Hi, Waves,

Thanks for talking about your feet.
I can see them.
My acupuncturist said that feet problems can be fixed by our emotions.
Apparently the feet stuff is a fear of moving forward.
I have felt stuck (or worse, felt that I am working to keep myself from moving forward. I have felt this for two decades at least but it is not about work I am sure. Not sure what it is because I am not willing to investigate it.

Oh. That is so awful.

I wonder why you point out her Scottishness. Her accent was rough? What is about the Scotts? :) One stereotype here (not true I believe) is that they are cheap.

Eww. Two ways pain on the same foot.

Also, when I do stretches for the fascitis, I have to hold back or the sesamoid area screams. I do the same stretches on the other foot with no fascitis but worse sesamoiditis: oddly, its sesamoid does not complain. Yes. Each foot has has stuff going on Do you have shoes that work for you?
M

Waves,
Yes it is similar to feel something and do something different and then wonder how right it is.

That works out (and something you have thought about.
Yes to investing in something that you like.http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons...object-099.gif

O.k. You have the clear goal of learning by doing and you have to the right tool/ tutorial.
These two things are most of the enchilada right there.
You are done. You've got it.http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons...object-062.gif


This is firmer/clearer than it was the other day. I think I just didn't get it then or it was not a good day for me to pay attention.

I like that you are better than you thought.
The good thing about being 'a dreadful student' as you say is that this
can be changed. Being a good student is something one learns.
It is not innate. http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons...nsport-001.gif
ONe develops skills to get to the next place.

YOu probably remember the old trick about forcing yourself to do 15 mins a day. At the end of fifteen minutes you can stop. Or you can choose to continue for another 15 mins.

I understand that.
I feel depressed and more than off/ maybe almost close to "upset" about non-specific as well as specific things.
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This clause is essential to the whole enchilada that I mentioned up post.

M

Interesting. :) I have that. I have chronic, severe problems with "resistance". In fact the whole thread about being unable to do life is kind of about that. I'm not sure how to fix it. I am trying to fight it or maybe find soft spots in the emotional barrier where I can push through it. Not sure if that will work but it is the only thing I've found that gets even partial results.

I hear you. Psychoanalytic theory and its therapeutic derivaatives claim that we must investigate the cause, because based on the cause, we find the fix. However, psychoanalysis takes years and does not guarantee results within one's lifetime, so screw that. Cognitive behavioral theory claims that we can find a fix even without "investigating". The focus is on identifying maladaptive patterns, developing skills and cultivating healthier habits. I'm not very good at it, because I am resistant to change.

I nearly edited it out, LOL, but left it. I've had several picturesque "experiences" with angry Scots, and she added to them. My (wonderful!) highschool chem teacher was Scottish and had a fiery temper on him. I still get instant replays of my equally fiery Scottish choirmaster in college, bellowing, "Aaaahhnd DOOOOON't pewt MELK en yewr coooffeh! Ettl COOOOOOT yewr VOICE!"

I do find the accent kind of "angular" which makes it feel particularly jarring when screamed. I'm sure it isn't angular to a Scot, lol, but that's how foreign accents work: only those foreign to them notice them. The other thing is that Scots are often very fair and when a fair person gets that agitated, they turn red or purple. (Chem teacher and choirmaster both were/did; the teaching coordinator was also very fair.)

So, although I did not have her in front of me, I imagined this woman turning a healthy shate of beet while screaming at me down the phone in a then-disturbingly angular-sounding English.

She felt very powerful to me right then, and I certainly felt very small.

Yes and no. I need to replace my sneakers.... which are not really sneakers, they are high performance trekking shoes with phenomenal arch support. Alas, they are coming undone. I have a very hard time fitting shoes because of the arch.. haven't found a replacement so far. I tried a bunch of Salomon trekking shoes but they seem to have changed their workmanship since I got my current ones.

In theory, I understand and agree. In practice, I fear that a half century of being a dreadful student is not going to come undone over the course of a month. It could take years, and only if I worked at it aggressively.

On the subject of developing skills, I just got the DBT workbook. Now, I do unfortunately I have the "dreadful student" problem with that too, but I suspect that if I manage to get through parts of it, however slowly, it could help with some of the deeper problems that cause my dreadful student-ness.

I will just have to do what I can do this summer. I think for now, being a dreadful student is just a fact. Another fact is that I am trying to study. Better than nothing. (If I must put a positive spin on things... that would have to be it.)

Yes, and no. Often I can't even get myself to go near whatever it is, let alone stay on it for 1 or 5 or 15 minutes. If I do get it open, staying on it is a problem. I'd like to say it is a simple distraction problem, but I don't believe it is. I believe it has much more to do with my inner tension, resistance, and latent fears. That is where I hope the DBT book will help.

I really appreciate your insights. Even if I sound like a Mary who is quite contrary, bouncing these ideas back and forth helps me stay with the program. I might have abandoned ship completely otherwise, by now.

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good luck with your studies today waves.
(((((HUGS))))
bizi

Things that contribute (or have contributed) heavily to my being a "dreadful student":

-- all or nothing thinking.
-- excessive reaction to teacher disposition
-- stubbornness about own requirements, way of doing things
-- laziness
-- heavy reliance on feelings as a driving force
-- uptightness/fear about resource utilization/erosion
-- curiosity (promotes distraction)

Things that contribute to making me a good student:

-- ability to assimilate well ("fit" new information into existing knowledge)
-- good memory (this was more true in the past)
-- willingness to tap available resources for help
-- ability to follow instructions... I know, sounds pathetic
-- ability to break down a complex task
-- ability to determine reliability of information (mostly specific to web)
-- curiosity (promotes problem solving)

Wow. I know I am a good student in some ways, but making the second list was hard. :( All but the first two points sound fluffy, contrived. :Noooo:

:confused:

Mari, would you list some characteristics of a good student for me? (Maybe I can find pieces of me in your list ... :o)

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Thank you Bizi ... I will take a rain check, ok? :hug::rain:

I am taking the day off today. No studies.

I am having too much of a hard time, and need not to have any pressure today.

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good student
 

Waves,
I have to come back to this later tonight after the sun goings down,.
I have to take care of some errands.


This is what I have at the moment. You or I can refine them later.

-- the willingness and ability to learn ( attitude)

-- the skills (earlier preparation ) to do the task.

-- perceptiveness (understands what is happening / going on)

-- asks / develops questions

--motivated ( want to learn)

-- solves problems (you have that in spades)

--recognizes that learning is not always "fun"

--understands that learning is frightening but beneficial (??)

-- can apply information or thinking learned in one place and use in another

-- can analyze / compare/differentiate/ discriminate/ question/ test

-- can evaluate / judge/ defend / support

-- can create a new product or point of view / construct / develop / write

I did look here and there on the web. These are the ones that were true and most applicable today for our purposes of discussion.

Perhaps the last 4 are the most important for general students. And as far as I know they apply to you as well.
There are other variations of the last four for sure.
I am not sure about the one I underlined/ put in blue. You can comment or not on that.

(I did not try to rank them for you).

Pick your own best four.

Mari

what are you studying? and good for you!

Thanks Mark! :)

C#/.Net, Service Oriented Architecture, i.e. new(er) technologies in software development... I'm a software developer, but have been mostly unemployed for the past decade. This industry changes way fast... need to update to be worth anything. The last job I had in 2010 was kind of a marginal thing. if I am going back I want to go back to the real deal.

Right now studying is on pause. I had a security breach that might have been caused by a virus infection. I've seen other weird behaviors, so I am trying to work out if my computer is ok, or if I need to overhaul it.

This has me kind of in a tizzy, or in multiple tizzies... I poke at things for a bit, then have to take deep breaths and go do something profoundly mindless and mellowing for a while.

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