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Old 01-05-2009, 12:32 PM #1
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Default Dissassociation between mind and body

I read somewhere that ''and im not sure i worded it right'' but that you have like a dissassociation between mind and body when my head was bad and i mean real bad this think would happen where it seemed like my brain could not keep ''at times'' with my body movements i would compare it to being on a bad drug where there is a pause at times between what the mind see's the body doing like slow i guess it goes back to Cognitive Function it dont happen anymore any insight on this.....again i'm glad i found this board PCS for the longest time wrecked my life and i had thoughts of stupid stuff of doing something to myself thinking that it would never end compared to the first 3 months its doing much better now only problem is back then it would go away for sometimes a week or so then i would jump back in the ring and set it back and so forth but yeah any insight on the body and mind thing who else has heard of ppl experiencing this?????
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:12 PM #2
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Hi, have a look at my post about tiredness - are you very very tired when the symptons come back or have you been jerking your head around?

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Funny you should mention this. My symptoms have changed recently, and i was saying the same thing. it's like you move your eyes and head, and the mind takes a second to find what you are looking at and process it. Have you found out anything else?
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Funny you should mention this. My symptoms have changed recently, and i was saying the same thing. it's like you move your eyes and head, and the mind takes a second to find what you are looking at and process it. Have you found out anything else?
mije comes and goes for a few weeks it was like consistently man i hated that it was worst part of it it will get better bro
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It takes a little while for me to process information. The more stuff that's going on, the more anxious & overwhelmed I quickly become. That has been consistent for me, for 2 years now. I'll have a day or two (per month) that I feel pretty good. Normal. Once I'm back into chaos - normalcy in the average person - I quickly become depressed.

That's my experience, anyway.
Shez

ETA: Examples of what pushes me hard: more than one person talking at a time (even if it is the TV or music) - I turn it on mute or off. If I can't control all of the talking, I step back and silent. When there's a lot going on (for even a "normal" person), everything takes WAAAAY longer than normal. Weird, because my mind appears blank to me. But it has literally taken over an hour a few times to make simple decisions, and that was pushing myself to decide.

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It takes a little while for me to process information. The more stuff that's going on, the more anxious & overwhelmed I quickly become. That has been consistent for me, for 2 years now. I'll have a day or two (per month) that I feel pretty good. Normal. Once I'm back into chaos - normalcy in the average person - I quickly become depressed.

That's my experience, anyway.
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ETA: Examples of what pushes me hard: more than one person talking at a time (even if it is the TV or music) - I turn it on mute or off. If I can't control all of the talking, I step back and silent. When there's a lot going on (for even a "normal" person), everything takes WAAAAY longer than normal. Weird, because my mind appears blank to me. But it has literally taken over an hour a few times to make simple decisions, and that was pushing myself to decide.
yea i'm so sick of PCS it's not even funny man i mean will this crap ever end i mean lord almighty my brain showed no damage and it's still ongoing yes i have wrestled with it in the ring like a idiot but god almighy that was early November could it have set my symptoms back you guys think??maybe a dumb question but gosh i'm tired of this feeling no headaches just dizzy and sometimes panicky and nausea but man someone say something lol
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Default Hi Tommywrestler

My MRI and CT scan showed no damage as well. The psych testing showed that my IQ was still high and was above average in the other stuff. So accordingly there was nothing wrong with me - yeah right!

The only thing that showed anything up was the QEEG that I went to Australia for. that showed that parts of my brain were hyper and others not really registering. Unfortunately the insurer does not really rate it. It made me feel alot better actually having something to see though.

All I can say to you is to be patient - don't do anything to bang your head let alone shake it about. My injuries were 6 weeks apart and then about 10 months after that my car was rear ended and on and on.

Yes I think wrestling could have been the cause. Note that I am not an expert - just somebody with PCS for 7 years who learned the hard way!

Are you dizzy and nauseous all the time or is it when you are tired and don't realise? One of my medications made me feel dizzy and sick - do you think it could be the cause. Low blood pressure can cause dizziness as well.

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PS - had a lovely week away - but our summer is really hot this year and I can't handle the heat anymore!
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Tommy,

It does suck. Unfortunately, it takes a very long time for the brain to recuperate. From a year to years - survivors slowly regain strength and acceptance. You being a boxer is not good at all for recovery. You may completely receover. A big negative is the fact that those with TBI's are likely to get more TBI's. We get clumsy and often fall. While the first one or two head injuries may seem relatively minimal, they do have a marked effect.

I hope that you do feel better soon! No nausea, panic, and dizziness: it's no fun! Be good to yourself...don't get back into the ring. Have you checked that magazine, written by doctors, called Neurology Now? It's free. You can check them out online, and read past articles. One article regarding recurrent concussions w/ sports (I think they focused on football) was amazing! Please do check out the site. The articles can be informative and enlightening.

http://www.neurologynow.com

Best wishes, take care!
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Tommy,

It does suck. Unfortunately, it takes a very long time for the brain to recuperate. From a year to years - survivors slowly regain strength and acceptance. You being a boxer is not good at all for recovery. You may completely receover. A big negative is the fact that those with TBI's are likely to get more TBI's. We get clumsy and often fall. While the first one or two head injuries may seem relatively minimal, they do have a marked effect.

I hope that you do feel better soon! No nausea, panic, and dizziness: it's no fun! Be good to yourself...don't get back into the ring. Have you checked that magazine, written by doctors, called Neurology Now? It's free. You can check them out online, and read past articles. One article regarding recurrent concussions w/ sports (I think they focused on football) was amazing! Please do check out the site. The articles can be informative and enlightening.

http://www.neurologynow.com

Best wishes, take care!
Shez
well i'm not a boxer but a pro wrestler which is somewhat different i don't take bad head shots repeatedly my experience with PCS is somewhat different i guess i took a shot to the head [which i'm not sure if even that was the shot] i was not knocked out but kept wrestling not really knowing that something in that time frame had messed me up as in continued i studied several things and since my stepmom had PCS she talked to me and our symptoms were just alike,doctors pass it off as nothing since my ct scan showed NO DAMAGE however i read everywhere that it not always showed damage i dont get headaches but i do get nausea and dizziness and man it is awful when it hits it doesn't always hit,i now think im suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as i believe the brain has healed but i cant get over it i relive it alot,im out of the ring now and working on getting better tell me what ya think?
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Hi tommywrestler,

Sorry about my confusion. Not the first time or the last! LOL Okay...have you been working with a neurologist, or general practitioner? Have you seen a therapist to work upon psychological stress? If not, I'd recommend working with a social worker or psychologist with experience in TBI. They can make an assessment of your abilities and determine what the best course of action may be for you.That's my recommendation.

I also agree with the poster above regarding dehydration. Dehydration can cause both of those symptoms that you occasionally experience. Caffeine and alcohol dehydrate the body - so avoid those substances. Or if you do drink them, you're going to have to drink more regular fluids to make up for it. Drink 8-10 glasses of fluids (water, milk, juice) per day. You'll also need to drink more when you work out and sweat. Gatorade, a drink with electrolytes, is needed in those times to prevent dehydration and brain chemistry (primarily sodium levels) to drop low. I have had to go in for IV fluids a few times to prevent brain damage and re-hydrate. I, therefore, often have to push myself to drink up.

Best wishes!
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