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Old 12-20-2010, 09:34 AM #11
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Hi Catch!
Lipoatrophy is the reason I chose to discontinue Copaxone. It's a known side effect of that injectible med. I find it disappointing (and was similarly instructed btw) that a Shared Solutions nurse didn't acknowledge that fact instead of implying you were somehow injecting incorrectly.

I suspect your neurologist has heard of lipoatrophy associated with Copaxone before but I'd definitely bring it up anyway - I don't think everyone experiences it and it's always a good idea to keep the doc in the loop.

In my particular situation, I told my neuro it was the ONLY reason I was considering going off the drug. He heard my complaint, we agreed I'd stay on Copaxone for another 3 months to see if the situation worsened or stabilized ....and I promised to RELIGIOUSLY rotate the sites (which I was already doing but hey, I had to bring something to the table ).

Needless to say I still got divits, they bothered me and I quit injecting Copaxone. The neuro was supportive because we'd partnered in the decision so I guess that's my only advice: keep the doc informed and let him know what's working for you and what's not. It's your body.

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One thing to reduce the dents is to not only rotate the sites, but also rotate around the sites. Try to use four points around each site, a little up, down, right, left. This will reduce the possibility of any damage. Keeping a log of each injections is a very good idea, computer is good for this.
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I can't figure out why it happens because it doesn't happen all the time but whatever.

I skip my arms because they seemed to dent more often than other spots but my thoughts are I'm 45 freaking years old and although still in decent shape no one needs to see my bare thighs so...

I continue on with the medicine that I feel is helping me fight this miserable disease. Hopefully some day we will have better options.
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i havn't experienced this yet and i've been injecting almost 8 yrs.
but i also have a lot of fat.

the problem i was having (i was using the autoject) was that i thought i found a viable site and would inject but the med wouldn't push in. i'd take out the autoject and it pushed the C onto the floor. argh.

i still have that problem from time to time. however, i started injecting manually and have done much better with that.

how do you inject?
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One thing to reduce the dents is to not only rotate the sites, but also rotate around the sites. Try to use four points around each site, a little up, down, right, left. This will reduce the possibility of any damage.
That's the method each should adopt but it didn't matter in my case. I got the dents regardless of my attention to detail regarding the sites (and the areas around them).

I love that some people don't get lipoatrophy - I just wish I was one of them. I'd still be on the drug for sure. :/

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I was extra careful and rotated brilliantly. I used new areas, old areas, shot deep, shot shallow, it didnt matter. the stuff was melting the fat pad right off my thighs and bum. The MD said it was not enough to pull me off the meds because I had no other meds to go to. After a while the side effects of Copaxone caused me to set down the needle. Even with perfect skin I couldnt do it anymore.
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In my nearly 3 years on Copaxone I was about as careful about rotating injection sites as anyone could be. I kept charts going, a page for each part of the body I was using, and on each page I mapped out 4-19 injection areas and wrote the date in the box for the area every time I used it and made sure that the next shot for that body part was nowhere near the previous shot.

I have lipoatrophy dents though. I mainly did manual shots but switched to the autoject for the arms after a couple of years.

Some people get these dents, and some don't, apparently.

I was concerned about running out of places to inject though the lipoatrophy wasn't my reason for stopping Copaxone. I just didn't think it was going to help me. And it was causing some unpleasant bowel problems.
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Fascinating! I never started injecting until 2 weeks ago. I passed up Betaseron for MS when I read about "depression" coming from it. But now I have to inject Intron-A for another disease, Polycythemia Vera, 3 times a week. So far, no pain or dents in my abdomen. Guess it's fat enough to handle it? But I've only done it 2 weeks. I have the INtron-A to cut back number of platelets in my blood; it is not for MS.
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I also have lipoatrophy from Copaxone. Every area of my body where I injected is covered with dents and areas of lightly grayed skin. I religiously rotated my sites, but it didn't seem to matter. After nearly 5 years, you can imagine how my skin looks.

Now that I have quit Copaxone, I'm hoping I don't have to go back on it.
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The only hope for the dents is that usually a few years after stopping the shots the dents do tend to shrink and/or go away.
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