hi tam, havent been here in ages......but this post caught my eye, the side i suspect i have the hypertrophy of the vertabra (commonly referred to as an "extra" rib) i also have drooping on that side of my face, i can still move it, just droops....i suspicion a discrete loss......but this is WITHOUT a real issue with the TOS.....i was also congenitally absent the wisdom tooth in the left upper jaw...so i had assumed some pre birth trauma....who knows?
very interesting....

Narcotic pain drugs contract the pupil.
Stimulants (including adrenaline) dilate it.

People taking opiates typically have what are called pin point pupils, in normal light.

I have never heard of this test. But I do know from my anatomy class that when a sudden pain is felt, the pupils will dilate in normal light.
Dentists use this marker when they are working on you. If you dilate suddenly, they know they are hurting you. (our classes were mixed and we had some dental students).

I think one can take any person into a dark room and watch pupils dilate, then shine a light and that one will constrict. How on earth can a doctor tell who is who, when everyone has this response? Now I could imagine the reverse. If you have pinpoint pupils from your opiate meds, and they DO NOT dilate in the dark, then I can see that happening.

from http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec20/ch225/ch225b.html

I thought the Dr was meaning that she would have had a slower reaction time if she had a proper level of pain meds to control her pain??
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But I have no clue if someone with pain controlled would have a slower pupil reaction than the "average" person..

I am sorry.... "free ranging electricity"?

I am all for explaining things to patients so they can understand.
But this whole thing is rather hinky to me.

If her pupils were unequal in normal light...this would be a concern. If her face was really drooping and that eye did not react normally, this would be a concern. Most people have asymmetric faces, and one side may appear puffier than the other, or droopier or whatever. This does not mean the patient has too much electricity in her system. Just my opinion.

i suspect it was his way of explaining the feed back from the point of damage back into the spinal cord.....this, i think, is the reasoning behind the ear potentially being affected in TOS.....

I didn't pay too much attention to the electricity part .....

But I will admit at times with my RSI it felt like a electrical current was running under my skin... a buzzing sensation - especially in my forearms - it's exactly how I described it to my drs - but they seemed to not take notice of that very much at all.


I wonder also if he is referring to EMF or something ?{ electromagnetic fields}
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...fields&spell=1

I need to read all these post again…kinda confused…it’s the blonde in me. One thing I’m interested in is the electrical current Jo*mar feels. I feel the same thing mostly at night. Sometimes before I go to bed and at times it might wake me but I can’t sleep with it…makes me want to just shake then hoping that will make them stop buzzing!

I haven't had it lately , but when my RSI {repetitive strain injury}was really bad {1999 & again in 03/04} - that was when I felt that electrical sensation in my forearms.

I believe mine was due to extreme muscle tension.
When we got the muscles relaxed that feeling went away...

Many people have that "buzzing" effect... PNers, MSers,
RSDers... it is very common. It does not mean you have excess electricity coursing thru your body.

I can induce this feeling with a simple magnet. (put with the N pole against the skin). The South pole will block pain, very effectively. But the North may cause buzzing.

i've also mentioned this to many doctors. Dr Newkirk completely understood this and told me about it even before I told him. He also said that many with TOS have an itching sensation. I explain it as feeling as though I am using my TENS unit in a mild way. Often the ectrical sensation actually feels like it is pulsing, just as a TENS unit does.

Tam-I'm glad you are doing better. May it continue!