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Mari 06-13-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1075540)
Bizi,

Thank you. :)
Will try to do another bit or few bits later on today. :)

We'll see.

I am dealing with other stuff right now that is kind of bothering me. I will need to put it down for a while, and try and move things forward again.

God I need a cup of coffee... or a jug is more like it.

:tongue: :Yawn: ....... :Zzzz:

waves


Waves, :)

Have a good rest of your day.

(I am going to try to go back to bed.)
Enjoy the coffee.

M

waves 06-13-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1075553)
Waves, :)

Have a good rest of your day.

(I am going to try to go back to bed.)
Enjoy the coffee.

M

Thanks, Mari.

I hope you slept okkk.

My sleep is all weird suddenly beause I have a cat scan today at noonish. So I had to force some night-sleep in bettween by taking a neurontin. I didn't get a lot in spite of that, but I got a little... enough probably to get through the scan, come home and nap again. :D

I thought of doing the neuronttin mainly for another reason. I want to see if it will help my formmerly-thought-of-as-sinus problem, which is looking more and more like a facial paresthesia. I did feel better, but since the problem gets better and worse on its own, jury's out on whether the neurontin contributed. The paresthesia is being investigated, but meanwhile, if I can get some symptomatic relief from time to time, I'll take it.

The coffee... I was trying not to have it yesterday, but I bailed and had two cups. I had it cold, without milk or sugar, which is perhaps better. I will probably will have to stop drinking it though, at least for a while. Sigh. I am not ready to part with my coffee. I want both the taste and the caffeine. I am a hands down coffeeholic. I can't go a day without it.

waves

Mari 06-14-2014 12:10 AM

Waves,

The come and go-ness of the symptoms create difficulties tracking down this kind of thing.

The cat scan can shed some answers.

Depending on the dx, you think you might have to give up coffee?? I hope you can keep it because if coffee is a pleasure you should have it.

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1075680)
but I got a little... enough probably to get through the scan, come home and nap again. :D

I hope that the getting up and the travel for the test goes well and that you end up with some sleep.


M

waves 06-14-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1075693)
Depending on the dx, you think you might have to give up coffee?? I hope you can keep it because if coffee is a pleasure you should have it.

Not exacctly. TWO dx's. The cause of my "sinus-area" symptoms is still TBD. The dx related to coffee-drinking is definitive: I should immediately suspend all coffee.

...... IDEALLY.

In practice, NO WAY, NO HOW.


I am drinking it cold, black, unsweetened. This should make it less evil than drinking it hot and all doctored up with milk and sugar.

Oh god the neurontin is getting to me I need to lie down.

waves

Mari 06-14-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1075737)
Not exacctly. TWO dx's. The cause of my "sinus-area" symptoms is still TBD. The dx related to coffee-drinking is definitive: I should immediately suspend all coffee.

...... IDEALLY.

In practice, NO WAY, NO HOW.


I am drinking it cold, black, unsweetened. This should make it less evil than drinking it hot and all doctored up with milk and sugar.

Oh god the neurontin is getting to me I need to lie down.

waves

Waves,


Sorry that I said it wrong. I did understand that the DX was TBD.

That is a good way to drink the coffee -- without the pleasure.
(not fun)

M

waves 06-14-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1075741)
Waves,


Sorry that I said it wrong. I did understand that the DX was TBD.

That is a good way to drink the coffee -- without the pleasure.
(not fun)

M

Well yes, but it's ok, really. I often drink it ths way during the summer. When I drink a lot, I often don't sweeten. It's not as interesting but still good. And, very importantly, I have my caffeine supply!

At some point, I'll have to try removing the coffee, but not right now, with the neurotin in the picture.

This "incidental" dx is reflux. I don't usually lie down after eating... I don't have problems at night, I don't have a heavy fat-rich diet, and I don't overeat -- only thing to do is eliminate all the specific "irritating foods" like tomatoes ::(, citrus :(, spices :Bawling:, coffee/tea (WAHHHH! :hissyfit:) For now, I'll just reduce rather than eliminate some of those things, but the coffee will be the last to go. I know sugar and milk make it more irritating, so hopefully what I'md doing is an improvement.

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The CAT is not related to the reflux dx. It is regarding the pricking/fluid. It is meant to rule out sinus pathology. It is expected to be negative. The ENT says that the lacrimal involvement suggests inflammation of facial nerves.

We don't think this has anything to do with the reflux. He has said the problem is too far up, but I do wonder (and will ask) if it could upset gums and sinus and cascade inflammation back to upset the nerves at a deeper level. Honestly seems a bit farfetched, but if there's any doubt at all, I'd be willing to live on white rice and water for a week or so to find out! :cool::o

I will talk to the dentist about all of this as well. (Maybe he will fix a cavity, and all this nasty prickling will magically subside?)

waves

Mari 06-14-2014 03:29 PM

Waves,

That nasty prickling is disturbing in itself.
What bothered me the most when I have had it is not knowing if something is a) really wrong, b) regular wrong, or c) not important and only weird.

I am sorry about the coffee. I do not drink it (don't like it and when I did drank it twice I got weird/something), but I know that it is important to most people.

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inflammation of facial nerves
That's the thing you hope it is not.

I am reminded of a patient sitting in the waiting room of the old pdoc/nuero who had gone to several dentists AND had work done for something that apparently was neurological.

M

waves 06-14-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1075791)
I am reminded of a patient sitting in the waiting room of the old pdoc/nuero who had gone to several dentists AND had work done for something that apparently was neurological.

:yikes: Oh geez!

I am glad you told me this. I guess it's not just me.

You know, it had crossed my mind but I told myself I was being paranoid from prior bad experiences. See, I've had multiple dentists try to convince me that my bite on the right is responsible for my migraines. (Orthodontics == big bucks!) I get migraines on eeither side, not just the right. They follow a hormonal pattern. But it's pretty scary how bad they want to pin stuff on their own specialty (and sell you work). I had one guy shut me up -- "I am the dentist and you have to listen to me!" -- and give me a whole dissertation on proprioceptive function, before even letting me explain.

That guy was a prime jerk/idiot. He hammered my teeth they way they test your reflexes. And asked if it hurt. No, but it was infuriating. I already suspected a cracked tooth... hammering was NOT going to help that! :mad: New technique my a...

I might just ask the ENT about dental repercussions being an indirect cause and not say anything to the dentist, for now. At least not till I get a feel for how he is.

waves

waves 06-14-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari (Post 1075791)
That nasty prickling is disturbing in itself.
What bothered me the most when I have had it is not knowing if something is a) really wrong, b) regular wrong, or c) not important and only weird.

Exactly!

Even if it is not important, it is very uncomfortable, and I do have a concern about it worsening because it has progressed since the first signs early last fall. And then there's a diverse host of more-or-less uncommon scary stuff that could be coing on. :o
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I am sorry about the coffee. I do not drink it (don't like it and when I did drank it twice I got weird/something), but I know that it is important to most people.
Yes, generally, speaking I cannot go a day without coffee. And I LOVE coffee, on top of it. When I've had to kill the caffeine for whatever reason, I don't usually have decaf because it tastes funny to me.... .oonly occasionally when I'm desperate.

Well, for now I am having it, albeit without frills. :o And ice-cream too. It's summer. :o

waves

Mari 06-14-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by waves (Post 1075800)
:yikes: Oh geez!

I am glad you told me this. I guess it's not just me.

Yeah, and by the time she got to the neuro's office, she was pretty worked up. She had lots to say to all of us in the waiting room.

One thorough dentist explained to me before he pulled one of my wisdom teeth that there was possibility of nerve damage and either the top or the bottom (one of them) had a greater possibility and took a longer time to recover. I heard that as worse than he said it.
So I am aware of nerve stuff in the head.

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See, I've had multiple dentists try to convince me that my bite on the right is responsible for my migraines. (Orthodontics == big bucks!)
They want money, but, again, they are lazy and unprofessional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor

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I had one guy shut me up -- "I am the dentist and you have to listen to me!" -- and give me a whole dissertation on proprioceptive function, before even letting me explain.
Such a rude guy.
He should never work again.


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He hammered my teeth they way they test your reflexes. And asked if it hurt.
OHHH. I had that once. I had wisdom teeth pulled out invidivually over several years and went to multiple dentists. One was horrible.
. . . banged on my teeth to ask if they hurt.
I said yes and told him to stop. Let's just say that he never got to finish his "exam."
A little while later someone told me that that is an appropriate way to check teeth. I say only one person did that so I am thinking it is not appropriate.

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I might just ask the ENT about dental repercussions being an indirect cause and not say anything to the dentist, for now. At least not till I get a feel for how he is.
Right. That is a good plan.

The ENT is reasonable -- as long as you do not ask him to write stuff down.

M


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