby

mymorgy 06-01-2012 08:23 AM

dear ginnie
i am so sorry what you are going through....it seems like it is hitting you from all directions.
bobby

Mari 06-01-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 885067)
since i remember most of my dreams i thought it would be productive to discuss them but she isn't trained for that. i still think my past haunts me.
bobby

Yes, Bobby,

I think many therapists are not getting training for that. I had a friend who liked going to Gestalt Therapy sessions back in the 1980s. As researchers learn more about the brain they might turn more to dream work.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2009/07...lity/7441.html

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Dream Therapy As a Treatment Modality

Meanwhile, the previously discredited idea of treating some conditions with dream therapy has attracted interest from clinicians. An example is people suffering from nightmares can sometimes be treated by training them to dream lucidly so they can consciously wake up.

“On the one hand, basic dream researchers could now apply their knowledge to psychiatric patients with the aim of building a useful tool for psychiatry, reviving interest in patients’ dreams,” continues Scarone.

“On the other hand, neuroscience investigators could explore how to extend their work to psychiatric conditions, using approaches from sleep research to interpret data from acute psychotic and dissociated states of the brain-mind.”


M

bizi 06-02-2012 12:05 AM

dear bobby, I think that if you feel that your past still haunts you then it is true, it haunts you.
I don't know how to let go of traumatic events....how do you let them go so that you can live a normal life free from your past. I think you must learn how to go on....how you do this is a mystery to me.
(((((HUGS)))))
bizi
I think it has to do with forgiveness....

mymorgy 06-02-2012 06:25 AM

I think you are partially right. I think a lot of my childhood was traumatic.
bobby

waves 06-02-2012 07:02 PM

on dreams and on rehashing the past "garbage
 
Bobby & Mari,

i think that dreams, like, pain, or illness, or an itch, are just ways for our body-mind continuum to send the conscious mind a message.

so Bobby, i agree since you have dreams and a feeling the past haunts you, you might need - at very least - to gain a basic grasp on things, learn what patterns you are following so you can choose different ones. i think it is the same as learning from mistakes. we cannot learn if we do not know or see what is wrong in what we are believing or doing. even if an authority tells us "this belief you have is unhealthy" we will not really believe it inside... so we will not change unless we really deeply understand that it is. to do that, i personally believe it helps us to understand how we acquired the belief so that we can really strongly challenge it for ourselves, within ourselves, and build new ones, and with them new, healthier behaviors.

~ waves ~

ginnie 06-03-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Hi Mari
 
Lived here since 95. So much is at stake. I just feel if I stay here, I am taking a chance at mother nature, doing her thing and wiping me out. this is playing russian routette with my life, and I don't want to play the game. citizens insurance was just on the news last night. dropping another 750,000 folks off their roles. They know darn well not even half, they would be able to cover in the event a storm came this way. I would have no way to re-build, or pick up the pieces and start anew. My son is also out here, and he is a fool to think that this cannot happen. He is banking that this house, his, will not be hit by a storm and provide a retirement for him. Do we gamble with this? I have to get in a position, that I am not costing him. He has to pay my taxes, and I can't afford the vitamines I need to keep healthy, or at least get on the right track. How to move forward with this sitution I am in is so very difficult. I am also dealing with my sons extreme depression, which clouds his judgement. He thinks of me as a senior citizen that is loosing my mind. I say no, I have never thought clearer in my life, than what I am doing now. I am trying to protect myself, and my son, and my housemate from a worse fate than being poor. How I am ever going to get through all this is crazy.....Add the trust, realitors, health, my daughter, into the mix, and I can tell you, I am glad I have this site to run back too. It seems alot to deal with. I am OK Mari, for now at least. Looking into if I can sell the house at all with the trust as it currently stands. ginnie

ginnie 06-03-2012 09:13 AM

Hi bobby
 
I left a catch up note below for all to Mari. I know you care. I am so glad I have you here with me. I do not feel alone in these struggles. I hope you are ok too, and trying to move on and get your thoughts in a better place . I care about you too. ginnie

Mari 06-03-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 885351)
I think you are partially right. I think a lot of my childhood was traumatic.
bobby

Dear Bobby,

My feeling is that trauma should be best be handled by a tdoc or similar professional ---- but what do I know? ----- this is just my feeling. A person could delve into the trauma by herself, but it might be slow going and might not turn out as well as it would otherwise.

Probably you could do the things that you are already doing: forms of prayer, thoughts and feelings of gratitude and love, forgiveness and love of yourself. I wonder if forgiving oneself and learning to love oneself can help recovery from a traumatic childhood.

Maybe find a way to talk about the past in a way that is comfortable to the tdoc. Have you told her that your childhood affects you minute by minute all day and in most interactions / activities? I think I remember that when you bring up the past, she tries to redirect you. Ask her to spend more time on those techniques and give you more detail and more practice.

. . . . some thoughts.

M

Mari 06-03-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ginnie (Post 885592)
How to move forward with this sitution I am in is so very difficult. I am also dealing with my sons extreme depression, which clouds his judgement. He thinks of me as a senior citizen that is loosing my mind. I say no, I have never thought clearer in my life, than what I am doing now. I am trying to protect myself, and my son, and my housemate from a worse fate than being poor. How I am ever going to get through all this is crazy.....Add the trust, realitors, health, my daughter, into the mix, and I can tell you, I am glad I have this site to run back too. It seems alot to deal with. I am OK Mari, for now at least. Looking into if I can sell the house at all with the trust as it currently stands. ginnie


Dear Ginnie,

The lawyers will be able to break the trust. You can move to a new place that is hurricane safe -- these are places inland of course and places that were built in recent years according to Florida's current building code. Also you want a place that has shutters that are easy to put up or hurricane impact windows (insurance companies check on this before they agree to insure the owner of the building).


It is devastating to move out of a long time home when you are forced to due to circumstances beyond your control.
You are doing the right thing by moving and finding a place that is safe and has affordable insurance.
I want you to know that I have faith that you can handle this. Go through one step at a time. We are pulling for you.


M


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