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bizi 09-22-2010 09:13 PM

I am so happy for you ginnie!!!!!:)
bizi

bizi 09-25-2010 02:29 PM

I was afraid to get on the scale this morning....I thought I had gained weight back, because I look like I have in my stomach...I have not! I jsut need to go back to the gym and do some crunches again, have not been in at least 2 weeks.
ok...heading to the shower...:rolleyes:

edited to add that I have gained weight...INCHES!!!! so I must be dehydrated......:(

*My shower felt so good to get clean... off to the gym! now!

mymorgy 09-25-2010 05:26 PM

i was rereading some of the Spectrum book by Ornish and getting so angry.
Clinton was interviewed on Cnn and said he lost 24 pounds and is sort of on the diet. Then Ornish and another Doctor was on Cnn and interviewed. I don't know why i am so angry. I am angry partially that I have to take care of myself. It is as if I don't want to take care of myself. I am furious that I am supposed to. I had to give up smoking because of the money not to take care of myself. I don't feel like lengthening my life. I would like to lose weight so I could walk further though. It is a bummer not to be able to walk even a little distance.
bobby

waves 09-25-2010 05:49 PM

Dear Bobby

when i gave up smoking, it wasn't because it was going to kill me - it was because my singing had been impacted more than i could compensate for. i quit so i could have my voice back, not to avoid lung cancer or emphysema. smoking had become an insurmountable obstacle to something that was so much a part of me, and i wanted that part back... (i have always sung, every day, whether full out or just softly to myself).

so, can you just see the diet as just a means to being able to walk more because you want to be able to do that? you don't have to do it "for health or longevity." we keep reminding you how healthy it is, but we can quit harping on that. you can focus on what it is going to get back for you, that you want back - ability to walk more.

love

~ waves ~

Mari 09-25-2010 05:53 PM

Dear Bobby,
Clinton has been talking about his heart healthy diet (mostly vegan, mostly gluten free). He says that he has changed since his heart bypass, the weird complication six months later, and the two stents.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...r-chest-pains/

Quote:

I don't know why i am so angry. I am angry partially that I have to take care of myself. It is as if I don't want to take care of myself. I am furious that I am supposed to.
I can understand the anger Bobby. I wonder if it maybe it is good anger. Have you asked Dr. M. about it?

M.

mymorgy 09-25-2010 06:00 PM

i haven't mentioned it yet to Dr. M because I just started feeling it. What do you mean that it might be good anger? I am also wondering if it has anything to do with sleep deprivation. My sleep has been awful.
bobby

waves 09-25-2010 06:05 PM

a thought
 
Dear Bobby

i just read a post on SOS by david - a poem/thread about the Adult/Child/Parent in each of us... his thoughts kind of clicked with this and i had a thought:

i recall you took care of your parents (esp father) when you were little. even if your physical needs were met, you didn't receive a lot of nurturing, you mostly had to dish it out. you had to be the responsible one, step up to the plate. and now, you have to take care of yourself, more dishing out...

when is it your turn? when do you ever get to step down from the dang plate (no pun intended)? could the anger be related to that, you think? i agree with talking to Dr. M. about it.

love

~ waves ~

waves 09-25-2010 06:08 PM

sleep deprivation can definitely make a person grumpy... irritable... irascible...

Mari 09-25-2010 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mymorgy (Post 698725)
i haven't mentioned it yet to Dr. M because I just started feeling it. What do you mean that it might be good anger? I am also wondering if it has anything to do with sleep deprivation. My sleep has been awful.
bobby

Dear Bobby,
For one thing, I think anger occurs when we move out of depression. I'm trying to remember what my old tdoc said once. I think that he said that my anger was good. It was a sign that I had moved reconsidered / moved on from what was dragging me down in my depression. Anger helps us get to the next place I guess.
I'm not remembering this exactly right.
I do remember that he was happy one day when I came to the appt angry.
M.

Mari 09-25-2010 06:35 PM

Waves,
That sounds about right for me at least.

=-=-=
Anger can be energizing -- can help us move on to our next step emotionally.

M.


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