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Old 11-03-2008, 10:55 PM #31
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OHHHH
I hope you sleep thru the night my dear.
Have you started an exercise program...sorry can't remember if you have or not. I am undisciplined to start such a program...it would help me in many ways. I have always heard that this would help us to sleep better than anything else.
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150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
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I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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Well, I haven't joined a gym or anything, but I do walk in the mornings. And for the past couple of days Ive just been fatigued. I don't know if Im getting sick again, or if my sinuses are still the problem. blah
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sleeping still?
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Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer.....
Happiness is a decision....

150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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I too take Trazadone along with Klonapin at night, but I still wake up once during the night with my chocolate graving, I have some chocolate with a few sips of a bottle of Dasini water, and then back to sleep.

I used to wake up much more during the night.

No clue what the chocolate deal is.....

What is BIOFREEZE??????? That was mentioned?

I too love to sleep with a fan, it sooths me right to sleep.

If I take a nap during the day, then I can stay up later most of the time, I am an early to bed, but I get up very early too.

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Default Maximum dose, just as I thought

Well, the three trazedones ( 150mg ) finally did wear off. So I hesitantly took four last night, which is the maximum. I talked to my dr this morning and told her last time this happened, taking four will probably stop working right around the time I go to see her again. I told her I was scared and aprehensive because last time, during the summer when my kids were with me, she put me on things Ive never heard of before and they created the seizures, which to this day my daughter is still traumatized about and keeps telling me she does not want me to die. I think it was tougher on her than on me. So you can see why Im scared to try something new. I know I should be open to it and realize this new medicine will do the trick, but I went through hell this past summer and I don't want to go there again. But at least the four trazedones, in conjunction with the 10mg of klonopin, and remeron are working for the time being. I just absolutely hate this. No matter how I try to stay and think positive, because I have great faith in my dr, I keep thinking "what if.....Im just not hopeful at this point.
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I am still amazed that you have such a high tolerance to meds.
amazed.
I wish there wre an easier answer for you.
hang in there.
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still painting???????
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Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer.....
Happiness is a decision....

150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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I am still amazed that you have such a high tolerance to meds.
amazed.
I wish there wre an easier answer for you.
hang in there.
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still painting???????
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Painting is done...my husband finished off the bottom part of the bathroom because I was too fatigued. But for the last two nights Ive sleep well
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Glad the painting is done, that must feel good and look great.

Maybe the fatigue is from the sinuses, could have an infection.

Yet, I take Trazadone and Klonapin at night also, it does give you the dragging feeling when you wake up in the morning and can keep you tired until your body adjusts to it.

I still wake up once during the night too.

Hope you get some sleep, get those sinuses checked out, so it doesn't go into an infection.

Rest when you feel fatigued, even if just a little nap.

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Levomepromazine is used for the treatment of psychosis, particular those of schizophrenia, and manic phases of bipolar disorder, as well as for the treatment of agitated depressions in general. It is one of the most useful drugs to treat patients with severe suicidal impulses (3 times 25mg oral or i.m. initially, gradually increasing to 150mg to 300mg daily). The combination treatment of severe and/or chronic pain is also an on-label indication. Here low initial doses of 30mg to 75mg daily are indicated, slowly increased to 100 to 300mg daily. Levomepromazine has off-label uses as an antiemetic for cancer patients and for the treatment of cases of treatment-resistant insomnia. Antiemetic doses may be as low as 3 times 5mg. For the treatment of insomnia 25 to 50mg 2 to 3 hours before bedtime are usually used.
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Hattie the black and white one wrestling with hazel, calico. lost hattie to cancer.....
Happiness is a decision....

150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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I agree with Christina on the Klonopin. if she has got "used to it" it can actually cause the opposite sort of effect... not just klonopin... benzo's in general.

I'm afraid I don't use sleep meds any more. One thing that can help - but only for a night or two is gabapentin... 600mg should put her down. but she will get used to the effect after one or two nights.

another suggestion, if she is sleeping in the day and not at night... is to supplement with melatonin, 6mg usually are needed the first night or two and should not be used longer than a week. the body should then reset itself. caution her NOT to buy melatonin that contains other agents such as tryptophan.

finally, magnesium. a large cup of warm semi-hot (do not boil!) milk at night. in general she might try taking vitamin and mineral supplements... ensuring she has
-- the full complex of B vitamins... B1, B2 and B6 are particularly essential to the nervous system. the complex should be "balanced/proportional" - avoid those "B100" packages - those give 100mg of each ... look for 100%RDA of each. B vitamin requirements can be higher for someone under stress, who drinks alcohol, smokes, or takes meds... due to faster elimination/greater need.
-- Magnesium... is useful as a calming agent in general, helps with "startle syndrome" (someone walks up behind you and you scream), tics, and sleep. it is the reason warm milk helps sleep.
-- ZINC. this is another one essential to the nervous system, like the B's gets burned by a lot of meds, alcohol, cigarette smoke, and we need more when under stress.
-- i would choose one that does not have iron. one should not supplement with iron unless anaemic. excessive iron can cause similar sx to deficiency of the same. also, taking iron with other minerals can impede the absorption of those.
-- vitamins C, D necessary for proper absorption of many.

if she gets a good, brand name multi-vit that should cover her bases.

i personally take things a la carte in semi-combinations... for stress and anxiety... mostly b's, zinc, C,D,E, extra magnesium. i drink enough milk/eat cheese that i get balanced Ca:Mg, so i only take extra Mg.

anyway, the vitamins can't hurt taken in adequate doses.

I also do the hot milk thing sometimes.

hope your friend finds some relief soon. (is she sleeping in daytime, or not getting any sleep? #hours per day?) again i am suspicious of that amount of klonopin... she needs a doc to help her with that... that is way too much.

we had a guy in the clinic who got hooked on xanax, and boy, he was as-tho-manic. couldn't sleep at all. he had taken more and more, and finally it stopped working. he was at the clinic for detox. your friend may in fact need inpatient detox, i don't know. i know you know the deal with benzo's and having to come off carefully, so i won't even start on that

good luck to your friend. hope something was useful.

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Happiness is a decision....

150mg of lamictal 2x a day
haldol 5mg 2x a day
1mg of cogentin 2x a day
klonipin , 1mg at night


I will not give up in this weight loss journey, nor this need to be AF. 3-19-13=156, 6-7-13=139, 8-19-13=149, 11-12-13=140, 6-28-14=157, 7-24-14=149, 9-24-14=144, 1-12-15=164, 2-28-15=149, 4-21-15=143, 6-26-15=138.5, 7-22-15=146, 8-24-15=151, 9-15-15=145, 11-1-15=137, 11-29-15=143, 1-4-16=152, 1-26-16=144, 2-24-16=150, 8-15-16=163, 1-4-17=169, 9-20-17=174, 11-17-17=185.6, 3-22-18=167.9, 8-31-18= 176.3, 3-6-19=190.8 5-30-20=176, 1-4-21=202, 10-4-21= 200.8,12-10-21=186, 3-26-22=180.3, 7-30-22=188, 10-15-22=180.9,
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